Quiz: Mystery scores

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lukeottevanger

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First list, in two parts:
Part one
and
Part two

Second list (one long part)

New list:

Set by Luke
293 - Tchaikovsky - Festival Overture on the Danish National Anthem - (Sforzando)
294 - Tovey - Piano Concerto - (Johan)
295 - Wagner - Fantasy in F# minor - (Sforzando)
296 - Wagner-Wolf - Paraphrase über "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" - (Johan)
297 - Valen - Piano Sonata no 2 - (Johan)
298 - Weissenberg - Sonate en etat de Jazz - (Johan)
299 - Wolf-Ferrari - Violin Sonata in A minor - (Sforzando)
300 - Theo Ysaye - Piano Concerto op 9 - (Johan)
301 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto no 2 - (revealed by Luke)
302 - Tchaikovsky - The Tempest - (Sforzando)
303 - Cage - from Songbooks - (Johan)
304 - Busoni - Concerto for piano and strings op 17 - (Johan)
305 - Berlioz - Rustic Serenade - (revealed by Luke)
306 - Beethoven - Adagio (mandolin/piano) - (Sforzando)
307 - Berg - Four pieces for clarinet and piano - (Sforzando)
308 - Arensky - Piano Trio no 1 - (Sforzando)
309 - Antheil - Sonata no 2 'The Airplane' - (Greg)
310 - Bloch - Concerto Grosso no 1 - (Sforzando)
311 - Berstein - Wonderful Town - (Sforzando)
312 - Barber - Hesitation Tango - (Guido)
313 - Carpenter - Krazy Kat - (Sforzando)
314 - Bax - Harp Quintet - (Guido)
315 - Berg - Abschied - (Johan)
316 - Bernstein - La Bonne Cuisine - (Sforzando)
317 - Bruckner - Christus factus est pro nobis - (Johan)
318 - Chausson - Poeme - (Johan)
319 - Enescu - Piano Quintet - (Johan)
320 - Heinrich - A Chromatic Ramble of the Peregrine Harmonist - (Johan)
321 - Lili Boulanger - Vielle priere bouddhique - (Johan)
322 - ? -
323 - Maxwell Davies - The Lighthouse - (Johan)
324 - ? -
325 - ? -
326 - Prokofiev - Classical Symphony - (Sforzando)
327 - Shostakovich - Fugue in D flat major (from the 24) - (Sforzando)
328 - Sibelius - Symphony no 3 - (Mark)
329  - Copland - Piano Fantasy - (Sforzando)
330 - Stevenson - Prelude, Fugue and Fantasy on Busoni's Faust - (Johan)
331 - Musgrave - Narcissus - (Johan)
332 - ? -
333 - Schubert - G major quartet - (Sforzando)
334 - Nielsen - Flute Concerto - (Johan)
335 - Haydn - Farewell Symphony - (Sforzando)
336 - Elgar - Gerontius - (Johan)
337 - Dukas - L'Aprenti Sorcier - (Sforzando)
338 - Strauss - Die Frau ohne Schatten - (Sforzando)
339 - Berlioz - Harold in Italy - (Sforzando)
340 - Stravinsky - Threni - (Sforzando)
341 - Schoenberg - Gurrelieder - (Johan)
342 - Kodaly - ? - (Johan)
343 - Berlioz - Romeo et Juliette - (Sforzando)
344 - ? -
345 - ? -
346 - Bizet - L'Arlesienne (suite 1) - (Sforzando)
347 - Saint-Saens - Organ Symphony - (Sforzando)
348 - ? -
349 - Tavener - The Protecting Veil - (Guido)
350 - Orff - Carmina Burana - (Sforzando)
351 - Holst - The Planets - (Sforzando)
352 - ?Tchaikovsky - Capriccio Italien - (Mark) -
353 - Bizet - Symphony - (Sforzando)
354 - ? -
355 - Haydn - Symhpony no 6 - (Mark)
356 - Rachmaninov - Piano concerto 3 - (Mark)
357 - ? -
358 - Ravel - Daphnis et Chloe - (Mark)
359 - Tavener - Coplas (Ultimos Ritos) - (Chrone)
360 - Verdi - Aida - (Sforzando)


Set by Greta
1 - Berio - Sequenza IXb - (Luke)
2 - Dallapiccola - Quaderno musicale di Annalibera - (Luke)
3 - Stravinsky - Petrouchka - (Luke)
4 - Brahms - op 119/3 - (Luke)
5 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Luke)
6 - Sibelius - Kullervo - (Luke)
7 - Grainger - Lincolnshire Posy - (Chrone)

Set by Chrone:
4 - Rogers - Guadalcanal March - (Mark)
5 - Hermann - Vertigo - (Luke)

Set by Sforzando
49 - Faure - Violin Sonata no 2 - (Luke)
50 - Sullivan - The Mikado - (Mark)
51 - Schutz - Ich ruf zu dir - (Luke)
52 - Puccini - La Rondine - (Luke)
53 - Puccini - Messa di Gloria - (Luke)
54 - Prokofiev - Piano Concerto 4 - (Luke)
55 - Peter Susser - Quatre Bêtises - (revealed by Sforzando)
56 - Copland - 8 Dickinson Songs - (Luke)
57 - Hindemith - The Four Temperaments - (Luke)
58 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
59 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
60 - Grieg - Slatter - (Luke)
61 - Beethoven - Kakadu Variations (Luke)
62 - Beethoven - Fugue for string quintet - (Luke)
63 - Prokofiev - Overture on Hebrew Themes - (Mark)
64 - Hindemith - Der Schwanendreher - (Luke)
65 - Verdi - Quartet - (Luke)
66 - Sullivan - Cox and Box - (Luke)
67 - Bernstein - Candide - (Luke)
68 - Sondheim - A Little Night Music - (Luke)
69 - Gershwin - An American in Paris - (Luke)
70 - Egge - Symphony no 3 (Louisville) - (Luke)
71 - Butterworth - A Shropshire Lad (Luke)
72 - Falla - El retabloe de Maese Pedro - (Luke)
73 - Wolf-Ferrari - IL segreto di Susanna - (Luke)
74 - Beethoven - Ah, perfido - (Johan)
75 - Berlioz - La Mort de Cleopatre - (Luke)
76 - Boyce - Symphony no 1 - (Luke)

Set by Guido
42 - Shostakovich - Symphony no 10 - (Johan)
43 - Part - Silouans Song - (Luke)
44 - ? -
45 - W Schuman - Song of Orpheus - (Luke)
46 - Ives - Sunrise - (Luke)
47 - Feldman - Cello and Orchestra - (Luke)
48 - Harrison - Suite for Symphonic Strings - (Luke)
49 - Barber - Cello Concerto - (Luke)
50 - Ruggles - Angels - (Luke)
51 - Prokofiev - Sinfonia Concertante - (Luke)
52 - ? -

Set by Greg
32 - Haydn - Symphony no 99 - (Sforzando)

Clues to Luke's remaining ones

Clues to Guido's remaining ones

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 15, 2008, 11:03:19 AM

Yes - sorry, I thought I'd confirmed. I updated the list, if that's any consolation!  ;D

Still very surprised no one's got the very famous one I pointed out to you a few posts back.

Which very famous one this time?   :) :D ;D
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

You really need telling?

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Sforzando on July 15, 2008, 12:22:30 PM
Which very famous one this time?   :) :D ;D

;D

'Very famous' in Luke's lexicon sometimes equals 'mildly obscure' in the standard one.

Edit: But perhaps not this time. And we're simply dumb!
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 15, 2008, 12:25:27 PM
You really need telling?

Well, if you mean 351, the Neptune movement from Holst's The Planets, it was so obvious I was going to leave it for Teresa.  :D

(That bass oboe is a dead giveaway.)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

OK, the old clues, with added extras.... and now with even more of them!

298 - A pianist-composer known for his sheer effect; a piece in a particular state. This is the one obliquely referred to on the forum's busiest thread in the last day or two. The CD is a fairly newly-released one, by one of today's most famous pianists, also a composer who has been on this thread
319 - Subject of a currently active thread, mentioned more than once on this one, among other things a pianist of whom even Cortot was in awe, but for whom the piano was a second instrument.  :o The pedal marks, details of string notation and general look of this score are unique to this composer in my experience. Composer better known as a violinist. I don't think you're even trying - that isn't a clue, merely an admonishment  ;D ;D $:) $:)
322 - Composer of a recently identified score. Might help to look at the piece in a little detail. You did notice the quotation, then? You'd better get this one quickly or I promise you'll be able to hear my complaints even if you're many miles away.
324 - This work was almost forgotten by its composer; even when it was rediscovered within his lifetime, he never mentioned it and he never even named it properly (beyond the title Composition for Orchestra, which is not the name I'm looking for). It is linked thematically and chronologically with an early opera of the composer, but is probably more an expression of grief following the death of his son. His daughter died later, and the music which flowed from that event is much more famous. Interestingly, this piece is practically the only instance of D minor in the composer's output - he was obviously aware, as we all are, of the tawdry nature of that key and its aficionados, and he had personal key preferences a little way flat of this. My oh my, I may have said too much in that clue, but that's not surprising, really. That early opera shares the title and heroine of a symphonic poem (one of a famous set) by a compatriot of this composer.
325 - As far as I remember, the first composer from his country to appear on this thread. A student of two great contemporary masters. This piece is somewhat balletic. The country is an island, and is named after a composer. Or maybe that's the other way round... OK, then, that country is an IRELAND
332 - Relatively recently deceased composer of 'Requiem for a dead poet' - shares a middle name with the main male protagonist of 341. Very much one of Alban's men... Or Ingmar's, I suppose...
342 - Should be clear who. No, not him, the other one....  ;D Kodaly, Johan has ascertained. I'm on the verge of just giving you this one, as it is only what it seems to be. Have a guess before I reveal it. That isn't a clue, by the way.
344 - one of the pieces I loved most as a teenager - extraordinary texturally and timbral invention, and superlative orchestration, so that it sounds as fantastic as it looks, not just the grey sludge it could have become. Deliberately scored for a Haydnesque orchestra. The composer - whose name is also that of an important political figure of the last century from the country of 325 - is self-taught, but when younger played the national instrument of his country and in a rock band (called Influx, apparently). His music is both ultra-complex and instantly accessible. Look at the clue for 325 to help you with the relevant part of this clue. Therefore, given my new update to the clue for 325, it is clear that the famous politician with whom this composer shares his name is Irish.
34 - palindromic. Who does that sort of thing....? I has a piece by him a ling time ago, which was also partly palindromic; my sample showed the middle point of the palindrome. That score was guessed by someone from the same country as this composer. And he won't let us forget it.... though he doesn't hang around this thread as much as he should anymore  :'( As I told Greg, when I was a boy, I lived not far from this composer, but he wasn't a native of my country

And a first set of clues for my newer ones. Though you really shouldn't need them for some of these.  $:)

346 - composer has appeared on this thread recently; prior to that his last appearance was much nearer the beginning of the thread. This is from one of his best known works, and a look at the orchestra will almost certainly help. (Too much of a clue, methinks, forget I said it)
348 - composer appeared in this very same set of pieces.
351 - Just over a week to go until the big day! Damn, Sforz got it! IT was hard thinking up a cryptic enough clue for this one! (July 23rd was the day of the Neptunalia)
354 - Voices missing
357 - Only slightly less famous than the original work in this genre, composed by a great Hungarian composer

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on July 15, 2008, 12:33:01 PM
Well, if you mean 351, the Neptune movement from Holst's The Planets, it was so obvious I was going to leave it for Teresa.  :D

(That bass oboe is a dead giveaway.)

Funny sort of 'dead giveaway'...  ;D

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Jezetha on July 15, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
;D

'Very famous' in Luke's lexicon sometimes equals 'mildly obscure' in the standard one.

Edit: But perhaps not this time. And we're simply dumb!

You need to trust more, Johan.  ;D

More famous ones left....

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 15, 2008, 12:45:26 PM
Funny sort of 'dead giveaway'...  ;D

How many other scores use one? In case you're wondering:

http://knittinreed.blogspot.com/2008/02/4th-week.html

It apparently bridges the gap between the oboe and the bassoon, having its lowest Bb between the lowest notes of those two instruments.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 15, 2008, 12:44:21 PM
346 - composer has appeared on this thread recently; prior to that his last appearance was much nearer the beginning of the thread. This is from one of his best known works, and a look at the orchestra will almost certainly help. (Too much of a clue, methinks, forget I said it)

An E-flat saxophone, and all those cue notes. Must mean something. I probably know this one.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on July 15, 2008, 12:49:13 PM
How many other scores use one? In case you're wondering:

http://knittinreed.blogspot.com/2008/02/4th-week.html

It apparently bridges the gap between the oboe and the bassoon, having its lowest Bb between the lowest notes of those two instruments.

There's one in Tippett's Triple Concerto, and presumably he uses it elsewhere. It's also in Brian's Gothic and his Das Siegeslied. Those are the only places I can remember it, but I'm sure it's elsewhere too. It's not quite the same thing as the Heckelphone, which appears all over the place e.g. in the Alpensinfonie and suchlike....

But what I meant was - a dead giveaway usually gives the game away quicker than that.  ;D

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on July 15, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
An E-flat saxophone, and all those cue notes. Must mean something. I probably know this one.

I'm sure you do. The sax is the clue, more than the cues.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 15, 2008, 12:57:28 PM
I'm sure you do. The sax is the clue, more than the cues.

I'd have to check, as it's not a piece I know by heart, but V-W 6 seems a likely guess.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

No. I am sure you know this piece better than that.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 15, 2008, 01:09:31 PM
No. I am sure you know this piece better than that.

Maybe I do. It really didn't look like VW's style. More thought is needed.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

A nice picture to help you think...


(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 16, 2008, 01:05:42 AM
A nice picture to help you think...



Van Gogh . . . Arles . . . . L'Arlésienne . . . Bizet . . . .  :)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

 ;D ;D

(That's a 'View of Arles with irises', of course)

The end of the first number of the first suite, in fact. Such a famous piece, but more for the 'big tune' that dominates it than for the music per se, perhaps, which explains why it wasn't as easy as it should have been.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 16, 2008, 05:13:42 AM
;D ;D

(That's a 'View of Arles with irises', of course)

The end of the first number of the first suite, in fact. Such a famous piece, but more for the 'big tune' that dominates it than for the music per se, perhaps, which explains why it wasn't as easy as it should have been.

If all you provide is a final cadence . . . .  :D

I'll keep at the others. Poco a poco. . . .
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on July 16, 2008, 05:27:41 AM
If all you provide is a final cadence . . . .  :D

Quite a striking one, though...

Maybe you can tell that I challenged myself with that last set - to find passages in well-known scores which were nevertheless hard to identify, whilst not being atypical of the work as a whole. I think I succeeded best with the Holst, which after all is pretty much the popular classic to end all popular classics. Of the two which remain there's still one left which almost everyone here knows, I'm sure. I'd be surprised if you and the rest of the habituees of this thread (who, let's face it, are a cut above, don't you think?  ;D ;D 0:) 0:) ) didn't know both, though.

Quote from: Sforzando on July 16, 2008, 05:27:41 AM
I'll keep at the others. Poco a poco. . . .