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madaboutmahler

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 29, 2011, 11:44:55 AM
Gustav Mahler
Symphony No.6
Berliner Philharmoniker
Herbert von Karajan



:)
I need some Mahler now...
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Karl Henning

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
Interesting.... may I ask why?

You may, indeed, though I am not sure I know the answer (why do I prefer blueberries to raspberries?)

I played in the orchestra for a performance of the Piano Concerto, decades ago, pretty much enjoyed it, though the piece didn't wow! me at all.  For whatever passel of reasons, the Cello Concerto comes closer to a wow! factor
: )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 11:48:41 AM
:)
I need some Mahler now...

Seeing Mahler is enough for you to listen to his music ;D

Amazing though, which work?
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

madaboutmahler

Quote from: karlhenning on November 29, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
You may, indeed, though I am not sure I know the answer (why do I prefer blueberries to raspberries?)

I played in the orchestra for a performance of the Piano Concerto, decades ago, pretty much enjoyed it, though the piece didn't wow! me at all.  For whatever passel of reasons, the Cello Concerto comes closer to a wow! factor
: )

Thank you for the reply, Karl. Very interesting view indeed. The piano concerto really grabs me, such beautiful melodies for a start. The main theme of the first movement for starters, then that absolutely beautiful second melody in the cellos in the slow movement. It's a perfect piece to me! :)

Quote from: karlhenning on November 29, 2011, 11:52:37 AM
Interesting.... may I ask why? ; )
;D
To transport me to a world far more beautiful and wonderful than what we live in.... When I listen to Mahler, I bring all the happy thoughts from the real world, leave the lesser ones behind, and arrive in a place so heavenly and divine.... I do not get this with all composers, really just Mahler that I have such a massive connection with... why I feel so offended and angry when people insult or joke about him.
I would go on, but I better get to that Mahler quickly!

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 29, 2011, 11:58:22 AM
Seeing Mahler is enough for you to listen to his music ;D

Amazing though, which work?

Certainly, Ilaria! :D
hmmm.... I'll probably go for the first movement from no.7. The Tilson Thomas Proms performance on youtube, which is my favourite at the moment. :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
To transport me to a world far more beautiful and wonderful than what we live in.... When I listen to Mahler, I bring all the happy thoughts from the real world, leave the lesser ones behind, and arrive in a place so heavenly and divine.... I do not get this with all composers, really just Mahler that I have such a massive connection with... why I feel so offended and angry when people insult or joke about him.
I would go on, but I better get to that Mahler quickly!

:)

That is exactly what I feel when I listen to Wagner.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Karl Henning

That is exactly what I feel when I listen to Chopin.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mirror Image

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
To transport me to a world far more beautiful and wonderful than what we live in.... When I listen to Mahler, I bring all the happy thoughts from the real world, leave the lesser ones behind, and arrive in a place so heavenly and divine.... I do not get this with all composers, really just Mahler that I have such a massive connection with... why I feel so offended and angry when people insult or joke about him.

I would go on, but I better get to that Mahler quickly!

This is how I feel when I listen to Koechlin, but it doesn't bother me that people don't like his music. I'm content with knowing that his music only appeals to a small niche of people.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot


Karl Henning

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 29, 2011, 12:25:22 PM
I'm content with knowing that his music only appeals to a small niche of people.

That's all wrong. (Or worse, it's just snobbish; and you must admit, it's a bit perverse to be a Koechlin snob.)  I expect you don't really mean it in quite that way, and that you wish to reconsider the nature of your contentment.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 29, 2011, 12:25:22 PM
This is how I feel when I listen to Koechlin, but it doesn't bother me that people don't like his music. I'm content with knowing that his music only appeals to a small niche of people.
I always get very angry when people insult Mahler... I am known to storm out of the room when someone insults Mahler, and then never speak to them again. Also, in the music classrooms at school, I write nice essays about how Mahler is so amazing on the whiteboards - only for my efforts to recieve the comment 'get a life' from a fellow student. I don't really care what they think. Who are they to insult Mahler anyway?! Not many people understand how special Mahler is for me. :)

Quote from: karlhenning on November 29, 2011, 12:32:54 PM
(and you must admit, it's a bit perverse to be a Koechlin snob.) 
You do make me laugh, Karl! :D
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Mirror Image

Quote from: karlhenning on November 29, 2011, 12:32:54 PM
That's all wrong. (Or worse, it's just snobbish; and you must admit, it's a bit perverse to be a Koechlin snob.)  I expect you don't really mean it in quite that way, and that you wish to reconsider the nature of your contentment.

A Koechlin snob? I don't think so. Shooting your mouth off again, Karl? In any event, I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else.

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: karlhenning on November 29, 2011, 12:24:04 PM
That is exactly what I feel when I listen to Chopin.

Fryderyk Chopin? That's amazing :)
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Mirror Image

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 12:36:50 PMI always get very angry when people insult Mahler... I am known to storm out of the room when someone insults Mahler, and then never speak to them again. Also, in the music classrooms at school, I write nice essays about how Mahler is so amazing on the whiteboards - only for my efforts to recieve the comment 'get a life' from a fellow student. I don't really care what they think. Who are they to insult Mahler anyway?! Not many people understand how special Mahler is for me. :)

I don't really care much for Mahler, but that's about all I'll say. I try not to take insults against Koechlin personally because I know there are people out there that may not like his music or, in most cases, even know who he is ;), but it shouldn't bother me and doesn't now.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 29, 2011, 12:43:40 PM
Fryderyk Chopin? That's amazing :)
I love Chopin - such wonderful, beautiful music.
Oscar Wilde once said "When I play Chopin, I weep over sins I never committed". (quote adapted) You can really understand what he means, can't you?! :)
I think everyone has to love Chopin - well, maybe not John....

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 29, 2011, 12:44:58 PM
I don't really care much for Mahler

Just as we were beggining to be more optimistic about your thoughts on Mahler, you have let us down.... :( I thought you were beggining to enjoy Mahler more?! Will reply to your message tommorow John, thank you for it. :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Mirror Image

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 12:48:09 PMJust as we were beggining to be more optimistic about your thoughts on Mahler, you have let us down.... :( I thought you were beggining to enjoy Mahler more?! Will reply to your message tommorow John, thank you for it. :)

Yeah, I was beginning a Mahler revisitation, but it only lasted a few days I'm afraid. Don't worry, I plan to keep trying with Mahler, but he falls in the category of Holmboe and Weinberg for me right now. These are composers I don't necessarily dislike, but ones that I'm having a hard time coming to terms with.

Mirror Image


Lisztianwagner

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 29, 2011, 12:48:09 PM
I love Chopin - such wonderful, beautiful music.
Oscar Wilde once said "When I play Chopin, I weep over sins I never committed". (quote adapted) You can really understand what he means, can't you?! :)

Absolutely :)
Certainly agree, Chopin's music is incredibly passionate, intense and poetical.
Instead Liszt said: "Music was his language, the divine tongue through which he expressed a whole realm of sentiments that only the select few can appreciate" (quote adapted).

"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 29, 2011, 12:51:51 PM
Yeah, I was beginning a Mahler revisitation, but it only lasted a few days I'm afraid. Don't worry, I plan to keep trying with Mahler, but he falls in the category of Holmboe and Weinberg for me right now. These are composers I don't necessarily dislike, but ones that I'm having a hard time coming to terms with.

That's good to hear. We all have composers that we find hard to come to terms with. Do keep trying with Mahler, John. :)

Talking of Mahler ( :) ) , am now listening to:
Tilson Thomas conducting Mahler 7 with the SFO in their Proms performance. Love this performance, my favourite.

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 29, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
Absolutely :)
Certainly agree, Chopin's music is incredibly passionate, intense and poetical.
Instead Liszt said: "Music was his language, the divine tongue through which he expressed a whole realm of sentiments that only the select few can appreciate" (quote adapted).

:)
Great quote - all of Chopin's music seems perfect, to me at least! :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven