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Radioman

Thank you all for your warm welcome.  A few more composers who made Canada their home are Czech-born Oskar Morawetz,  Polish-born Harry Freedman,  South African-born Malcolm Forsyth who, I believe is still living.
All of them came to Canada in their late 20s-early thirties and made a definite impression upon the Canadian musical landscape. I have a small number of their works in my collection
JetsNut being from Winnipeg you must be aware of the Winnipeg-born Victor Davies who has a number of works to his credit.  I have a small sampling in my collection including the Mennonite Piano Concerto.

Brahmsian

Quote from: Radioman on June 07, 2011, 04:31:03 PM
JetsNut being from Winnipeg you must be aware of the Winnipeg-born Victor Davies who has a number of works to his credit.  I have a small sampling in my collection including the Mennonite Piano Concerto.

Yes, I'm familiar with Victor Davies.  Unfortunately, I have to say that I find the Mennonite Piano Concerto dreadful, and that is being very kind.  :-X  I guess it's not my cup of tea.  :)

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Quote from: Radioman on June 07, 2011, 04:31:03 PM
Thank you all for your warm welcome.  A few more composers who made Canada their home are Czech-born Oskar Morawetz,  Polish-born Harry Freedman,  South African-born Malcolm Forsyth who, I believe is still living.
All of them came to Canada in their late 20s-early thirties and made a definite impression upon the Canadian musical landscape. I have a small number of their works in my collection
JetsNut being from Winnipeg you must be aware of the Winnipeg-born Victor Davies who has a number of works to his credit.  I have a small sampling in my collection including the Mennonite Piano Concerto.

Malcolm Forsyth is a composer who has flown under my radar quite a few times. I've heard of Harry Freedman, but never heard any of his music. I never heard of Oskar Morawetz. Kudos for your support of Canadian classical music. What do you think of Jean Coulthard or Harry Somers?

Radioman

I completely forgot about Coulthard and Somers,  :-[ probably because I have none of their works in my collection.   The Canadian based Analekta label promotes Canadian composers and artists, and it was from that label I discovered the French-Canadian composer André Matheiu who died tragically young at age 39 in 1968.

Brahmsian

Quote from: Radioman on June 08, 2011, 07:49:19 PM
I completely forgot about Coulthard and Somers,  :-[ probably because I have none of their works in my collection.   The Canadian based Analekta label promotes Canadian composers and artists, and it was from that label I discovered the French-Canadian composer André Matheiu who died tragically young at age 39 in 1968.

The WSO is playing Andre Mathieu's Piano Concerto # 4 in E minor for the 2011/2012 season.  I'm excited to hear it (thought the recording was pretty good).  The WSO program will also include Sibelius' 2nd Symphony.

Radioman


 As I mentioned in my intro I host a classical music show on the radio every Sunday afternoon starting at 1:04 pm Eastern time.  The online link is below.

This is my lineup for this Sunday:

Reid's Records:   Programme   #1303 June 12/2011

1:   Ippolitov-Ivanov: Geogian March.CDI5562
            Naxos 8.553405 (track 8                                   05:27        5:27

2:   Vivaldi: C-major Mandolin Concerto V5.0392 CDR-85
       MHS 1100  (side 1, track 4-5-6)      TR 1-2-3                        08:05   13:32

3:   Schubert: 8th Symphony (Unfinished) 1st mvmnt   CDB4019
           Telarc CD-80091 (track 1)                                                     12:31   26:03

4:   Borodin: Polovstian Dances CDR6109
           DG 419 063-2 (tracks 5-6)                                                        14:05    40:08

5:   Bordin: String Quartet #2, 3rd mvmnt CDF2482
   ASV OS 6110 (track 9)   04:48      44:56

6:   Rimsky-Korsakov: Song of India (Sadko) CDF2482
   ASV OS 6110 (track 10)   03:32   48:28

7:   Saint-Saens:  Marche Militaire Française CDS1739
   Naxos   8.55675   (track 1)   04:56   53:24

8:    Strauss: R Dance of the Seven Veils CDS88527
           Naxos 8.550182 (track 11)                                                 09:45   63:09
   
9:    Strauss: Rosekavelier CDS8527
           Naxos 8.550182 (track 12)                                   12:05   75:14

10:   Boieldieu: Concerto for  Harp and Orchestra CDB7737
   London 425 723-2 (tracks 4-5   13:17   88:31

12:   Gassman: One Madman Makes Many CDG1795
   Naxos 8570421 (tracks 25-26-27)   05:08   93:39

13    Uccelini: Bergamasca & Ario Decimaquinta CDM3688
   Linn CKD321 (disc 1, track 1, disc 2, track 21)   05:32   99:11

NEWS

14::   Smetana: To Our Girls CDS7211
   Supraphon DC8064 (track 1)   04:00   4:00

15:   Khachaturian: Valencian Widow Suite CDK3740
   ASV 85102 (tracks 9-10-11)   12:26   16:26

16:   Verdi:  Il Vespri  Siciliani Overture   CDW2619
   Amadis 7140   (Track 60   09:19   25:45

17:   Grieg: Holberg Suite CDG9470
   EMI 568384 (tracks 8 & 9)   08:40   34:25

17:   Bacarisse: Concertino for Guitar and Orchestra CDR7566
   Concerto Classics OQ0049 (tracks 4 & 5)   13:40   48:05
   
http://www.1069fm.ca/stream1.wax
Sunday afternoon 1:03 P.M.  EST    -5 GMT   

Mirror Image

Quote from: Radioman on June 10, 2011, 05:25:04 PM

 As I mentioned in my intro I host a classical music show on the radio every Sunday afternoon starting at 1:04 pm Eastern time.  The online link is below.

This is my lineup for this Sunday:

Reid's Records:   Programme   #1303 June 12/2011

1:   Ippolitov-Ivanov: Geogian March.CDI5562
            Naxos 8.553405 (track 8                                   05:27        5:27

2:   Vivaldi: C-major Mandolin Concerto V5.0392 CDR-85
       MHS 1100  (side 1, track 4-5-6)      TR 1-2-3                        08:05   13:32

3:   Schubert: 8th Symphony (Unfinished) 1st mvmnt   CDB4019
           Telarc CD-80091 (track 1)                                                     12:31   26:03

4:   Borodin: Polovstian Dances CDR6109
           DG 419 063-2 (tracks 5-6)                                                        14:05    40:08

5:   Bordin: String Quartet #2, 3rd mvmnt CDF2482
   ASV OS 6110 (track 9)   04:48      44:56

6:   Rimsky-Korsakov: Song of India (Sadko) CDF2482
   ASV OS 6110 (track 10)   03:32   48:28

7:   Saint-Saens:  Marche Militaire Française CDS1739
   Naxos   8.55675   (track 1)   04:56   53:24

8:    Strauss: R Dance of the Seven Veils CDS88527
           Naxos 8.550182 (track 11)                                                 09:45   63:09
   
9:    Strauss: Rosekavelier CDS8527
           Naxos 8.550182 (track 12)                                   12:05   75:14

10:   Boieldieu: Concerto for  Harp and Orchestra CDB7737
   London 425 723-2 (tracks 4-5   13:17   88:31

12:   Gassman: One Madman Makes Many CDG1795
   Naxos 8570421 (tracks 25-26-27)   05:08   93:39

13    Uccelini: Bergamasca & Ario Decimaquinta CDM3688
   Linn CKD321 (disc 1, track 1, disc 2, track 21)   05:32   99:11

NEWS

14::   Smetana: To Our Girls CDS7211
   Supraphon DC8064 (track 1)   04:00   4:00

15:   Khachaturian: Valencian Widow Suite CDK3740
   ASV 85102 (tracks 9-10-11)   12:26   16:26

16:   Verdi:  Il Vespri  Siciliani Overture   CDW2619
   Amadis 7140   (Track 60   09:19   25:45

17:   Grieg: Holberg Suite CDG9470
   EMI 568384 (tracks 8 & 9)   08:40   34:25

17:   Bacarisse: Concertino for Guitar and Orchestra CDR7566
   Concerto Classics OQ0049 (tracks 4 & 5)   13:40   48:05
   
http://www.1069fm.ca/stream1.wax
Sunday afternoon 1:03 P.M.  EST    -5 GMT

Looks like a pretty conservative list, Radioman. You don't play much music from the 20th Century.

Radioman

Quite right: mine is programme of classical music for people who don't like classical music.  What I play is pretty well a reflection of what my audience likes, and after 28 years of doing it I think I've got it right.  My 20th century music I play at home.

It's definitely not for the more sophisticated audience which is why I paused before even posting my list in this forum.

Mirror Image

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Quote from: Radioman on June 10, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
Quite right: mine is programme of classical music for people who don't like classical music.  What I play is pretty well a reflection of what my audience likes, and after 28 years of doing it I think I've got it right.  My 20th century music I play at home.

It's definitely not for the more sophisticated audience which is why I paused before even posting my list in this forum.

But how do you know they won't like the music if you don't play it? Classical music is all about exposure. If don't expose your audience to 20th Century music, aren't you depriving them of music that they might enjoy?

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 11, 2011, 06:57:37 AM
But how do you know they won't like the music if you don't play it? Classical music is all about exposure. If don't expose your audience to 20th Century music, aren't you depriving them of music that they might enjoy?

If such a demand existed, then there is no doubt that people would have made it known. The fact that he has a steady audience speaks for itself. Also, it is NOT incumbent upon him to introduce people to new music. If he can arouse interest in standards, he has done more than enough of his share for music. If people want to pursue things further, there is nothing holding them back other than laziness. I am personally delighted to have him as a member, whether his list and mine are even slightly congruent (I haven't read his yet). Anyway, how many people have YOU exposed to 20th century music. You should start your own streaming radio station. :)

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Gurn Blanston


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1:   Ippolitov-Ivanov: Geogian March.CDI5562

7:   Saint-Saens:  Marche Militaire Française CDS1739
   Naxos   8.55675   (track 1)   04:56   53:24

10:   Boieldieu: Concerto for  Harp and Orchestra CDB7737
   London 425 723-2 (tracks 4-5   13:17   88:31

12:   Gassman: One Madman Makes Many CDG1795
   Naxos 8570421 (tracks 25-26-27)   05:08   93:39

13    Uccelini: Bergamasca & Ario Decimaquinta CDM3688
   Linn CKD321 (disc 1, track 1, disc 2, track 21)   05:32   99:11

14::   Smetana: To Our Girls CDS7211
   Supraphon DC8064 (track 1)   04:00   4:00

15:   Khachaturian: Valencian Widow Suite CDK3740
   ASV 85102 (tracks 9-10-11)   12:26   16:26

16:   Verdi:  Il Vespri  Siciliani Overture   CDW2619
   Amadis 7140   (Track 60   09:19   25:45

17:   Bacarisse: Concertino for Guitar and Orchestra CDR7566
   Concerto Classics OQ0049 (tracks 4 & 5)   13:40   48:05

Not to extend this conversation beyond its necessary limitations, but the works I cut out of the list above are certainly not commonplace. I know who Gassmann is, for example (thousands don't), but I never heard that work. As for the others, I know them all, but the works themselves are anything but commonly heard. I even note some 20th century  stuff having crept in. I think criticism of this list is totally unjustified. In fact, I would happily listen to this programme myself. :)

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DavidW

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on June 11, 2011, 07:42:15 AM
In fact, I would happily listen to this programme myself. :)

Well you can tomorrow, by clicking on the link.  If I'm still working on my prep work tomorrow, I'll click on that link kick back and enjoy! 8)

Radioman

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 11, 2011, 06:57:37 AM
But how do you know they won't like the music if you don't play it? Classical music is all about exposure. If don't expose your audience to 20th Century music, aren't you depriving them of music that they might enjoy?

Actually I do know they don't like it because they have told me so.  I guess my audience is special in a way in that they let me know what's "good" and what isn't.  Emails and phone calls are a constant between us.  I have had lunch with them,  and I even visited one of my online listeners in Israel, who happens  also to my harshest critic whenever the need arises. One listener in Washington DC often takes me to task for not playing enough chamber music and another in Montreal for not playing more opera.

As hokey as it may sound,  my audience and I are like a family with ongoing interaction that keeps me striving to keep up with them.

Brahmsian

Stay the course, Radioman.  Stay the course!  8) Who can possibly blame you for playing what your audience wants to hear?  Kudos to you, I say.

bhodges

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on June 11, 2011, 07:42:15 AM
Not to extend this conversation beyond its necessary limitations, but the works I cut out of the list above are certainly not commonplace. I know who Gassmann is, for example (thousands don't), but I never heard that work. As for the others, I know them all, but the works themselves are anything but commonly heard. I even note some 20th century  stuff having crept in. I think criticism of this list is totally unjustified. In fact, I would happily listen to this programme myself. :)

8)

Yes, I agree - an interesting program, with some composers I've not heard of (like Gassmann, Uccelini and Bacarisse) and some unusual selections by others (e.g.,  Khachaturian's Valencian Widow Suite ). I mean, the program could be nothing but the "three B's" and instead, it looks like you've chosen a nice mix of familiar and off-the-radar fare.

--Bruce

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Quote from: Radioman on June 11, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
Actually I do know they don't like it because they have told me so.  I guess my audience is special in a way in that they let me know what's "good" and what isn't.  Emails and phone calls are a constant between us.  I have had lunch with them,  and I even visited one of my online listeners in Israel, who happens  also to my harshest critic whenever the need arises. One listener in Washington DC often takes me to task for not playing enough chamber music and another in Montreal for not playing more opera.

As hokey as it may sound,  my audience and I are like a family with ongoing interaction that keeps me striving to keep up with them.

You must have a bunch of conservatives up there who don't know good music when they hear it. ;) Anyway, I can understand why you play what you play now that you've explained a bit more, but there's still apart of me that simply doesn't understand. Like, for example, since you keep in contact with your listeners, I don't understand why you don't help guide them into music of the 20th Century? Obviously, on paper it sounds easy, but your listeners should be more open-minded. I bet if one your listener's heard Vaughan Williams' Symphony No. 5 they would probably enjoy it. It doesn't demand a lot from the listener. I think the biggest problem with the people who follow radio programs like yours is they only see music in black and white. They also seem like they expect the music to be handed to them. They don't want to have to put any effort into getting to know the music. This is just my personal opinion from listening to radio programs on NPR and my own local station. I seldom listen to radio anymore anyway. The radio programs quit taking risks and this is where I made my departure.

The 20th Century has something for every listener and I think a person in your position should try and explain this to them.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 11, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
Just highlighting irony.

There isn't any irony to be highlighted. How many people do you know, Philoctetes, like myself, who claim they enjoy contemporary music? There aren't many of us here. This, within itself, should be cause enough to celebrate I think.

Coco

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 11, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
I think the biggest problem with the people who follow radio programs like yours is they only see music in black and white.

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 11, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
Just highlighting irony.

Well played. :D

Mirror Image

Quote from: Leon on June 11, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
Get your own radio show.

8)

Nah, if people are as conservative as Radioman's audience, then I wouldn't get any airtime anyway. :)

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Quote from: Coco on June 11, 2011, 08:32:45 PM
Well played. :D

[In mocking voice] Well played. ::) Do you really not have any kind of comments to make other than to be somebody's toadie?