One Maiden Composer - One Recording

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Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 28, 2012, 09:36:29 AM
Are you? Inquiring minds.... :)

8)

Actually, no, but I am listening to some chamber music: Shostakovich Piano Quintet. 8)

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Quote from: North Star on March 28, 2012, 09:41:43 AM
You have, on several occasions, said that you don't listen to much solo piano music. I remember that Prokofiev's piano music didn't interest you much. If you listen to more solo piano and chamber music than you let on, good for you. But it would make it even more baffling to recommend that 2-disc set instead of the 5-disc set I recommended earlier in this thread.
I do recall that you like Ravel's piano trio, now that I think about it.

Sounds like you just can't accept other people's recommendations. Not everybody wants to dive into a 5-CD set of Janacek's music regardless of the cost. I was, more or less, trying to recommend Mackerras' Sinfonietta and Taras Bulba performances and since the original is out-of-print, I recommended something that had those performances and that is a budget release without overloading the OP with an onslaught of works that he/she may not want to hear. Anyway, be baffled, it's okay, most people are baffled by other people's opinions all the time. :)

As for chamber music/solo piano music, I do like some of it. I do like a lot of chamber music, in particular, Debussy, Ravel, Poulenc, Shostakovich, Bartok, Villa-Lobos, RVW, etc.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot


Papy Oli

I'll just jump in to clarify what I meant in my initial request. Be it from my perspective or I trust, any GMGer's or classical beginner's for that matter, if you have no knowledge (or hardly) of a given composer, I doubt you would pull the trigger on a complete works of that particular composer and would like instead to tip-toe into it. For instance, I don't think you would  recommend a full Mahler or Haydn symphony cycle to someone who has never heard either composer.

However, in my particular case, this doesn't mean I completely rule out boxsets if such recommendations are of the budget kind and make sense by their artistic value as well (in your own judgement). e.g. A Honegger twofer for the whole symphonies would make more sense than just 1CD in his specific case.  The Janacek 5-CD set would probably be at the acceptable limit of what I had in mind in my 1st post.  I doubt I would look at bigger boxset sizes than that for any composer I have mentioned. The Alban Berg Collection (8-CD) might be be overkill to start with.

Does that make sense ?  ;D


Olivier

Papy Oli

oh and thank you for the new recs  8)

If you have any maiden composers of your own, please post them and 'll add them to the initial list with a mention of the GMGer who raised the request.
Olivier

North Star

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Quote from: Mirror Image on March 28, 2012, 09:48:22 AM
Sounds like you just can't accept other people's recommendations. Not everybody wants to dive into a 5-CD set of Janacek's music regardless of the cost. I was, more or less, trying to recommend Mackerras' Sinfonietta and Taras Bulba performances and since the original is out-of-print, I recommended something that had those performances and that is a budget release without overloading the OP with an onslaught of works that he/she may not want to hear. Anyway, be baffled, it's okay, most people are baffled by other people's opinions all the time. :)

As for chamber music/solo piano music, I do like some of it. I do like a lot of chamber music, in particular, Debussy, Ravel, Poulenc, Shostakovich, Bartok, Villa-Lobos, RVW, etc.

It's not that I can't accept your recommendation, John. On the contrary, I agree with it, but I also think that the rest of the music in the bigger box is at least as important, and I just wanted to express my opinion. Well, if Papy gets the 2-disc set, he'll soon get the chamber music and solo piano, if he likes Janacek.

I did kind of guess you made up the Szymanovski...

And Papy, the EMI 20th century box should work for you, too - check it out (previous page)
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Quote from: Mirror Image on March 28, 2012, 09:42:50 AM
Actually, no, but I am listening to some chamber music: Shostakovich Piano Quintet. 8)

That's a way better choice, IMO. I love that work.  :)

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Papy Oli

Quote from: North Star on March 28, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
And Papy, the EMI 20th century box should work for you, too - check it out (previous page)

Had a look at the contents and I already have around half of the works in my collection. The remaining half looks very interesting indeed but that would be too many duplications overall.
Olivier

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 28, 2012, 09:23:43 AM
No, but what does one recording mean to you?

Papy specifically said, in his original post, that budget box sets were acceptable. Why is there even a need to discuss this? It would be nice if you could just say, "Oops, I missed that" and then apologize to the members you criticized who were simply, and correctly, following the OP's instructions. If you did that, you'd be a mensch and people would respect you. Hell, they might even love you  ;D :)

Sarge 
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Papy Oli on March 28, 2012, 10:35:03 AM
Had a look at the contents and I already have around half of the works in my collection. The remaining half looks very interesting indeed but that would be too many duplications overall.

Yes, a great set, but certainly targeted at someone just starting out from absolute scratch.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 28, 2012, 10:37:33 AM
Papy specifically said, in his original post, that budget box sets were acceptable. Why is there even a need to discuss this? It would be nice if you could just say, "Oops, I missed that" and then apologize to the members you criticized who were simply, and correctly, following the OP's instructions. If you did that, you'd be a mensch and people would respect you. Hell, they might even love you  ;D :)

Sarge

I, too, was following what the OP wrote. He said one recording and so I did my best to keep box sets out of the mix. I'm sorry if I caused any confusion, but the OP should be more clear in what they wanted. You can't say list only one recording and then turn around and say box sets are okay. I read it like this and it made me question "Well which one is it?"

Papy Oli

In the fuzzy mind of the OP, the "one recording only" was to prevent to have, say, 3 different Stravinsky recommendations in the same post therefore "forcing" the helpful contributor to narrow down their recommendation to one only per composer - it was not meant to be taken as "1CD only". The OP would like to apologize unreservedly to the community for the confusion created at the onset of this thread  ;D  :-*

Olivier

Papy Oli

I have sampled a few recordings off this thread already.... some Magnard, Fux, Britten, Bartok SQ, Honegger, Suk, Alwyn, Piazzolla, Lully, Roussel went into the basket/wishlist already (joining the Janacek).

I am not ready just yet for Boulez, Xenakis, Ligeti, Wagner, Berg  :-\
Olivier

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Quote from: Papy Oli on March 28, 2012, 01:27:48 PM
In the fuzzy mind of the OP, the "one recording only" was to prevent to have, say, 3 different Stravinsky recommendations in the same post therefore "forcing" the helpful contributor to narrow down their recommendation to one only per composer - it was not meant to be taken as "1CD only". The OP would like to apologize unreservedly to the community for the confusion created at the onset of this thread  ;D  :-*

No problem. I will give you more recommendations then since box sets are allowed.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Papy Oli on March 28, 2012, 01:34:24 PM
I have sampled a few recordings off this thread already.... some Magnard, Fux, Britten, Bartok SQ, Honegger, Suk, Alwyn, Piazzolla, Lully, Roussel went into the basket/wishlist already (joining the Janacek).

I hope my Glazunov and Novak recommendations will join that list at some point! :D
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Papy Oli

Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 29, 2012, 09:40:06 AM
I hope my Glazunov and Novak recommendations will join that list at some point! :D

maybe later  ;)

....else beware Glazunov's trowel and Novak's spanner ?  :P  ;D
Olivier

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Papy Oli on March 29, 2012, 10:14:42 AM
maybe later  ;)

....else beware Glazunov's trowel and Novak's spanner ?  :P  ;D

haha ;D

Ok, well, I hope you enjoy them once you listen to them.
Concerning the Novak, you can actually listen to all the works on the disc on youtube if you want to listen  before purchasing.
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

snyprrr

Quote from: Papy Oli on March 27, 2012, 12:45:55 PM

AHO Symphonies 5&7/Ondine
ALKAN... that one piano thing
ALWYN Chandos disc with 'Lyra Angelicus'(sic)
ARNOLD last symphonies EMI
BANTOCK ask Vanderdunnell
BARTOK- Reiner/RCA
BAX ask Vanderdunnell
BERG- DG Box
BOULEZ- Sur incises
BRAGA SANTOS ask Vanderdunnell
BRIDGE- Piano Trio 2/Hyperion
BRITTEN- String Quartet 3/ASV
BUTTERWORTH- NIMBUS, with Parry & Finzi
BUXTEHUDE
C.P.E. BACH
CANTELOUBE
CARTER- DG 21/20
CASELLA- Naxos
CORELLI
COUPERIN (François).
COUPERIN (Louis).
D'INDY String Quartets/Calliope
DALLAPICOLLA- Eotvos/Apex
DUTILLEUX- 2 Symphonies/Chandos
FROBERGER
FUX
GINASTERA- 2 Cello Concertos
GLAZUNOV XXX
HINDEMITH- Schmidt-Isserstedt/EMI
HOLMBOE- Syms. 8/9 BIS
HONNEGER- Karajan DG
IVES- Ozawa/MTT DG
JANACEK- Decca Box
KODALY- Decca Box
LAANGARD the one cd everyone recommends
LIGETI- Complete Set
LULLY
MAGNARD- The Set
MEDTNER- Piano Concerto/Piano Quintet Hyperion
MOERAN- Symphony Chandos
NORGARD- Symphony 3
NOVAK Piano Quintet ASV
PIAZZOLA
PIERNE Erato Set
PROKOFIEV Romeo & Juliet DG
PURCELL
REVUELTAS- RCA Set
RIHM 4 Concertos/Hanssler
ROUSSEL Syms. 3-4+/Jarvi Chandos
SALLINEN 2/6...or 4/5 BIS
STOCKHAUSEN- Klav... ask James
STRAVINSKY- Symphonies CBS
SUK- Asreal Symphony
SWEELINCK
SZYMANOWSKI Violin Concertos 1-2
TIPPETT- Piano Concerto/Triple Concerto NIMBUS
TOCH- Piano Quintet/ Naxos
TUBIN 8/9
VASKS XXX
WAGNER T&I Bohm DG
WEBERN- DG Box
XENAKIS- Timpani Box
ZEMLINSKY- String Quartets


Thank you  ;D

Papy Oli

Thanks Snypprrrrrrr and James for the recommendations.

James, haven't you posted those same recs earlier on and deleted them ?  ??? ...because I did sample Boulez and Stockhausen first time round.... not sure what to make of them...  ;D
Olivier