What - no thread about how the moon landings were faked?

[robnewman]

This should keep Rob busy for a while..
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage3.html

Rod, just tell us, at the 7th consecutive request, the POWER source for the air conditioning system you believe the Apollo spacemen had in their suits when walking on the moon.

A simple question and we still don't have a straight answer. All the fake films and now this ? All the lost 'data' and now this. Now, Rod, save the mission. On behalf of NASA please answer the question (drum roll.........)

Rod Corkin, NASA hero, PLEASE tell us the power source of the suits used by the Apollo astronauts on the moon !!!!!

[Florestan]

Florestan is going to tell us about the power source for this nonsense -

Florestan, was it

a) A coal fire ?

If you refer to the power source for circulating the water in the garments (which is just about the only power source for such a system) you might be closer to truth than you fancy. Have you ever heard of Thermosiphon?

[robnewman]

If you refer to the power source for circulating the water in the garments (which is just about the only power source for such a system) you might be closer to truth than you fancy. Have you ever heard of Thermosiphon?

Great. Now you will tell us the actual power source, right ? Thermosiphon is NOT a power source, is it Florestan ?

So, at the 8th consecutive time of asking, Florestan -

'In the name of NASA, John Wayne, and all couch potatoes in the world, please tell us .....(drum roll) - WHAT IS THE ACTUAL POWER SOURCE used to cool the astronauts who (supposedly) walked on the Moon'

[Rod Corkin]

Rod, just tell us, at the 7th consecutive request, the POWER source for the air conditioning system you believe the Apollo spacemen had in their suits when walking on the moon.

A simple question and we still don't have a straight answer. All the fake films and now this ? All the lost 'data' and now this. Now, Rod, save the mission. On behalf of NASA please answer the question (drum roll.........)

Rod Corkin, NASA hero, PLEASE tell us the power source of the suits used by the Apollo astronauts on the moon !!!!!

You never requested anything from me 7 times, I've only been dipping in to this topic. Here is some info about the Apollo space suits I found in 15 seconds. There is a section in there on the back pack including the power source...
http://apollomaniacs.web.infoseek.co.jp/apollo/spacesuite.htm

Now regarding the links I posted above..?

[robnewman]

You never requested anything from me 7 times, I've only been dipping in to this topic. Here is some info about the Apollo space suits I found in 15 seconds. There is a section in there on the back pack including the power source...
http://apollomaniacs.web.infoseek.co.jp/apollo/spacesuite.htm

Now regarding the links I posted above..?

Rod, the discussion is taking place HERE on this thread. Don't you know that ?

I am asking the question (now for the 9th time) to readers of this thread to specifically tell us the actual POWER SOURCE.

Since you claim you know, please tell us right here on this thread.

Or shall I ask the question 10 consecutive times without direct reply ?

You see, quoting things off the thread is not very helpful, is it ? Your direct statement will be much appreciated and NASA will send you a badge as a hero of the APOLLO missions  


Your source (which is written in rather poor English) says -

Two 16.8 volt battery provided electrical power. These battery were 4 pound weight each

Is THIS the power source, Rod ??

[Florestan]

Great. Now you will tell us the actual power source, right ? Thermosiphon is NOT a power source, is it Florestan ?

So, at the 8th consecutive time of asking, Florestan -

'In the name of NASA, John Wayne, and all couch potatoes in the world, please tell us .....(drum roll) - WHAT IS THE ACTUAL POWER SOURCE used to cool the astronauts who (supposedly) walked on the Moon'

Your reading comprehension skills and your power of inference are even lower than I thought.

Ok, let's take it step by step.

Think about your home refrigerator. It has the same idea behind it as the system in the spacesuits and as all cooling systems: to take heat from somewhere and dissipate it elsewehere. Now, the refrigerator needs power for two equipments: the pumps for circulating the cooling agent and the water-glycole solution and the compressor for compressing the gaseous cooling agent.

Now, in the spacesuits cooling system there is no compressor and the circulating pump is replaced by the thermosiphon. What power source do you need anymore and for what?

Of course things are much more complicated than this, but that's the basic idea behind them.

[robnewman]

Your reading comprehension skills and your power of inference are even lower than I thought.

Ok, let's take it step by step.

Think about your home refrigerator. It has the same idea behind it as the system in the spacesuits and as all cooling systems: to take heat from somewhere and dissipate it elsewehere. Now, the refrigerator needs power for two equipments: the pumps for circulating the cooling agent and the water-glycole solution and the compressor for compressing the gaseous cooling agent.

Now, in the spacesuits cooling system there is no compressor and the circulating pump is replaced by the thermosiphon. What power source do you need anymore and for what?

Of course things are much more complicated than this, but that's the basic idea behind them.

Florestan......(drum roll)..............the POWER source was..........(increasing drum roll)...................

Two 16.8 volt battery provided electrical power. These battery were 4 pound weight each

Is THIS the POWER source Florestan ??

With an emergency backup system of lots of HORSE MANURE supplied in copious quantities by NASA

[Rod Corkin]

Florestan......(drum roll)..............the POWER source was..........(increasing drum roll)...................

Two 16.8 volt battery provided electrical power. These battery were 4 pound weight each

Is THIS the POWER source Florestan ??

Are you asking how the batteries were charged? Or what?? Write in plain English and stop making yourself look even more odious that you already appear.

At the 3rd time of asking I want your response to all the points raised here...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage3.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage4.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage5.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage6.html

[robnewman]

Are you asking how the batteries were charged? Or what?? Write in plain English and stop making yourself look even more odious that you already appear.

At the 3rd time of asking I want your response to all the points raised here...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage3.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage4.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage5.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage6.html

You are saying that 2 batteries of 16.8 volts (weighing 4 pounds each) supplied the power to run the cooling system of astronauts on the Moon in temperatures well above the boiling point of water on the earth , right ?

And I am saying this is Hollywood nonsense. I am saying this is sheer HORSE MANURE. The fake films, the glaring and crude mistakes, the impossibilities of the story, the missing data, the hype - these are all features of science fiction/propaganda movies. The Moon Landings are for kids of the late 60's. Why not grow up and admit that it was all sheer nonsense ? For a thousand simple reasons. Some of them already given.

As for Solar Radiation, let's just forget it. Since nobody here wants to accept that it would have fried them alive before they ever arrived at the Moon.

[Rod Corkin]

You are saying that 2 batteries of 16.8 volts (weighing 4 pounds each) supplied the power to run the cooling system of astronauts on the Moon in temperatures well above the boiling point of water on the earth , right ?

And I am saying this is Hollywood nonsense. I am saying this is sheer HORSE MANURE.

You're no more an expert on this that I am, I'm sure there is an answer to such things but I'm at work and can spend no more time on the matter today. Maybe you can find what you are looking for in one of these...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage3.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage4.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage5.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage6.html

I hope by the next time I visit this thread you have refuted all the comments made in the above links (or have agreed with them!), at the 4th time of asking. If you can't then I recommend the topic is closed. It is about time you started to answer some questions Rob.

[robnewman]

You're no more an expert on this that I am, I'm sure there is an answer to such things but I'm at work and can spend no more time on the matter today. Maybe you can find what you are looking for in one of these...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage3.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage4.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage5.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.haggath/apollopage6.html

I hope by the next time I visit this thread you have refuted all the comments made in the above links, at the 4th time of asking. If you can't then I recommend the topic is closed. It is about time you started to answer some questions Rob.

Rod, you can't even quote your own material. It's hilarious. You are just a sucker for NASA fiction. Not having an answer to solar radiation you just ignore it. Now you want us to believe in being cooled by an air conditioning system that weighs less than half a car battery on the surface of the moon with temperatures that vary by hundreds of degrees.

Rod, you ARE the weakest link........

[The new erato]

You are saying that 2 batteries of 16.8 volts (weighing 4 pounds each) supplied the power to run the cooling system of astronauts on the Moon in temperatures well above the boiling point of water on the earth , right ?

And I am saying this is Hollywood nonsense. I am saying this is sheer HORSE MANURE. The fake films, the glaring and crude mistakes, the impossibilities of the story, the missing data, the hype - these are all features of science fiction/propaganda movies. The Moon Landings are for kids of the late 60's. Why not grow up and admit that it was all sheer nonsense ? For a thousand simple reasons. Some of them already given.

As for Solar Radiation, let's just forget it. Since nobody here wants to accept that it would have fried them alive before they ever arrived at the Moon.

The batteries didn't have to cool anything, they only had to circulate the cooling fluids to a radiator. And the notion of a temperature in a vacuum is false, thinking about temperature in earthly terms are just due to mislead you. Thermal radiation works differently. If you reflect 100% of incoming thermal radiation there will be no temperature increase. It's not like you are moving around in a 200C atmosphere.

But I must be even more stupid than you rob, wasting time typing this, well aware that these facts (a word you love) are far beyond your powers of comprehension.

[Rod Corkin]

Rod, you can't even quote your own material. It's hilarious. You are just a sucker for NASA fiction. Not having an answer to solar radiation you just ignore it. Now you want us to believe in being cooled by an air conditioning system that weighs less than half a car battery on the surface of the moon with temperatures that vary by hundreds of degrees.

Rod, you ARE the weakest link........

Rob you need help. Considering you are not prepared to respond to any of the counter claims I seriously recommend the topic is closed unless someone else is prepared to do so.

[Florestan]

Two 16.8 volt battery provided electrical power. These battery were 4 pound weight each[/b]

Is THIS the POWER source Florestan ??

And if it is, so what? I didn't claim thermosiphon was the exact mechanism used (remember "things are much more complicated than that"?); I just pointed out that they wouldn't need huge power sources to circulate the water --- and, as proof, two 16.8 batteries were enough.

You are saying that 2 batteries of 16.8 volts (weighing 4 pounds each) supplied the power to run the cooling system of astronauts on the Moon in temperatures well above the boiling point of water on the earth , right ?

You promised us to show, by physical reasoning and calculations that this is impossible. We're still waiting.

[Rod Corkin]

The batteries didn't have to cool anything, they only had to circulate the cooling fluids to a radiator.

This has already been pointed out to Rob, there is no point continuing with this thread.

[Herman]

Rob you need help. Considering you are not prepared to respond to any of the counter claims I seriously recommend the topic is closed unless someone else is prepared to do so.

Disagree. GMG needs help from its mods.

[Rod Corkin]

Disagree. GMG needs help from its mods.

GMG's mods are around too much when you don't need them, and not around at all when you do.

[Florestan]

This has already been pointed out to Rob.

Yes, but he's been too busy building bridges and had no time for learning how a refrigerator or an air-conditioner work.