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[Octave]

Curious about a few more, if anyone has experience to share.

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Schoenberg solo piano by Pi-Hsien Chen
My references are Pollini, Gould, and Paul Jacobs.  I don't know Chen's playing at all.


Two collections including/of Knappertsbusch's Bruckner:
1. COMPLETE RIAS RECORDINGS [w/BPO - Audite]
2. The Music & Arts 6cd box [reissue/remastered/content-rearranged 2011]

Both boxes seem to share both the 30 Jan 1950 #9 and the 8 Jan 1951 #8, with an extra #9 from 28 Jan 1950 in the RIAS box.  I guess I am inclined to get both (voila), but if the other Bruckner in the M&A box is not all that essential, and the non-Bruckner from the RIAS set is fantastic, or vice versa, that might set some priorities.  Also I am idly curious about the relative quality of sound in the overlapping #8/9.  I understand Kna's Bruckner has occult sway for those who dig it.  Some friends have told me I am missing out bigtime if I skip him... 

[trung224]

Curious about a few more, if anyone has experience to share.



Two collections including/of Knappertsbusch's Bruckner:
1. COMPLETE RIAS RECORDINGS [w/BPO - Audite]
2. The Music & Arts 6cd box [reissue/remastered/content-rearranged 2011]

Both boxes seem to share both the 30 Jan 1950 #9 and the 8 Jan 1951 #8, with an extra #9 from 28 Jan 1950 in the RIAS box.  I guess I am inclined to get both (voila), but if the other Bruckner in the M&A box is not all that essential, and the non-Bruckner from the RIAS set is fantastic, or vice versa, that might set some priorities.  Also I am idly curious about the relative quality of sound in the overlapping #8/9.  I understand Kna's Bruckner has occult sway for those who dig it.  Some friends have told me I am missing out bigtime if I skip him...

Knappertsbusch is one of my absolute Brucknerian. Despite his reputation as the slow-poke conductor, he  (at least in live performance) conducts Bruckner's music fast, urgent and full of improvision, the quality somewhat absents in Bruckner's performances today. I think you should buy the Music and Arts box, it contains most of Knappertsbusch' best Bruckner performance, though sadly Music and Arts omitted the live Third with NDR Orchestra for the need-for-speed one with Munich Orchestra. The transfer is quite good, except the Forth and the climax in Adagio of the Seventh. Audite' remaster is somewhat better, but only in small margin.
   Another quality you should go with Knappertsbusch is that he favors the usually "corrupted or re-orchestrated" but interesting version by Rättig (No.3),   Schalk ( No.4,No.5), Gutmann (no.7) and Löwe (No.9), Oberleithner-Schalk (No. 8 )

[Sergeant Rock]

Not yet, but if it is truly comprehensive, the mind boggles at the goodies to be had. 

If the HMV JP page is correct and there are only 49 CDs in the box, then, no, it won't be comprehensive. I own 63 CDs of Columbia/Sony Szell recordings and that isn't everything that's been released on CD (I'm missing his Bizet and Schubert among other things).

Sarge

[Octave]

Trung, thanks very much for your help and interesting comments on Kna's Bruckner.

While the following might be a bit of a no-brainer.....



I already own the Phantasm ART OF FUGUE (on the left), and I think it's gorgeous; I decided on that one over Fretwork's based on the recommendation of an acquaintance, but I think I'm viol-mad enough to want Fretwork's considerably longer interpretation of the piece, unless it's really simply outdone by the Phantasm (as my acquaintance suggested).  I have loved Fretwork recordings of other repertoire, of course.

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If anyone happens to have a lead on cheaper copies of this disc (via Amazon MP-US, this disc tends to be $50 new, ouch), it would be nice to know about them.  In fact, I've already found alternatives, even just at Amazon UK....strange, I thought my last/recent search had turned up nothing.

I am becoming interested in Liszt's later music, and any leads to essential works and recordings would be most appreciated; I'm sure such resources already exist on the board and in the composer threads, which is where I'll be checking.  But please feel free to PM me if you know this terrain very well already and have some suggestions!  One snort thread I've been getting some ideas from is the "Late Liszt List" thread:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7421.0.html

[Opus106]

If anyone happens to have a lead on cheaper copies of this disc (via Amazon MP-US, this disc tends to be $50 new, ouch), it would be nice to know about them.

Cheaper? Yes: https://outhere-music.com/store-ZZT040902/.

[DavidRoss]

I already own the Phantasm ART OF FUGUE (on the left), and I think it's gorgeous; I decided on that one over Fretwork's based on the recommendation of an acquaintance, but I think I'm viol-mad enough to want Fretwork's considerably longer interpretation of the piece, unless it's really simply outdone by the Phantasm (as my acquaintance suggested).  I have loved Fretwork recordings of other repertoire, of course.

I like them both and prefer whichever one I'm listening to at the time. Phantasm's sound is fuller despite fewer voices, their performance style more interventionist -- irritatingly so at times.

[Karl Henning]

Trung, thanks very much for your help and interesting comments on Kna's Bruckner.

While the following might be a bit of a no-brainer.....



I already own the Phantasm ART OF FUGUE (on the left), and I think it's gorgeous; I decided on that one over Fretwork's based on the recommendation of an acquaintance, but I think I'm viol-mad enough to want Fretwork's considerably longer interpretation of the piece, unless it's really simply outdone by the Phantasm (as my acquaintance suggested).  I have loved Fretwork recordings of other repertoire, of course.

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If anyone happens to have a lead on cheaper copies of this disc (via Amazon MP-US, this disc tends to be $50 new, ouch), it would be nice to know about them.  In fact, I've already found alternatives, even just at Amazon UK....strange, I thought my last/recent search had turned up nothing.

I am becoming interested in Liszt's later music, and any leads to essential works and recordings would be most appreciated; I'm sure such resources already exist on the board and in the composer threads, which is where I'll be checking.  But please feel free to PM me if you know this terrain very well already and have some suggestions!  One snort thread I've been getting some ideas from is the "Late Liszt List" thread:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7421.0.html

FWIW, I like both the Fretwork recording, and (very much) the Liszt Pièces tardives[/] disc.

[Bogey]

I thought I saw someone mention this cd set recently?  Thoughts?

[Daverz]

I thought I saw someone mention this cd set recently?  Thoughts?

The "Archduke" is much loved old friend, but I haven't heard the rest.

[Bogey]

The "Archduke" is much loved old friend, but I haven't heard the rest.

I will pay $16 any time of the day for a decent Op. 97.  Just popped on my wishlist for a near future purchase.  Thanks!:)

[Todd]

I thought I saw someone mention this cd set recently?  Thoughts?

A very nice set.  A bit "rougher" than the BAT recordings I usually listen to (but then, isn't everything?), but a nice change of pace.  The Schubert is quite good, too.

[Mirror Image]

Since I admire and love Szymanowski's music, I'm definitely considering this set:

[Bogey]

A very nice set.  A bit "rougher" than the BAT recordings I usually listen to (but then, isn't everything?), but a nice change of pace.  The Schubert is quite good, too.

Big BAT fan here.  Happy that the Schubert holds up as well.

[Leo K.]

I'm considering the Ned Rorem Naxos box, and I'm looking for an excellent Dvorak piano concerto recording.

[Karl Henning]

. . . and I'm looking for an excellent Dvorak piano concerto recording.

This was my first, and remains my favorite:

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[Brian]

I'm considering the Ned Rorem Naxos box, and I'm looking for an excellent Dvorak piano concerto recording.

Your best choices:
- Richter on EMI, as Karl hints above. It truly is a classic performance. Paired with Schubert
- Aimard on Warner, with Harnoncourt conducting. Not "HIP" - it's with the Concertgebouw - and another classic, paired with Dvorak's "Golden Spinning Wheel", both in superior sound to Richter
- Jando on Naxos. Probably not as poetic as Richter or thrilling as Aimard, but still extremely good and built right. Paired with Dvorak's "Water Goblin"

[Karl Henning]

- Aimard on Warner, with Harnoncourt conducting. Not "HIP" - it's with the Concertgebouw - and another classic, paired with Dvorak's "Golden Spinning Wheel", both in superior sound to Richter

I've got that one (in the back of my mind, I remembered fetching in the 100th Anniversary Concertos box), but I don't think I;ve listened to it yet!

[jlaurson]

I'm considering the Ned Rorem Naxos box, and I'm looking for an excellent Dvorak piano concerto recording.

Depends a little on which version you are looking for... the Wilem (Vilém) Kurz revision (Firkusny recorded it that way, ditto Moravec) or the original or a mix (Ohlsson). Then again, no it doesn't: The versions are too damn similar (affect only the solo part)... and in any case Harnoncourt / Aimard is really the only recording of either version (they opt for the original, which also largely Richter's approach) that makes the concerto sound absolutely believable, and not like a compromise. 


A. Dvořák
Piano Concerto
Aimard / Harnoncourt / RCO
Warner
German link - UK link

see also: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/02/dvok-with-czech-accent.html

[Todd]

Since I admire and love Szymanowski's music, I'm definitely considering this set:

Jones is good.  Sinae Lee is better, at least if you want only one set.

[Mirror Image]

Jones is good.  Sinae Lee is better, at least if you want only one set.

You own both sets?