What are you listening to now?

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Wakefield

Quote from: Harry's on December 27, 2014, 01:59:16 AM
A legendary Weihnachts Oratorium, because it featured the best Counter tenor I have ever heard, Yoshikazu Mera. He backed out of the Bach project to concentrate on silly pop music, and thereby robbing us from his voice. Robert von Bahr told me, that they did almost all they could do to keep him on board, but he thought that he could express himself better in avantgarde pop music. And that is a bloody shame.

By chance, I also listened to this Christmas Oratorio yesterday, and my overall impression was of a quite anemic performance. I mean these Christmas cantatas are some of the most overtly joyful music composed by Bach and this interpretation is so restrained...

Now:

Heinrich Schütz: Weihnachtshistorie
Cappella Augustana
Matteo Messori, organ and direction

[asin]B0000YWHCA[/asin]

CD 5
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

Harry

Quote from: Gordo on December 27, 2014, 06:45:20 AM
By chance, I also listened to this Christmas Oratorio yesterday, and my overall impression was of a quite anemic performance. I mean these Christmas cantatas are some of the most overtly joyful music composed by Bach and this interpretation is so restrained...

Now:

Heinrich Schütz: Weihnachtshistorie
Cappella Augustana
Matteo Messori, organ and direction

[asin]B0000YWHCA[/asin]

CD 5

Well I have a different opinion :)
And the Schutz you are playing is also in my collection, and I think this is a good one too
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Wakefield

Quote from: Harry's on December 27, 2014, 06:53:11 AM
And the Schutz you are playing is also in my collection, and I think this is a good one too

Me, too! Actually, I consider excellent all this series conducted by Messori. Sober and intimate, that's the way.  :)
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

Harry

Quote from: Gordo on December 27, 2014, 07:00:59 AM
Me, too! Actually, I consider excellent all this series conducted by Messori. Sober and intimate, that's the way.  :)

Yes, this set is underrated by many, just a few see its worth. I was talking some weeks ago to an editor of a magazine for which I write on occasion,  and we were discussing Schutz, and I referred to this set done by Messori, followed by a long silence. He never heard of this release, being the editor of a classical magazine. He bought it, and wrote a couple of days later in an email, that he was flabbergasted by the quality of the complete set, by so many unknowns.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Bogey

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Ken B

Quote from: Gordo on December 27, 2014, 07:00:59 AM
Me, too! Actually, I consider excellent all this series conducted by Messori. Sober and intimate, that's the way.  :)

I like it overall, for that reason, but a few of the recordings do have some rough singing in patches.

Harry

Quote from: Ken B on December 27, 2014, 07:11:24 AM
I like it overall, for that reason, but a few of the recordings do have some rough singing in patches.

I did not notice that!
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Mandryka

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Bogey

Quote from: Que on December 27, 2014, 02:37:39 AM
Teil 3. Am 3. Weihnachstage



Reissue (without texts or notes): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000V9M0JE/?tag=goodmusicguideco

Q

Mine has 23 page worth of notes by Nick.  1993 release at this end.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Wakefield

Quote from: Mandryka on December 27, 2014, 07:19:47 AM
Were the notes by Harnoncourt?

What do you think of the sound quality? I recall the impression of being listening to this in a live performance from the cheaper seats (especially when the chorus sings).  :)
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

Wakefield

#36951
Quote from: Harry's on December 27, 2014, 07:07:27 AM
Yes, this set is underrated by many, just a few see its worth. I was talking some weeks ago to an editor of a magazine for which I write on occasion,  and we were discussing Schutz, and I referred to this set done by Messori, followed by a long silence. He never heard of this release, being the editor of a classical magazine. He bought it, and wrote a couple of days later in an email, that he was flabbergasted by the quality of the complete set, by so many unknowns.

I totally agree. It's an extremely underrated cycle. Probably because many people (well, many is maybe excessive if we are talking about Schütz music  :D) are waiting for a more virtuosic approach, a little bit less severe.
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

Mandryka

#36952
Quote from: Bogey on December 27, 2014, 07:40:25 AM
Mine has 23 page worth of notes by Nick.  1993 release at this end.

Thanks, I will have to buy it then.

I hadn't registerd any issues with SQ, Gordo, but I'd need to listen again to be sure - I've listened more to the strange second recording - because it is a bit strange. The one I'm a bit curious about is the video he made with Schreier, I was planning n getting it, but now I know about these notes, I may get the first one instead (My copy right now is  a download without any notes.)
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

king ubu

Quote from: Que on December 27, 2014, 03:19:40 AM
Thanks! :) A pity... :( Because: no texts, NO deal... ::) I had higher expectations of this label...

Q

That alarmist one-star-review is a bit of a nuisance though - the booklet is online and you can thus clearly see what you'll get:
http://www.outhere-music.com/fr/albums/german-baroque-sacred-music-christmas-ric-349/livret

Also, instead of speculating who might have bought whom and when and why, one could invest a minute to do some research - and one could chck out what Outthere is releasing - the fact that they're behind alpha is certainly enough for me to give them plenty of credit.

And finally, complaining about lack of booklet (or booklet quality) in case of such cheap (30€ for seven discs with a pretty thick booklet, after all - cheap in my book) repackagings is, well ... pretty cheap, too.

There are cases (the Buchbinder Schubert sonatas being one) where you don't get a physyical booklet (or a very lousy one) and are pointed to the website.
I'm okay with the booklet of the "Passion/Resurrection" box - only one point it grating me there: you don't get any specific recording dates (I don't need full discographical data of the original releases, but a rough idea about what year the recordings stem from would still be nice, guess I'll try and write them a mail some day).
Es wollt ein meydlein grasen gan:
Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Und do die roten röslein stan:
Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Fick mich mehr, du hast dein ehr.
Kannstu nit, ich wills dich lern.
Fick mich, lieber Peter!

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EigenUser

Quote from: James on December 27, 2014, 07:07:13 AM
Le Marteau sans maître / Dérive 1 & 2

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I love the sound-world of Derive I. A very bubbly piece. This was the piece that got me back into Boulez. I think I'm warming to Derive II and Le Marteau..., but I'm not quite there yet.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Bogey

Quote from: Mandryka on December 27, 2014, 07:54:58 AM
Thanks, I will have to buy it then.

I hadn't registerd any issues with SQ, Gordo, but I'd need to listen again to be sure - I've listened more to the strange second recording - because it is a bit strange. The one I'm a bit curious about is the video he made with Schreier, I was planning n getting it, but now I know about these notes, I may get the first one instead (My copy right now is  a download without any notes.)

Uh-oh.  Grabbed the wrong set.  Not sure about the booklet.  Many apologies.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

SonicMan46

Boccherini for the weekend - today starting w/ the recordings below - Dave :)

 

Bogey

Quote from: SonicMan46 on December 27, 2014, 08:25:53 AM
Boccherini for the weekend - today starting w/ the recordings below - Dave :)

 

Looks as if the cd I have contains flute quintets written after your set, Dave.  I will add yours to my wishlist.

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

listener

Ernest ALDER:  French opera potpourris for piano trio
Samson et Dalila, Mognon, La Muette de Portici, Le Pardon de Ploërmel, Les Huguenots, Le Cid, Werther
Shades of the old 12" Victor 78's - 'Gems of...'    the big tunes without the longeurs.
Trio Hochelaga    (Anne Robert, Paul Marleyn, Stéphane Lemelin  vn/cello/piano
Jean-Joseph MOURET: Les Amours de Ragonde (or La Veillée de Village)
Michel Verschaeve, Jean-Paul Fouchécourt...   Les Musiciens du Louvre, Marc Minkowski, cond.
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

SonicMan46

Quote from: Bogey on December 27, 2014, 08:34:40 AM
Looks as if the cd I have contains flute quintets written after your set, Dave.  I will add yours to my wishlist.



Bill - instead of making a few comments here on Boccherini's works for flute or oboe - I'll put a more extended post HERE - please take a look a little later - Dave :)