The Prog Rock, Art Rock and Electronic Music Thread

[Henk]

Playing it now. Will comment later.

Curious about John's evaluation on this one.

[Henk]

Not so impressed by the new Opeth.

I think the classic prog bands still left much, infinite, territory open to explore.

Pink Floyd failed in doing this for instance by themselves. They could have made a lot of more stuff, staying original. They did copy themselves too much. A bit more effort and experimentation would have had led to the opening up of hidden treasures. Further into psychadelic depths.

What do modern prog bands? They as well copy Pink Floyd insteaded of taking it further.

[milk]

I've always wanted to try to get into Aphex Twin. Any fans here? 

[milk]

I've tried it .. check out Stockhausen instead.

I don't think there is much musical relation between the two. Although, maybe someone would disagree. I mean, I don't think they preclude each other, but I doubt an interest in one will lead or connect to the other. But let's see if you or someone disagrees. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here is a fan. AT gets a lot of respect it seems. And he's been around a while.

[Karl Henning]

check out Stockhausen instead

Ladies & gentlemen: we have a new square for James Bingo!

[Mirror Image]

Plenty of good elektronische musik from a progressive musical mind HERE

Some notable/unique achievements:

• Gesang der Jünglinge
• Cosmic Pulses
• Freitag aus Licht
• Hymnen
• Kathinkas Gesang
• Klang
• Kontakte
• Mikrophonie I & II
• Mittwochs-Gruß
• Mixtur
• Oktophonie
• Orchester-Finalisten
• Sirius
• Strahlen
• Telemusik
• Unsichtbare Chöre

Ah, but this isn't the Stockhausen thread is it or did I make a wrong turn? I mean really, James. This thread deals with music that is within the progressive rock field and sorry but Stockhausen's electronic jabberwocky doesn't apply here. If you want to talk about Tangerine Dream or Popol Vuh, that's another story.

[71 dB]

I've always wanted to try to get into Aphex Twin. Any fans here?

I'm not a big fan of his, but I have couple of his CDs and know his output more or less. He has good stuff and I value his excentric ways, but most of his music isn't that great imo. I'd recommend 'Drukqs' album released in 2001. It has got Aphex Twins' trade mark crazy beats, but also "relaxing" music for prepared piano.

Autechre is imo much more remarkable group than Aphex Twin. If you don't know Autechre's music and you are interested to explore, their 3rd album 'Tri repetae' is a good starting point. Earlier stuff is easier and later stuff is more difficult ('Confield' being perhaps their most difficult album).

[milk]

I'm not a big fan of his, but I have couple of his CDs and know his output more or less. He has good stuff and I value his excentric ways, but most of his music isn't that great imo. I'd recommend 'Drukqs' album released in 2001. It has got Aphex Twins' trade mark crazy beats, but also "relaxing" music for prepared piano.

Autechre is imo much more remarkable group than Aphex Twin. If you don't know Autechre's music and you are interested to explore, their 3rd album 'Tri repetae' is a good starting point. Earlier stuff is easier and later stuff is more difficult ('Confield' being perhaps their most difficult album).

Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.

[milk]

I think I posted this somewhere on GMG before. I really enjoyed this BBC doc on prog rock.

https://www.youtube.com/v/F8De_YroimA

[Karl Henning]

Every thread is an opportunity for Stockhausen evangelism to James, the chief Stockhausketeer!

[Karl Henning]

I think I posted this somewhere on GMG before. I really enjoyed this BBC doc on prog rock.

https://www.youtube.com/v/F8De_YroimA

Thanks!  I'll want to check this out.

[TheGSMoeller]

I've always wanted to try to get into Aphex Twin. Any fans here?

Yes, big fan. Try The Richard James Album and Drukqs, great albums with songs that are all different, never the same beat, never the same sounds, always unique. And there is always a beautiful melody floating inside the chaos.

He also has some very good ambient albums.

[mn dave]

[mn dave]

Dave don't you ever want to learn anything?

I purchased a Stockhausen album.

Lesson learned.

[North Star]

I think I posted this somewhere on GMG before. I really enjoyed this BBC doc on prog rock.

I saw the document earlier this year, definitely worth watching.

[Karl Henning]

I purchased a Stockhausen album.

Lesson learned.

Where Schoolmarm James never learns . . . .

[Mirror Image]

I purchased a Stockhausen album.

Lesson learned.

Yeah, that's about right for me, too. Stockhausen - the joke of the classical world that keeps on giving year round.

[Karl Henning]

Yeah, that's about right for me, too. Stockhausen - the joke of the classical world that keeps on giving year round.

There is many a joke at a composer's expense which has you rolling your eyes a bit at the speaker.

But one which remains evergreen is:

"Have you heard any Stockhausen?" Sir Thos Beecham was asked.

"No, but I believe I have stepped in some."

[milk]

Yes, big fan. Try The Richard James Album and Drukqs, great albums with songs that are all different, never the same beat, never the same sounds, always unique. And there is always a beautiful melody floating inside the chaos.

He also has some very good ambient albums.

Thanks for the recommendations.

[milk]

No seriously, I mean a deeper musical perspective regarding electronic music (a subject of this thread), and how his pioneering work in the field set the stage not just for computerized art music but also for the sampling techniques central to much of today's pop, rock, hip-hop and electronica. .. in light of this, on a creative scale KS is one of it's most crucial & accomplished exponents, and I don't see a problem with bringing him up here in a serious discussion. Anyone interested in the field knows his crucial early works at least, the ones that brought electronic music into maturity .. Gesang der Jünglinge, Kontakte, Telemusik, Hymnen .. I strongly recommend these to anyone serious about Electronic Music, it will shed a lot of light on things and also keep inquiring ears/minds preoccupied for quite a while.

I don't know. It doesn't really seem to go with the intention of this thread. It sounds like your arguments are so broad that you can make  them almost anywhere. But then again, there are no bright lines and I'm not against your thoughts per ce. Doing an internet search, I see that Stockhausen did manage to find the time to disparage AT as "post-African" repetition. I won't hazard to guess what he's getting at there. And AT returned the favor (in a pretty ironically funny comment about how you can't dance to Stockhausen). Eno, who I do think belongs in this thread, also acknowledged Stockhausen's influence (while calling his music "unlistenable").
Anyway, for thread duty I want to say that more than one Brian Eno album tops my list of best...well...is Eno art rock or prog rock? And how about Faust and Can?
This song rocks (it's art; it's prog!):
https://www.youtube.com/v/QhDewwSoks4