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Started by Contrapunctus666, March 22, 2009, 06:17:40 AM

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Contrapunctus666

Hello.

I am from Croatia and I have been listening to the classical music since the last summer. I am 17 years old, soon 18. My favourite classical pieces are The Art of Fugue(Reinhard Goebel; Musica Antiqua Köln), Schubert's Unfinished by Czell and Beethoven's fifth symphony(Kleiber). I haven't listened to many pieces but I don't need every music that is "not as good as.." Quality>>>quantity!

I also like all other music that is based on narrative structure(classicaly influenced! that is maybe the reason why I started to listen to the classical music) like hardcore punk, electronic/ambient(Kraftwerk, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, later Beherit etc.), progressive rock and extreme metal(death and black).

springrite

Quote from: Contrapunctus666 on March 22, 2009, 06:17:40 AM
My favourite classical pieces are The Art of Fugue...

That very fact qualifies you as a person of exquisite taste and a friend of mine. Welcome!
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prémont

Quote from: springrite on March 22, 2009, 06:41:33 AM
That very fact qualifies you as a person of exquisite taste and a friend of mine. Welcome!

Seconded :)
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Renfield

Quote from: Contrapunctus666 on March 22, 2009, 06:17:40 AM
I also like all other music that is based on narrative structure(classicaly influenced! that is maybe the reason why I started to listen to the classical music) like hardcore punk, electronic/ambient(Kraftwerk, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, later Beherit etc.), progressive rock and extreme metal(death and black).

What an unexpected paragraph; especially the highlighted segment.

Same here, both in general extra-classical preferences and reasons for them (though prog rock is still something I'm not properly acquainted with). Kraftwerk in particular are a great weakness of mine; as are Blodsrit, across the literal and metaphorical (thematic) pond! 8)


Welcome aboard. With your above criterion, if you haven't listened to Bruckner yet, you owe it to yourself to do so. Then again, as the others noted, your starting with the Art of the Fugue speaks volumes about your taste, so I've no doubt good music will not pass you by. ;)

ChamberNut

Welcome to GMG, Contrapunctus666!!

Always great to hear young people enjoying classical music.  :)

Contrapunctus666

#5
As for Bruckner, I have his ninth(Furtwängler), I listened to it only 2 times(both times as a background while I was doing something) I will have listen to it more(you know, good music takes time to appreciate, Bach's Art of Fugue took me half a year (with constantly listening) but it was worth it)

This seems to be very interesting: http://www2.nau.edu/tas3/bachindex.html
Gotta read it.

Renfield

Quote from: Contrapunctus666 on March 22, 2009, 07:49:37 AM
As for Bruckner, I have his ninth(Furtwängler), I listened to it only 2 times(both times as a background while I was doing something) I will have listen to it more(you know, good music takes time to appreciate, Bach's Art of Fugue took me half a year (with constantly listening) but it was worth it)

A very good choice of conductor. You really are starting at the top! :D

But indeed, you said it: good music takes its time. Especially this sort of good music, if you don't want to end up like Brahms and call it a symphonic boa constrictor! (Mind, Brahms' music is nothing simple either, of course. 8))


For what it's worth, I'd recommend having a listen to the 8th before you go back to the 9th, so you'll have a grasp of how a complete Bruckner symphony works (particularly important for Bruckner, as every movement plays a distinct role), and 'abstract' from there.

(It almost goes without saying that Furtwängler will also serve you well, in the 8th.)

Contrapunctus666

Quote from: Renfield on March 22, 2009, 08:18:38 AM
A very good choice of conductor. You really are starting at the top! :D

Yeah, I am a perfectionist :)

Quote from: Renfield on March 22, 2009, 08:18:38 AM

(It almost goes without saying that Furtwängler will also serve you well, in the 8th.)
Thanks, I will make sure to check it out.

Renfield

Quote from: Contrapunctus666 on March 22, 2009, 10:06:31 AM
Thanks, I will make sure to check it out.

My personal recommendation would be the 1944 Vienna Philharmonic recording, remastered nicely by DG here:




(That whole box is very rewarding. And there's also a recent Music & Arts remastering of that particular 8th, but I find it a little too filtered.)


Alternatively/complementarily  for the Bruckner 8th - and perhaps as a top recommendation in general, for perfectionists - I would also advise this one:




But let me stop derailing your introduction thread with Bruckner!

(Notice how I've kept quite about Mahler - whom you can also see in my avatar - towards preventing the worst derailment. ;))

Benji

Is this the same Contrapunctus of olde?  ???

Lethevich

Quote from: Benji on March 22, 2009, 05:02:28 PM
Is this the same Contrapunctus of olde?  ???

I think he was older and American. A shame that he disappeared.
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Hollywood

Welcome to the forum Contrapunctus666. Greetings from Vienna, Austria.
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Herman

Quote from: Benji on March 22, 2009, 05:02:28 PM
Is this the same Contrapunctus of olde?  ???

In that case the name "Gould" would have occurred right away. So, no. :P

Lethevich

Quote from: Herman on March 23, 2009, 03:14:08 AM
In that case the name "Gould" would have occurred right away. So, no. :P

The creepy thing is that in the final few months of his posting, he had developed interests in other pianists and mentioned GG much less often. A crisis of faith, perhaps?
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Diletante

Welcome to the site, Contrapunctus666! Have fun!
Orgullosamente diletante.

Contrapunctus666