Composers who are entering the pantheon/standard repertoire

Started by kyjo, October 23, 2013, 02:22:12 PM

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kyjo

I was just wondering who members think are previously "unsung" composers who recently have or are in the process of entering the pantheon of the greats or are featuring more frequently on concert programs.

One of the foremost of these is, deservedly, Szymanowski. There was hardly any interest in his music before Rattle came onto the scene and produced marvelous recordings of most of his orchestral works. There are two ongoing series of Szymanowski's orchestral music: Gergiev/LSO on LSO Live, and Gardner/BBC SO on Chandos. My point is further evidenced by the fact that two major artists who usually stick to the core repertoire, Boulez and Teltzaff, recorded some Szymanowski on a major label (DG). His VC 1 is now being performed by world-class violinists and features comparatively frequently on concert programs. I'm sure his other works will follow VC 1's lead, examining current trends.

Do you guys agree with me about Szymanowski? What are some other composers you feel are entering the pantheon? 

Archaic Torso of Apollo

I don't know about "entering the pantheon" but I've noticed some upticks.

Among more recent composers, Lutoslawski, Ligeti, Messiaen and Schnittke seem to be holding steady, and even increasing their performances. Ligeti's piano etudes in particular are almost standard rep now.

Martinu is getting played more, and recorded more too, than he was only a couple of decades ago.

Also, this may just be a regional thing, but I've noticed that British composers are getting a lot more exposure in the US than they used to. (I'm hearing Walton Sym. #1 this Saturday in fact.)
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"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Velimir on October 23, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
Also, this may just be a regional thing, but I've noticed that British composers are getting a lot more exposure in the US than they used to. (I'm hearing Walton Sym. #1 this Saturday in fact.)

The Elgar First is being performed in Ludwigshafen next week by the Staatsphilharmonie Rheinland-Pfalz!  :o

Sarge
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"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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kyjo

Quote from: Velimir on October 23, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
Martinu is getting played more, and recorded more too, than he was only a couple of decades ago.

Totally agree! I meant to mention Martinu in my first post. (Nice alliteration, if I say so myself 8))

Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

kyjo

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 23, 2013, 02:51:44 PM
A born poet, you are  ;)

Sarge

Alliteration was my only saving grace when it came to writing poems in grade school! :D

Brian

Martinu was the first name that came to mind. Janacek is still relatively new in the USA but is making fast progress; just a few years ago his Sinfonietta was presented at a concert I attended as a "true rarity" the conductor felt privileged to be able to lead.

The Austin (TX) Symphony recently did Szymanowski's Fourth with Emanuel Ax. So actually this thread so far seems pretty spot-on.

DavidW

Martinu and Janacek entered the pantheon quite awhile ago. The Szymanowski example is better, he was underrepresented. 

Just as interesting are baroque era composers that are not Handel, Bach or Vivaldi being performed, recorded and written about more than they used to be.


Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 23, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
The Elgar First is being performed in Ludwigshafen next week by the Staatsphilharmonie Rheinland-Pfalz!  :o

Cool  8) wish I could be there.

Quote from: DavidW on October 23, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
Just as interesting are baroque era composers that are not Handel, Bach or Vivaldi being performed, recorded and

Rameau might be a good example here, in terms of getting more mainstream recognition. What complicates things is that increasingly anything pre-1800 is becoming the property of specialist period-instrument performers.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

kyjo

Quote from: Velimir on October 23, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
Also, this may just be a regional thing, but I've noticed that British composers are getting a lot more exposure in the US than they used to. (I'm hearing Walton Sym. #1 this Saturday in fact.)

I dunno about that! I can't remember the last time I saw an Elgar (besides the Enigma Variations), VW, Walton, or Britten work on a US concert program, let alone the music of Arnold, Alwyn, Bantock, Rubbra, or Bax. :(

Karl Henning

Quote from: kyjo on October 23, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
... let alone the music of Arnold, Alwyn, Bantock, Rubbra, or Bax. :(

Well, they aren't entering the pantheon! ;D

Not all that long ago, we heard Gerontius and the RVW Sixth at Symphony. And I played in the pit for Albert Herring.
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: kyjo on October 23, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
... let alone the music of Arnold, Alwyn, Bantock, Rubbra, or Bax. :(

Well, they aren't entering the pantheon! ;D

Not all that long ago, we heard Gerontius and the RVW Sixth at Symphony. And I played in the pit for Albert Herring.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot


Karl Henning

Quote from: kyjo on October 23, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
... let alone the music of Arnold, Alwyn, Bantock, Rubbra, or Bax. :(

Well, they aren't entering the pantheon! ;D

Not all that long ago, we heard Gerontius and the RVW Sixth at Symphony. And I played in the pit for Albert Herring.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

amw

Quote from: DavidW on October 23, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
Just as interesting are baroque era composers that are not Handel, Bach or Vivaldi being performed, recorded and written about more than they used to be.
Indeed. Marc-Antoine Charpentier and HIF v Biber's stars seems to be on the rise lately in particular.

Among more modern composers, there seems to be quite a lot of Elliott Carter out there considering how difficult his music is to play. Ligeti as well.


Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: kyjo on October 23, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
I dunno about that! I can't remember the last time I saw an Elgar (besides the Enigma Variations), VW, Walton, or Britten work on a US concert program, let alone the music of Arnold, Alwyn, Bantock, Rubbra, or Bax. :(

Just in the last year, I've been to concerts featuring Elgar, VW, Arnold, and Holst, and missed other concerts featuring them (including a Gerontius in Milwaukee) as well as Britten and others.  :)
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"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

kyjo

Quote from: Velimir on October 23, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
Just in the last year, I've been to concerts featuring Elgar, VW, Arnold, and Holst, and missed other concerts featuring them (including a Gerontius in Milwaukee) as well as Britten and others.  :)

Consider yourself lucky! :) I'll have to start checking concert programs around the US more often, as I wasn't aware of this trend.

mc ukrneal

A strange question. What is this pantheon and who is already in it? I'll bet we can't agree on that. I mean, what are entrance criteria? As a result, we'll never agree on the rest.
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