The Snowshoed Sibelius

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Elgarian

Blimey.

Can anyone get the video to play?

J.Z. Herrenberg

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North Star

Cool stuff, pity it wasn't a whole symphony. In the interview, Timo Virtanen says that it's estimated to be from the end of 1920s or the 1930s.
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DavidRoss

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Dundonnell

BBC4 tonight carried a performance of "Kullervo" with the London Symphony Orchestra under Sir Colin Davis.

Well worth catching up with on BBC IPlayer if you are in the UK. Davis is, of course, a superb Sibelian :)

I have always loved "Kullervo" for its sweep and passion and could never understand Sibelius's own apparent disdain for this work of his relative youth, especially given that he penned some pretty ordinary, actually pretty banal, choral music in later life.

Cato

The November 25th Wall Street Journal has an article about unfinished artworks called The Romance of Unfulfillment by Terry Teachout.

It contains a link to a Finnish performance of what might be sketches of the destroyed Eighth Symphony.

http://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/Soiko%20HSfin%20videolla%20Sibeliuksen%20kadonnut%20sinfonia/a1305548269034

For the article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203611404577046104131124334.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_Lifestyle_5
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Karl Henning

Nice timing . . . my mp3 player just shuffled onto Night Ride & Sunrise, Op.55 played by the LSO led by Antal Doráti.

The Segerstam/Helsinki Phil is another beauty of a performance . . . must load that one up, too, at some point . . . .
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snyprrr

Salonen conducting Sibelius 4 on YouTube:

NIIICE!! Salonen's granitic and slightly 'evil' facade as his hands sweep out the tempo,... NIIICE!!

Karl Henning

Quote from: snyprrr on November 30, 2011, 07:53:50 AM
Salonen conducting Sibelius 4 on YouTube:

What, not even a link? . . .
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DavidRoss

Quote from: karlhenning on November 30, 2011, 09:14:37 AM
What, not even a link? . . .
http://www.youtube.com/v/60PGX0RzUvU

IIRC, youtube has Salonen conducting the SRSO in most if not all the symphonies.
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Karl Henning

#1030
Thanks, Dave!

EDIT :: And very nice.
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Brian

I finally found a Sibelius Second that's propulsive enough and hard-driving enough to satisfy me. Szell/NYPO, a live radio broadcast on Naxos Music Library, clocking in at 39:56... finally an account with the momentum and inevitability I was looking for. A pity about the mono radio sound though.

Does anybody know of a stereo account that's similarly bracing in its pulse?

jlaurson

Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
I finally found a Sibelius Second that's propulsive enough and hard-driving enough to satisfy me. Szell/NYPO, a live radio broadcast on Naxos Music Library, clocking in at 39:56... finally an account with the momentum and inevitability I was looking for. A pity about the mono radio sound though.

Does anybody know of a stereo account that's similarly bracing in its pulse?

If you respond to Sibelius like that, I urge you NEVER to get into porn.

Brian

Quote from: jlaurson on December 11, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
If you respond to Sibelius like that, I urge you NEVER to get into porn.

Hah!

Perversely, as Sarge will tell you, my taste in Sib 2 is for 'extremely fast' while my taste for Sib 5/6 is 'extremely slow.' Something about the inertia and faux-pastorality of the Second's first movement, as it is usually played, got me wondering a long time ago what the movement would sound like if it were played with the neoclassical coolness and briskness of the Third Symphony, and that curiosity has yet to abate. For some reason no performers seem keen to see it in that cooler but more volatile light.

Sergeant Rock

#1034
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
I finally found a Sibelius Second that's propulsive enough and hard-driving enough to satisfy me. Szell/NYPO, a live radio broadcast on Naxos Music Library, clocking in at 39:56... finally an account with the momentum and inevitability I was looking for. A pity about the mono radio sound though.

Does anybody know of a stereo account that's similarly bracing in its pulse?

The other Szell recordings are a bit slower but they do have drive, momentum and inevitability. Check out Järvi, too, whose last movement is particularly bracing.


                                                                     I          II     III       IV         TOTAL
Szell with the Cleveland, live from Toyko   9:17  12:53  5:52  14:18     42:20
Szell with the Concertgebouw                   9:24  12:40  5:45  13:41     41:30
Jarvi Gothenburg                                        8:48  13:54  5:57  12:59     41:38


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eyeresist

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on December 12, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
                                            I          II     III       IV         TOTAL
Szell with the Cleveland, live from Toyko   9:17  12:53  5:52  14:18     42:20
Szell with the Concertgebouw                   9:24  12:40  5:45  13:41     41:30
Jarvi Gothenburg                                        8:48  13:54  5:57  12:59     41:38

Berglund (Helsinki cycle): 8:53, 12:43, 5:50, 12:25  = 39:51

Brian

Quote from: eyeresist on December 14, 2011, 08:22:40 PM
Berglund (Helsinki cycle): 8:53, 12:43, 5:50, 12:25  = 39:51

And I'd love it, only my disc is defective and stops in the final coda :(

eyeresist

Quote from: Brian on December 14, 2011, 09:21:26 PM
And I'd love it, only my disc is defective and stops in the final coda :(

Very sorry to hear that, though I'm sure you can "remedy" the situation *nudge nudge*
Berglund's is my favourite recording, and I don't think it's especially fast - it's just that everyone else is too slow.

jlaurson

January 4, 2011 - The Swedish label BIS Records is set to release the first recording of the Minnesota Orchestra's Sibelius symphonies series, featuring the Finnish composer's stirring Second and Fifth Symphonies. Conducting the recording is Music Director Osmo Vänskä, whose Sibelius interpretations have earned international acclaim.  The disc, the newest chapter of the highly-praised collaboration between BIS, Mr. Vänskä and the Minnesota Orchestra, is available starting January 13 through the Orchestra's website, minnesotaorchestra.org.  It will also be available in stores and as a download on major online music sites.