Quiz: Mystery scores

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Luke

Raff's 5th Symphony...

How about this simple one? I've loved this piece ever since I was tiny - a guilty pleasure, perhaps!

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Luke on July 04, 2010, 04:06:56 AM
Raff's 5th Symphony...

How about this simple one? I've loved this piece ever since I was tiny - a guilty pleasure, perhaps!

Luke gets it, and then comes back with Rimsky's Russian Easter Overture.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Luke

Yes, he does! And then he comes back further with these two....and there is a common link between them, btw, not inherently but in something said about them on a CD liner note...


(poco) Sforzando

"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Luke

No. Too hard for that!  :D

Luke

OK, more detailed clue on those two - both are mentioned (or mentioned by implication) in the liner notes of a CD. This CD, of New Complexity piano pieces, includes one particular piece which the performer, writing in the notes, says is one of the very hardest pieces in the entire piano literature. The two samples I give are amongst the select other few 'hardest ever' that he mentions in those notes. He's a pianist who ought to know, btw, because he's probably the leading specialist in this sort of repertoire, so the names of these pieces are sometimes trotted out on 'hardest ever piano piece' threads by people like me who are prepared to take his word for it.

Anyway, here are a few others if anyone wants to have a go:


Luke

One more - ought to be easy, but I love this one! Programatically allusive notation, very nifty....  8) 8) 8)

Luke

Can't resist - one more:


karlhenning

474 is from the 2nd movement of the Rakhmaninov Second Concerto. Trust me to scoop in the low-hanging fruit! ; )

Luke

....except, trust me me to put in a trick one, and that's the one, I'm afraid! Mean, huh!?

(the clue is that this one is in A, the concerto movement is in E)

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 07, 2010, 03:48:19 AM
474 is from the 2nd movement of the Rakhmaninov Second Concerto. Trust me to scoop in the low-hanging fruit! ; )

Though if you look not too closely you'd think it could be the Moonlight Sonata!
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

karlhenning

Oh, I am just sore as a sunburnt neck now! LOL

Luke

Well, it was a trick one, and clearly you aren't very far at all from the right answer, actually.

Dax

So do 471 + 472 relate to the recording of Richard Barrett's Tract made by Ian Pace?
I can't identify the pieces quoted, but I'll take a punt at Ferneyhough Lemma-Icon-Epigram and Finnissy Verdi transcriptions (the second did vaguely look like a transcription of something). Pace also mentions Xenakis's Evryali, Clarence Barlow's Çogluotobüsisletmesi, Walter Zimmermann's Wüstenwanderung, , Stockhausen Piano piece X, Bussotti's Pour clavier, and, no doubt oh so much more. [Unfortunately he does like to drop names (anyone seen his repertoire list or read any interviews?) even if he must be an extraordinary sight-reader to be able to play all those notes.]

Luke

You're absolutely right except in the pieces you guess at - the correct answers are amongst the others you mention (Lemma-Icon-Epigram is implicitly not one of the 'hardest pieces', I'm guessing, as it is on that disc and yet not talked about in that paragraph)

So, I suppose I might as well say, the first one is Barlow's wonderfully titled Çogluotobüsisletmesi and the second Zimmermann's Wüstenwanderung - this first page is pretty playable, but later on....  :o

Nice work!

karlhenning


Luke

The others of my new ones are all by much more famous composers; the most minor of them is still an extremely well-known name. And the one that Karl thought was Rachmaninov's 2nd PC - well, it is Rachmaninov, just not the PC.

I suppose I ought to reveal the answers to all my unsolved ones, from all those months ago- there are some nice ones in there.

karlhenning

Quote from: Luke on July 08, 2010, 03:48:58 AM
The others of my new ones are all by much more famous composers; the most minor of them is still an extremely well-known name. And the one that Karl thought was Rachmaninov's 2nd PC - well, it is Rachmaninov, just not the PC.

Thanks!  Wasn't sure whether we were talking a quotation by someone else, which would leave me utterly at sea.

Luke

#4698
OK, fellas, whether or not this thread is to continue - and I hope it does, it's time to tidy some things up, as they were left in the spring. First off, here are the traditional links to the lists of previously identified scores:

First list, part one
and
First list, part two

Second list (one long part)

Third list (one long part)

Fourth list

Now, this is how things were left a few months ago. I've filled in all the scores identified up till now, and, of mine, I have filled in in bold and in red, the answers to those of mine that were missing. As you can see, there are still a few unidentified of Guido's and Maciek's. Clues, boys, or maybe just the answers now!

Set by Guido

55 - Faure - D minor Trio - (Mark)
56 - Stravinsky - Four Russian Songs - (Luke)
57 - Barber - Canzonetta - (Luke)
58 - Moeran - Serenade - (Luke)
59 - ? -
60 - Dutilleux - 3 Strophes - (Luke)
61 - ? -
62 - ? -
63 - Dvorak - Waldesruhe - (Luke)
64 - ? -
65 a and b - Feldman - Patterns in a Chromatic Field - (Luke)


Set by Luke

401 - Mendelssohn - Sonata op 6 - (Sforzando)
402 - Mendelssohn - Fantasia on the Last Rose of Summer - (Sforzando)
403 - Schoenberg - Variations - (Sforzando)
404 - Tippet - Little Music - (revealed by Luke)
405 - Britten - Curlew River - (revealed by Luke)
406 - Britten - Spring Symphony - (revealed by Luke)
407 - Tippett - The Vision of St Augustine - (revealed by Luke) - this page is the vision itself, folks!
408 - Stravinsky - Dumbarton Oaks - (revealed by Luke)
409 - Janacek - Cekam Te! - (Guido)
410 - Janacek - Souvenir - (Sforzando)
411 - Janacek - Violin Concerto - (Guido)
412 and 412a - Kurtag - Jatekok - (Guido)
413 - Sculthorpe - Kakadu - (revealed by Luke)
414 - Respighi - Pines of Rome - (revealed by Luke)
415 - Wall Street Rag - Joplin (Mark)
416 - Medtner - Sonata Reminiscenza - (Sforzando)
417 - Tippett - Quartet no 3 - (revealed by Luke)
418 - Maxwell Davies - Five Little Piano Pieces - (revealed by Luke)
419 - Janacek - Moravian Folksongs (for piano) - (Maciek)
420 - Puccini - Tango - (revealed by Luke)
421 - Janacek - 'Zdenka' Variations - (revealed by Luke)
422 - Tippett - Concerto for Orchestra - (Mark)
423 - Jellinek - Zwolftonwerk op 15 - Toccata Funebre - (revealed by Luke)
424 - Korngold - Violin Concerto - (revealed by Luke)
425 - Respighi - Roman Festivals - (revealed by Luke)
426 - Dukas - Prelude Elegiaque (sur le nom de Haydn) - (revealed by Luke)
427 - Debussy - Homage a Haydn - (revealed by Luke)
428 - Ravel - Menuet sur le nom de Haydn - (revealed by Luke)
429 - Hahn - Theme varie sur le nom de Haydn - revealed by Luke)
430 - D'Indy - Menuet sur le nom de Haydn - (revealed by Luke)
431 - Ravel - Berceuse sur le nom de Gabriel Faure - (revealed by Luke)
432 - Koechlin - Choral sur le nom de Faure - (revealed by Luke)
433 - Schmidt - Homage sur le nom de Gabriel Faure - (revealed by Luke)
434 - Langaard - Music of the Spheres - (Maciek)
435 - Mussorgsky - The Marriage - (Maciek)
436 - Horatio Parker- A Star Song - (Johan)
437 - Stevenson - Preludette on the name George Gershwin - (revealed by Luke)
438 - Wild - Variations on Someone to Watch Over Me - (Dax)
439 - Gershwin/Grainger - Love Walked In - (Dax)
440 - Gershwin/Finnissy - Boy Wanted - (revealed by Luke)
441 - Berg - Chamber Concerto - (Guido)
442 - Janacek - Riklada (note the ocarina part, that was the big clue)
443 - Reger - Clarinet Quintet - (Mark)
444 - von Reznicek - Violin Concerto - rappy
445 - Janacek - The Ballad of Blanik - revealed by Luke
446 - Webern - Piano Quintet - Guido
447 - Judith Weir - The art of touching the keyboard - revealed by Luke
448 - Panufnik - Pentasonata - (Maciek)
449 - Tchaikovsky - Symphony no 2 - revealed by Luke
450 - Brahms - Rinaldo - revealed by Luke
451 - utility piece by 'G.W. Marks' = possibly the very young Brahms - revealed by Luke
452 - Dussek - Sonata in F sharp - Guido
453 - Suk - Scherzo Fantastique - revealed by Luke
454 - Farwell - Impressions of the Wa-Wan ceremony of the Omahas - revealed by Luke
455 - Stanford - The Blue Bird - revealed by Luke, who is shocked no one got this, one of the most gorgeous of all pieces of choral music. Hunt it down and hear it! 
456 - Chausson - Concert for violin, piano, string quartet - Maciek -
457 - Schoenberg - Wind Quintet - (Guido)
458 - Schoenberg - Survivor from Warsaw - (Mark)
459 - Schoenberg - 5 Orchestral Pieces op 16 - (Cato)
460 - Schoenberg - Die Jakobsleiter - revealed by Luke
461 - Schoenberg - Piano Concerto - revealed by Luke
462 - Schoenberg - piece for piano duet - revealed by Luke
463 - Schoenberg - String Trio - (Guido)
464 - Schoenberg - Accompaniment to a Film Scene - revealed by Luke
465 - Schubert - B flat sonata - Maciek
466 - Schoenberg - Chamber Symhpony no 1 - (Mark)
467 - Schoenberg - Folksong setting - revealed by Luke
468 - Loeffler - La mort de Tintagiles - (Guido)
469 was one I made a mistake with - here it is. Thought it was a Humperdinck insert into Parsifal, but turns out it's just Wagner. I also have another 469 in my files, but I can't find where I posted it - in any case, it is Ferneyhough, Mnemosyne, for bass flute plus 8 taped siblings.
470 - Rimsky Korsakov - Russian Easter Festival Overture - Sforzando
471 - C Barlow - Çogluotobüsisletmesi - Dax
472 - W Zimmermann - Wüstenwanderung - Dax
screw-up! no 473
474 - Rachmaninov - ? - Karl
475 - ? -
476 - ? -
477 - ? -
478 - ? -
479 - ? -

Set by Maciek

93 - ten Holt - Canto Ostinato - (Dax)
94 - Tchaikovsky - Un poco de Chopin - (Luke)
95 - Szymanowski - Prelude and Fugue - (Luke)
96 - ? -
97 - ? -
98 - Stojowski - Cello sonata - (Luke)
99 - ? -
100 - Chopin - Sonata no 3 - (Luke)
101 - Szymanowski - Violin Sonata arr cello - (Guido)
102 - Szymanowski - Prelude and Fugue - (Luke)
103 - Paderewski - Symphony - (Luke)
104 - Szymanowski - Myths (Dryads and Pan) - (Dax)
105 - ? -
106 - Bacewicz - PIano Sonata no 2 - Taxes
107 - ? -
108 - Bacewicz - Music for String, Trumpets and Percussion - Luke
109 - ? -
110 - ? -
111 - ? -
112 - ? -
113 - Szymanowski - Quartet no 2 - Taxes
114 - Bacewicz - String Quartet no 7 - Taxes
115 - ? -
116 - ? -
117 - ? -
118 - ? -
119 - ? -
120 - ? -

Set by Karl
2 (bet you don't remember setting one before Karl, do you? but my records show otherwise!!  ;D ) - Albeniz - Asturias - (Luke)
3 - Bartok - Allegro Barbaro - (Maciek)
4 - Prokofiev - Toccata - (Luke)
5 - Rachmaninov - Isle of the Dead - (Luke)
6 - Schoenberg - Pierrot Lunaire - (Luke)
7 - Sibelius - Valse Triste - (Maciek)
8 - Chopin - Prelude (A minor) - (Luke)
9 - Mahler - Ruckert Lieder - (Cato)
10 - Palestrina - Sicut cervus - (Maciek)
11 - Tchaikovsky - Serenade for Strings - (Mark)
12 - Beethoven - Eroica - (Luke)
13 - Holst - The Planets - (Luke)
14 - Shostakovich - Symphony no 7 - (Luke)
15 - Wagner - Parsifal Prelude - (Luke)
16 - Bartok - Quartet no 2 - (Luke)
17 - Sibelius - Symphony no 4 - (Mark)
18 - Shostakovich - Quartet no 7 - (Mark)
19 - Satie - Embyrons Dessechees - (Luke)
20 - Brahms - Horn Trio - (Mark)

Set by Taxes
1 - Faure - Cello Sonata 1 - Guido
2 - Alkan - Concerto for solo piano - Luke
3 - Haydn - Sonata - Luke
4 - Liszt - Sonata - Luke
5 - Beethoven - Emperor Concerto - Luke

Set by Sforzando
77 - Vorisek - Symphony in D - Luke
78 - Dittersdorf - Quartet in G - Rappy
79 - D'Indy - Istar - Luke
80 - Elgar - In the South - Luke
81 - Raff - Symphony no 5 - Luke


Set  by Rappy
1 - Schubert - G major Quartet - Luke
2 - Brahms - Hungarian Dance 1 - Luke
3 - ? -
4 - ? -
5 - ? -
6 - Beethoven - E minor Quartet - Luke
7 - Mahler - 9th symphony - Luke
8 - ? -
9 - Brahms - Piano Concerto no 2 - Luke

Set by James
1 - Zappa - The Black Page - Luke

karlhenning

Great, Luke, thanks! This week I'll undertake an extension of my own offerings.