Want a new mp3 player

[DavidW]

Okay here we go:

Ipod Touch: I only use the various streaming music apps and I've had too many streaming errors.  So I don't use the apps on the touch enough to warrant paying the touch premium.

Zune HD: too much drm, and it is at the same price point as the touch without having as many features, like apps.

Sansa clip+: slowly clicking through 1 album at a time = kills the deal.

Sansa fuze+: only thing I've found wrong with it is some whining about the touch interface

Cowon J3: cowon's battery life and sq are awesome, their features not impressive, their ui is atrocious.  I'm basing this on an old D2, but I don't see that anything has changed.

Ipod classic: this is very tempting only problem is that it is hd based, which in my mind means not as durable

so...

[DavidW]

I've ordered a Sansa fuze+ if the touch control is too much of a hassle to use then I will return it and get an ipod classic.

[Benji]

I've ordered a Sansa fuze+ if the touch control is too much of a hassle to use then I will return it and get an ipod classic.

Should have got the 4gb nano

TYRANNY, TYRANNY I TELLS YA!

[DavidW]

Oh the oppressive tyranny of choice and possessions.   I should abandon my worldly goods and run naked through the woods!!

[drogulus]

Oh the oppressive tyranny of choice and possessions.   I should abandon my worldly goods and run naked through the woods!!

      Which one?

[Benji]

Oh the oppressive tyranny of choice and possessions.   I should abandon my worldly goods and run naked through the woods!!

That's the spirit! 

[karlhenning]

"I'm gonna beat my buh-reast like a ape-man, I don't wanna comb-a my hair . . . ."

[DavidW]

Well the fuze+ really does have issues.  That touch pad is both too sensitive and not sensitive enough.  It basically never does what it should.  If you load it up with music you'll never get what you want because you can tap through one entry at a time or fly so fast through the selection that you can't stop it, because there are several seconds of delay from processing a new touch command.  They really messed up the UI.  Plus and this is the real deal killer, most of my albums won't display their cover art.

List of things that do show the cover art: windows media player, itunes, mp3tag, ipod touch, my old cowon d2 (yeah that's right a three year old mp3 player doesn't struggle with this)... but this player doesn't.  And I couldn't figure it out.  So I have to return it and try a different player.

I also assumed that the reviews whining about the touch pad just never used a touch interface before, but it's not that.  The difference between my ipod touch and the fuze+ is that the former just works (can scroll as fast or as slow as you want, can stop on a dime and has a search function plus quick jump to a letter) and the latter doesn't at all.  If anyone else is thinking about getting a new sansa, get the fuze (no plus) with the scroll wheel instead.

I know that sandisk was trying to make a touch wannabe, but they really should just stick with what works.

[DavidW]

And I didn't even mention the part where you have to scroll left to go right on the menu.  C'mon sandisk you're better than this!!

[Holden]

If my Sansa e280 8 gig were to die today, I would replace it with this:



The e280 has served me very well indeed, and the Fuze does all that and more, including support for FLAC now, so I won't have to convert my archives to MP3 to play them. And the micro-card support (which I also have on the e280) is very handy for either extended travel or for having a library of pictures, for example. The 2 gig micro SD from my Olympus camera pops right into the e280 and allows easier viewing compared to looking at the back of the camera!  No doubt, that would be the one for me!

I also have an e280 and love it. The problem is that I have now used up all of the 8Gb and need a bigger player (like the original creator of this thread). That said it does have an expansion slot for a micro SD card. How big a card could I put in this? The original instructions said 2Gb but that was when that was the biggest SD you could get. So, could I put a 16gb card in the slot? It would certainly solve my problems (and save me some money).

[DavidW]

Well this morning I mailed out to amazon the fuze+.  This afternoon I bought the ipod classic-- and WOW!  I'm impressed.  It has better ui than the touch for music.  I'm talking of course about having a composer sort in the menu.   The scroll wheel is fast and easy to use, and the sound is full, impressive bass with great amp (at least for earphones).  Also music transfer was really fast.  Several times faster than the player I returned.

Anyway since all I want to do is listen to music, I couldn't ask for better.  And since it is hd based, I'll use my little old sansa clip for my walks, and the ipod for everything else.

[Gurn Blanston]

I also have an e280 and love it. The problem is that I have now used up all of the 8Gb and need a bigger player (like the original creator of this thread). That said it does have an expansion slot for a micro SD card. How big a card could I put in this? The original instructions said 2Gb but that was when that was the biggest SD you could get. So, could I put a 16gb card in the slot? It would certainly solve my problems (and save me some money).

Not sure, Holden but have been curious myself. As it happens, I only have a 2 gig card, and without a compelling need I'm not likely to replace it.

Back when updating of computers was an annual event, if an OS and BIOS said 640 megs max memory, it was not because you couldn't put more in, but because that was all that the machine could physically address. Anything more was wasted. Not sure if that's the case here or not.

[DavidW]

I think that only if you rockbox it can you use the higher storage card.  Else only the 2 gig card.

[DavidW]

Oh boy with that plastic dock sleeve that classic is a perfect fit for my ipod speakers!

[RJR]

When I rip (using dBpoweramp), I always rip it as 1 track. Also do that with 3rd-4th movement of the 5th. But even stuff ripped by others plays back without a discernible gap on my Sandisk. I guess it just doesn't bother me...

Don't forget the Pastorale and Schumann's 4th. Some record companies still forget to make sure that these works should be one track only. Annoying.

[Gurn Blanston]

Don't forget the Pastorale and Schumann's 4th. Some record companies still forget to make sure that these works should be one track only. Annoying.

Yes, it IS annoying. For listening purposes, it is as annoying as those 34 track version of the Diabelli Variations! WTF! IMO, 3 tracks is plenty, and even just 1 is adequate.



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[Lethevich]

Does anybody know whether mp3 players nowadays all require specialist bloatware such as iTunes for the iPod just to load music? My old Walkman allows you to treat it as a flash drive and drag and drop using explorer, with no "helpful" software being forced onto you.

Professional reviews aren't proving uniformly helpful, because I don't know whether this has become so ubiquitous that it's being left unsaid.

If it's not affected by the problem, I am leaning towards the Zune, given that it's DRM nonsense has been cracked.

[karlhenning]

Does anybody know whether mp3 players nowadays all require specialist bloatware such as iTunes for the iPod just to load music? My old Walkman allows you to treat it as a flash drive and drag and drop using explorer, with no "helpful" software being forced onto you.

Professional reviews aren't proving uniformly helpful, because I don't know whether this has become so ubiquitous that it's being left unsaid.

If it's not affected by the problem, I am leaning towards the Zune, given that it's DRM nonsense has been cracked.

Not my Sansa player . . . I load just with the aid of Media Monkey right from my PC.

[Opus106]

Not my Sansa player

Yep. I've loaded some songs into a Sansa (maybe a couple of years old), using the drag 'n' drop-in-Explorer method. Indeed, that was the prescribed method.

[Henk]

Purchased another mp3 player. My old Sony can retire.

Bluetooth so I can play through stereo. Ideal solution now I want to go full digital purchasing albums on Bandcamp (or else Itunes).

A bit of a guess buy, based on just one review, but it's cheap.

The brand is Elprico.



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