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Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« on: September 18, 2008, 11:20:03 AM »
A sad way to begin a thread, but just found out that Mauricio Kagel has died in Germany on Thursday.  A short article is here; I'm trying to find a longer one.

His piece, Der Schall (1968) was one of the first contemporary pieces I ever heard.

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 11:32:26 AM »
The only works I've heard by him are two piano trios, which were very fine. Perhaps this could become a rec thread, for those of us who have heard very little...
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 11:54:30 AM »
The only piece I know really is Match for two cellists and percussionist in which the cellists, dressed as tennis players try to out compete each other with virtuoso flourished. The Percussionist acts as umpire. There is not a single note in it that is not in some way inflected or distorted. A fantastic piece, and damned fine comedy too!
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 11:59:19 AM »
Nooooooooooooooo       :'(


Here's the two CDs of his that I own:








and the one I've listened to once:






and the one I've read about in a book about extended instrumental techniques, and have watned to listen to:






In short, Kagel is a composer whose music is ALL about imagination. That's what you hear- it makes you go, "Hm!"  :)
His most accessible works that I know about are the last two String Quartets and "Pan", which has a piccolo along with SQ. (the first uses lots of extended techniques, and I think, rubber bands are even included somehow in the performance, but I can't remember how). He supposedly had a more traditional style later on in life after starting out very experimental.......

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 12:46:36 PM »
He was highly experimental, one of the most of any composer I know (in terms of the theatrical elements he added to his pieces).  I haven't heard Match--that sounds fantastic.

Thanks to UbuWeb, here are Acustica and Der Schall, available for listening.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 12:51:55 PM »
He was highly experimental, one of the most of any composer I know (in terms of the theatrical elements he added to his pieces).  I haven't heard Match--that sounds fantastic.

Thanks to UbuWeb, here are Acustica and Der Schall, available for listening.

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Awesome! I'm putting on Der Schall right away.

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 12:58:55 PM »
Sorry, forgot to post the link to some of Kagel's films, also on UbuWeb.

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 01:01:43 PM »
 0:)

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 06:55:07 PM »
There is a great recording of Music for Renaissance Instruments available free at the www.avantgardeproject.org/
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 11:08:42 AM »
I could have sworn I posted on a Kagel Thread recently, but it's not one of these two,...huh,...oh, well.

I got this recording of Kagel's SQ No.4, and,... YES!!,.. it is quite something special, I think. It's on a new cd, with, of all things, Keuris' No.1.



 It's in two mvmts., about 12mins a piece. There is an anonymously folkic quality to this music that does not eschew modern techniques. The second mvmt. begins with the most charming minor key figure, which is then answered in totally avant parodistic fashion. I think I even wanted to negatively prejudge this Sq, but it totally won me over. I was reminded of Kagel's generation of composers, who began to write very profoundly moving music in the last years of their lives (Boucourechliev's SQ No.3, Berio's Notturno). Don't be fooled by my language. I think you will really love this piece. It reminds me a little of Janacek's, or Malipiero's way (especially Janacek, though), of just following one thing with another without any real transition, bap, bap, bap.  It's da shizzle!
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 11:55:34 AM »
for the Kagel fans ..



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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2013, 02:40:42 PM »
My Kagel´s cds:

.Heterophonie/ Improvisation ajoutée....Wergo

.Orchestral works...............................Col Legno

.Mauricio Kagel 2................................Montaigne

.Piano works......................................CPO

.The Arditti SQ Edition.........................Montaigne

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2013, 02:59:00 PM »
And Playback Play.....WDR

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2013, 03:47:01 PM »
Kagel is someone I need to investigate.

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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2014, 05:28:15 PM »
I posted this on the listening thread, but I know it will get swept away in the currents of current listening trends. Has anyone heard of this piece, or heard it? It is called "...den 24.xii.1931" and it is scored for a chamber orchestra with baritone.

It's on YouTube (video performance): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ycBqMOWET0

The melody that gets stuck in my head starts around 3:43 in the video.

December 24th, 1931 (24.xii.1931) is Kagel's birthday. Subtitled "Garbled News", it is a piece for baritone and chamber orchestra where the baritone sings various news clippings (in German) from newspapers published/printed on the day he was born. I'm not a Kagel fan, but I admit that it is nicely done. A lot of stuff was happening then, obviously, from the rise of the Nazis to a major prison revolt in his homeland of Argentina. There is even a Nazi ad for cigarettes in there!
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008) STRING QUARTET NO.3
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2015, 08:58:39 AM »
String Quartet No.3 (1986-87)

Kagel does the Schnittke thing with a whole lot more chops, imo. This thing a 35min., four mouvement work, very Classical, starting off with some unknown fairytale melody, but with problems- it's "post modern" of course,- there are going to be "problems". Now, there's really nothing scary here, and it's all very well crafted, but, it's not your gramp's Mendelssohn, that's for sure.

I'm looking into his 3 Piano Trios...

Anyhow, love that SQ...
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008) PIANO TRIOS 1 2 3
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2016, 10:16:02 AM »
tHE kAGEL ptS ARE things all can evjoy.....



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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2016, 07:10:38 AM »
My Kagel´s cds:

.Heterophonie/ Improvisation ajoutée....Wergo

.Orchestral works...............................Col Legno

.Mauricio Kagel 2................................Montaigne

.Piano works......................................CPO

.The Arditti SQ Edition.........................Montaigne

Just went through the discography... it's not as detailed as one might think... besides the Winter&Winter and Disques Montaigne series, there's not all that much from such a varied output.

I'm still championing the 3 Piano Trios as the Absolute Music highpoint right now...




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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2016, 11:41:27 PM »
I really became a huge Kagel fan this year, he's so versatile stylistically and aesthetically but his works is so fun, both the extremely absurd and the serious music. Are there many other Kagel nerds here?  ;)
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Re: Mauricio Kagel (1931-2008)
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2016, 07:13:34 AM »
I really became a huge Kagel fan this year, he's so versatile stylistically and aesthetically but his works is so fun, both the extremely absurd and the serious music. Are there many other Kagel nerds here?  ;)

I keep pushing the 3 Piano Trios, and the CPO disc with 'Serenade', and the String Quartet No.3...
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