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Quote from: jlaurson on January 11, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
No, no one really does. These kind of ugly, ungainly, unloving sets have been around for such a long time; at Tower we were ashamed of them, almost, and pushed them in the furthest corner.
thanks, I'll pass since I have the basics (Strauss, Lehár, Kalman etc.) already.  The meagre information made me suspicious about the appeal beyond the local area.
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Quote from: Mirror Image on January 11, 2012, 03:00:58 PM
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Quite tempted by Barenboim/Boulez set:

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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 13, 2012, 06:41:05 AM
Quite tempted by Barenboim/Boulez set:


I've heard unflattering things about the performance around which this was recorded... which need not necessarily reflect on the recording. Boulez didn't know the score, allegedly, and Barenboim had practiced as 'much as usual'...

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Quote from: jlaurson on January 13, 2012, 06:57:14 AM
I've heard unflattering things about the performance around which this was recorded... which need not necessarily reflect on the recording. Boulez didn't know the score, allegedly, and Barenboim had practiced as 'much as usual'...

Oh, that's rather surprising considering that the interpreters are Barenboim and Boulez, two greater artists; thank you for the feedback.
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Quote from: jlaurson on January 13, 2012, 06:57:14 AM
I've heard unflattering things about the performance around which this was recorded... which need not necessarily reflect on the recording. Boulez didn't know the score, allegedly, and Barenboim had practiced as 'much as usual'...
Yet it's a Gramophone Editor's choice in January 2012.

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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 13, 2012, 07:16:12 AM
Oh, that's rather surprising considering that the interpreters are Barenboim and Boulez, two greater musicians; thank you for the feedback.

It is... at least re: Boulez. Barenboim is notoriously sloppy about rehearsing his pianism. Boulez' lapse was - at least partially - explained with his eye-condition (an aneurism, apparently, and constant need for eye-drops) and his bad health recently. (He broke a rib some time ago, getting his trolley of the luggage belt, rather than having his Butler Hans take care of it.)
And again: the recording may be a different matter. Not that a Gramophone Choice would necessarily sway me one way or the other. [Listening to it right now, curious enough to make up my own mind.]
I heard Boulez live around that time in works he obviously knew (Webern & Mahler), and at least the Webern was terrific.

Bogey

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7 or 8 lps....$20.  Frisbees, or worth the listen?
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Quote from: Mandryka on January 10, 2012, 12:13:23 PM
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This is an interesting release by Naxos Historical.

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Quote from: Bogey on January 13, 2012, 05:32:24 PM


7 or 8 lps....$20.  Frisbees, or worth the listen?

Böhm's Mozart series on DG, especially the operas, are really good. With the symphonies I suppose it depends on your temperament for this manner of performance - it's very well done in its style of choice, but for some nowadays this take may be considered a wrong choice. I feel that he did have an affinity with the composer, though, and the early symphonies are meticulously detailed, passionate, and it's not like we're going to have another big band cycle of them again in this style and sound, which makes the recordings valuable.
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Considering this set as the harpsichord samples sound very appealing....However, which portion of the set does the organ music represent please ? Thank you

Olivier

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Quote from: Papy Oli on January 14, 2012, 02:11:24 AM
Considering this set as the harpsichord samples sound very appealing....However, which portion of the set does the organ music represent please ? Thank you



If I am recalling correctly the ratio is about two fifths organ, three fifths proto-harpsichord instruments. The discs tend to mix the instruments up for variety rather than focus on themes. It's an excellent set, if you get a nice price to go for it :3
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Quote from: Lethevich Dmitriyevna Pettersonova on January 14, 2012, 02:16:22 AM
If I am recalling correctly the ratio is about two fifths organ, three fifths proto-harpsichord instruments. The discs tend to mix the instruments up for variety rather than focus on themes. It's an excellent set, if you get a nice price to go for it :3

ok, thank you Sara. I'll ponder a bit more as the organ sound hasn't clicked for me yet. Maybe this mix of instruments could help. The set is at £25 at MDT and £27 with some resellers. Not too bad... 
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Quote from: Papy Oli on January 14, 2012, 02:46:23 AM
ok, thank you Sara. I'll ponder a bit more as the organ sound hasn't clicked for me yet. Maybe this mix of instruments could help. The set is at £25 at MDT and £27 with some resellers. Not too bad...

Hyperion's site should have samples - the ones used are chamber organs, rather intimate sounding and without the large swell of later ones. They might surprise you :)

Linkies.
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Coopmv

Quote from: Papy Oli on January 14, 2012, 02:11:24 AM
Considering this set as the harpsichord samples sound very appealing....However, which portion of the set does the organ music represent please ? Thank you



I bought this set a few years ago.  IIRC, the performance was uniformly excellent though these keyboard works are not as uplifting as those by JS Bach.

Papy Oli

Quote from: Lethevich Dmitriyevna Pettersonova on January 14, 2012, 03:07:05 AM
Hyperion's site should have samples - the ones used are chamber organs, rather intimate sounding and without the large swell of later ones. They might surprise you :)
Linkies.

Thanks for the link. Still not sure though  ;D I'll keep that set up my sleeve and re-assess again in a little while.


Quote from: Coopmv on January 14, 2012, 03:32:08 AM
I bought this set a few years ago.  IIRC, the performance was uniformly excellent though these keyboard works are not as uplifting as those by JS Bach.

thanks Coop.
Olivier

Que

Quote from: Papy Oli on January 14, 2012, 02:11:24 AM
Considering this set as the harpsichord samples sound very appealing....However, which portion of the set does the organ music represent please ? Thank you



I'll go even a bit further than the posters before me: this is a tremendous set!  :) The whole package is perfect: the music, the performances, the used instruments, even the documentation.
Moroney's playing is considered and probing, but yet fresh, very engaging and touching - anything but dull!

Q

Bogey

Quote from: Lethevich Dmitriyevna Pettersonova on January 14, 2012, 01:14:37 AM
Böhm's Mozart series on DG, especially the operas, are really good. With the symphonies I suppose it depends on your temperament for this manner of performance - it's very well done in its style of choice, but for some nowadays this take may be considered a wrong choice. I feel that he did have an affinity with the composer, though, and the early symphonies are meticulously detailed, passionate, and it's not like we're going to have another big band cycle of them again in this style and sound, which makes the recordings valuable.

Just what I was hoping to hear.  Thanks!
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Quote from: ~ Que ~ on January 14, 2012, 12:01:27 PM
The whole package is perfect: the music, the performances, the used instruments,

Are they used? I thought they were original?  ;D

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Quote from: The new erato on January 14, 2012, 01:48:10 PM
Are they used? I thought they were original?  ;D

That's another glorious aspect of HIPPI - they didn't have unused instruments for every performance back then, so they just composed the music for used instruments - they do sound very much different. Well, at least the string instruments do.
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