What you like and dislike about GMG

[ibanezmonster]

Karl, your inbox is full!

This is what I sent:

I know this depends on many factors, but how long should I keep some of these clarinet notes sustained at the maximum? Generally, I'm using mid-register at quiet dynamics; some parts I may not be able to do whatever it's called (the trick to getting seamless sustain by sustaining a note using one instrument and then having another of the same instrument play the same note right before the other one stops- you know what I mean), which is why I'm asking.

Some of these single sustained notes are around 20 seconds long- should this be a concern?

[Karl Henning]

Karl, your inbox is full!

Yes, my subscription is no longer automated . . . .

[Karl Henning]

20 seconds is a long note!

[ibanezmonster]

20 seconds is a long note!

Hmm... I might have to see about using two (as mentioned above) if possible.

[Henk]

No, I don't think Henk conceited, not though there was a time when he thought he was the only soul who could save GMG from itself : )

It's a matter of communication, Karl, instead of moral values. And I'm glad we communicate.

[DavidRoss]

Someone's been taking Adorno too seriously (i.e. at all seriously)

How nice to see that you and I agree about some things. Ain't it grand to find common ground?

If this is the "Bitch about GMG thread," I have to take a break from the site from time to time when the critical mass of high-post-count contributors who vastly overestimate their own expertise on every imaginable subject exceeds my tolerance threshold. The "ignore" feature helps.

I keep coming back, however, because of the many here with admirable qualities of heart and mind who graciously share their knowledge and wisdom with the rest of us. Thanks, y'all!

[Lethevich]

@Henk: how can late Romantic music be considered nationalistic when it has such a wide-spread audience? Where is the nationalism, for example, in a French or Australian person enjoying the music of a Swedish composer.

[drogulus]

    Some composers thought of themselves as nationalists. I don't see this as binding on listeners any more than the use of themes of a religious or classical nature. It might be of some interest to explore the program of the composer, even when the composer disavows it. A better reason to dislike late Romanticism is the hypertrophied structure and orchestration, as well the the emotional excess involved.

    Likes: Hypertrophied structure and orchestration, as well the the emotional excess involved.

    Dislikes: Not very much.

[Opus106]

@Henk: how can late Romantic music be considered nationalistic when it has such a wide-spread audience? Where is the nationalism, for example, in a French or Australian person enjoying the music of a Swedish composer.

So when an atheist enjoys (at some level) a Bach cantata, does it somehow relieve it off its original purpose as something composed for liturgy?

[Gurn Blanston]

Do we feel yet as though this fascinating discussion has earned a thread of its own? That's one of the things that I usually like about GMG; we start enough threads that I can figure out which ones to avoid.   

[Sammy]

So when an atheist enjoys (at some level) a Bach cantata, does it somehow relieve it off its original purpose as something composed for liturgy?

The liturgy, in and of itself, means nothing to me.  However, it does bespeak a spirituality and depth of emotion that I can easily identify with.  Overall, I think that an atheist can enjoy a religious work just as much as the believer.

[Lethevich]

So when an atheist enjoys (at some level) a Bach cantata, does it somehow relieve it off its original purpose as something composed for liturgy?

I think that differing are degrees in this - the now outdated nationalist urgings of a work I mght compare to, for example, a composition intended to have a moment to strike fear into the audience via a dissonnance at that time unheard of nowadays is enjoyed as simply another piece of music, with its daring qualities unrecognised.

Your religion example I find might have a parallel in someone listening to a work in a different language, or composed by a composer with different ideals (either a full-blown Romantic, or an elitist patron of the aristocracy). As a listener I buy into the conviction of the sentiment, and will enjoy its fruit, even though its inspiration I can only artifically replicate rather than innately feel. With religious works I appreciate them almost in "Virtual PC" mode. I might try to boot up into a Christian mind-set when playing a sacred work in the same way I might change operating system to run a program written for a different system architecture. (Terrible comparisons alert!)

[Opus106]

I think that differing are degrees in this - the now outdated nationalist urgings of a work I mght compare to, for example, a composition intended to have a moment to strike fear into the audience via a dissonnance at that time unheard of nowadays is enjoyed as simply another piece of music, with its daring qualities unrecognised.

Your religion example I find might have a parallel in someone listening to a work in a different language, or composed by a composer with different ideals (either a full-blown Romantic, or an elitist patron of the aristocracy). As a listener I buy into the conviction of the sentiment, and will enjoy its fruit, even though its inspiration I can only artifically replicate rather than innately feel.

The short-term (and the outdated) and the eternal (or at least longer-lasting and still somewhat relevant). Gotcha.

With religious works I appreciate them almost in "Virtual PC" mode. I might try to boot up into a Christian mind-set when playing a sacred work in the same way I might change operating system to run a program written for a different system architecture. (Terrible comparisons alert!)

I'll just pretend that I didn't read that part.

[Que]

Do we feel yet as though this fascinating discussion has earned a thread of its own? That's one of the things that I usually like about GMG; we start enough threads that I can figure out which ones to avoid.   

Like this one - I already regret posting in it.

Q

[DavidW]

Did Lethe just compare choice of operating system with religion?  Must be a linux user!

[drogulus]

even though its inspiration I can only artifically replicate rather than innately feel.

     You're kidding, right?

[Lethevich]

     You're kidding, right?

Autism 4 lyfe~

[drogulus]

Autism 4 lyfe~

     I didn't make myself clear. Just because "they" don't know they're "faking it" doesn't mean they aren't.

[DavidRoss]

Did Lethe just compare choice of operating system with religion?  Must be a linux user!

Hah!  But does the Linux cult have a god comparable to Apple's Jobs?

[DavidW]

Hah!  But does the Linux cult have a god comparable to Apple's Jobs?

Richard Stallman, shall he always show us the way. 0:)