So I Like This Woman At Work...

[CriticalI]

While you, of course, don't fall in that category, right?

No - like pretty much everyone on this forum, I'm a freak

[DavidW]

I've been joking lately that I'm ready to go to the 'truckstop'... yea,... you know, the 'truckstop'? But... you know,... that's not me,... but, this sucks, but,... what does one do? With girls, apparently, you need one of three things:

1) Money
2) Dance
3) RIDICULOUSLY good looking

Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine

[DavidRoss]

Seeing Dave's quote of part of snyppy's rant, I admit I have no idea what girls want. Cyndi Lauper says they just want to have fun and that seems about right as I recall. To different girls, different things seem fun.

Women, on the other hand, want authenticity, passion, compassion, strength, consistency (coupled with spontaneity), humor, grace, wit, forgiveness, responsibility, and a spiritually centered soul able to touch their own (the root of all the rest).

If you want a good relationship--which depends partly on attracting a good woman--you must first get good. That will take time, and since you're not there yet, while you're working on it you might as well work on training yourself for a valuable profession and on finding a good therapist. (And please note, this is serious advice and neither a joke nor a put down. Make of it what you will.)

[TheGSMoeller]

Every time I see this thread's title, I keep imagining its a finish the sentence type thread.


So I like this woman at work...

...and her name is Steven.

[DavidRoss]

Every time I see this thread's title, I keep imagining its a finish the sentence type thread.


So I like this woman at work...

...and her name is Steven.

I once had a crush on a gorgeous girl named Michael.

[snyprrr]

Picture a bell graph which represents population distribution of personality characteristics and interests. Most people are in that big central section; they're all pretty much interchangable. They meet and say, "Hey, I'm normal. You're normal too. Let's do it." Those at the ends of the graph are a small minority, and have a much reduced chance of finding a similar partner, especially considering that normal is pretty much all the same, while weird comes in almost infinite varieties. There's no fighting the math....

This is no joke: I have accidentally asked HOW MANY lesbians out this year ALONE?? Yea, the problem is, is, that most of us are really probably pretty 'normal', though, I totally agree that we most all here have... uh... mm.... 'proclivities',... yukk, maybe a better word.

Let's just say that, short of a hot violist in the Ensemble Intercontemporain, I'm not going to be finding a female who likes Xenakis, for instance.

Naturally. No general problem there.


However, when women are 'freaks', well, that's a whole other kettle of fish. So, and henceforth and forthwith, the freaky girls that are allotted to OUR Bell Curve are going to be mostly homely, shorthaired, fat, lesbians that we can have great conversation with about all things ephemeral.

Yay.

AT LEAST,.. that has been my experience of late.


Any woman REMOTELY ATTRACTIVE,... and I do mean remotely, are treating me like Skreech McErkle,... and, just for context, let's say I'm about Greg's handsomisity-quotient, (being a compliment, that is!!!) so, frankly, I should be able to at least get a plain-to-very-attractive young lady. (cue Belushi) Plain is now the new SuperHottt, so, the girls you could get on yesterday's game... well, ha... ha,...

BUT NOOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOOO-OOOOOO


I was obviously up too latte last night, and I don't really need to start that temple throb this early in the day.


aye,... let the pain flow my fellow... uh... fellows!!



I've been in too many rooms filled with too many women and not enough men. The palpable oppressiveness of too much estrogen in the atmosphere is exhaustingly wearying for someone as sensitive as moi.













I guess one of the man-killing aspects of all this is that when women got 'liberated', they began filling all the traditional male roles, with, just as one example, the wearing of suits. They partook of OUR stuff. And so, we were supposed to partake of THEIR stuff. But wait, for a girl to wear a suit, well, that's mighty empowering, but,... mm,... forgive me,... for a man to don a tutu is , well, either comical or tragic. Women get a notch UP in this game; we get the notch DOWN.

For a man, this 'equality' is a trip to the neuter-ist.

Fuck that bitches!!


Don't MAKE me long for the 'old days'.






aaaaaaaaaaanyhow, back to the topic....


Oh, and here's another juicy bit of horror/reality that has set in. With all this freedom now, women... tee hee... have chosen NOT to have other women as friends (cux, let's be honest, women are catty bitch hoes (HEY, that's what THEY tell me!!)), so, women now have 'stables' of males hypnotized into the FriendZone,....soooooo, ergo, women have no women friends to hook you up with,... sooooooo, all you have is a bunch of women with a stable of men on a leash. Picture two women meeting at the mall, both walking their leashed stable. They'll talk about the bad boy they fucked right in front of you,... HA, but YOUUUUUUUUUU still think you have a shot.


Oh, I was such a doh! boy in my youth (naive is more like it).


ok, I'm starting to weep. Time to do something manly.

[Mirror Image]

One thing that frustrates me is that many women that are very attractive go for these "bad boy" types, which never end on good terms (there are exceptions I'm sure). These women continue to get hurt over and over again and it's like "WTF? Why are you putting yourself through all of this heartbreak for?" Perhaps these women think they can tame a wild boar? In my experience, once a wild boar, always a wild boar. Ladies need to quit this endless charade and open their eyes a little more to what guys like me can offer them: intelligent/stimulating conversation, lots of laughs (I've been told by pretty much everyone that has known me I'm the funniest person they ever met), an occasional passionate/fierce debate (helps keep that intensity alive), and, if I am truly in love with this woman, all of the compassion, genunine honesty, and love she could ever want in another human being.

[Opus106]

[Referring to snyprr's post, ofcourse]

And one wonders why there aren't (m)any members of the fairer sex frequenting this forum.

Sir, you make YouTube comments look like civilised conversations.

[madaboutmahler]

John, great post. I see exactly what you mean, I come across plenty of examples at school every day!! The type of girls you talk about in your post I tend to just try to stay away from, they really are not the nicest.... and they generally irritate me with their attention seeking and stroppiness....
Luckily for me, I never seem to be attracted to these types.  The girls I like are always those that show interest in my work and music, pay me attention (SMILES! ), and have a very kind, and quite shy nature. Luckily, there are many that have all these wonderful qualities.

[ibanezmonster]

You will be the one driving her pregnant ass to the hospital, but some other bad boy did the deed.

And that guy gets his life ruined by 18 years of child support payments.

Since you're tuned into this thread, I have a question about Tekh before I proceed with reading the score: is the score written at exact pitch or is it an octave lower? (if it's an octave lower, the first chord isn't possible). If it's exact pitch, you might want to transpose the whole thing up an octave, since it's customary to write guitar music an octave higher.

[Mirror Image]

And that guy gets his life ruined by 18 years of child support payments.

Bingo! I can't tell you how many "mistakes" like this happen across the United States. It's as if these people never heard of contraception.

[snyprrr]

And that guy gets his life ruined by 18 years of child support payments.

Since you're tuned into this thread, I have a question about Tekh before I proceed with reading the score: is the score written at exact pitch or is it an octave lower? (if it's an octave lower, the first chord isn't possible). If it's exact pitch, you might want to transpose the whole thing up an octave, since it's customary to write guitar music an octave higher.

uh... ... whaaaa?aaa ,.... no,... uh,... I did not know that,... uh boy ,... no, the first chord (the sort of 'G' chord) should be played starting with the low 'G' note on the 6th string. All the notes that look like this:

-
-
-
O

should be played as a low, open 6th string (you'll see them copiously on the first lines).


I thought 'Middle C' was this:

X
1 (B string)
X
X
X
X

No?


aye aye aye


I'm going to go look for a score to Requerdos de la Ambra (whatever). It's in 'e' or 'a', right? This I have to see.


ohhhh,... holding off temple throb.

[ibanezmonster]

uh... ... whaaaa?aaa ,.... no,... uh,... I did not know that,... uh boy ,... no, the first chord (the sort of 'G' chord) should be played starting with the low 'G' note on the 6th string. All the notes that look like this:

-
-
-
O

should be played as a low, open 6th string (you'll see them copiously on the first lines).


I thought 'Middle C' was this:

X
1 (B string)
X
X
X
X

No?


aye aye aye


I'm going to go look for a score to Requerdos de la Ambra (whatever). It's in 'e' or 'a', right? This I have to see.


ohhhh,... holding off temple throb.

Oooppss... my mistake.
Okay, not sure what I was thinking. Yes, that's G A D- written correctly and very much possible. And yes, what you wrote is middle C.
Just ignore me for now so you don't get a heart attack. 

[Mirror Image]

John, great post. I see exactly what you mean, I come across plenty of examples at school every day!! The type of girls you talk about in your post I tend to just try to stay away from, they really are not the nicest.... and they generally irritate me with their attention seeking and stroppiness....
Luckily for me, I never seem to be attracted to these types.  The girls I like are always those that show interest in my work and music, pay me attention (SMILES! ), and have a very kind, and quite shy nature. Luckily, there are many that have all these wonderful qualities.

I think as you get older you will realize that a woman doesn't need to like the same music as you do nor does she necessarily have to like the music you compose. These things can easily be bypassed as long as there's an honest communication between the two of you and you have other things in common. As you know, I'm passionate about music, but it's certainly not everything and I don't think it would be a good idea to make music your most important topic of interest when talking with a woman. Trust me, there are plenty of other things to talk about. If anything, women love guys that have a sense of humor. If you can make her laugh, then a lot of your work is already done. It's a balancing act between goofy conversation and serious conversation. If she can see you have no problems expressing yourself, then prepare for what could be a long, fruitful relationship. Unfortunately, for me, this just hasn't happened yet, but I'm optimistic.

[snyprrr]

Oooppss... my mistake.
Okay, not sure what I was thinking. Yes, that's G A D- written correctly and very much possible. And yes, what you wrote is middle C.
Just ignore me for now so you don't get a heart attack. 

Uh YEAH!! Had me goin' there, haha!! I was like whaaa??... haha, oy,... surely, if your name was Gregina, I'd believe anything you'd say, haha!!

[DavidRoss]

I think as you get older you will realize that a woman doesn't need to like the same music as you do nor does she necessarily have to like the music you compose. These things can easily be bypassed as long as there's an honest communication between the two of you and you have other things in common. As you know, I'm passionate about music, but it's certainly not everything and I don't think it would be a good idea to make music your most important topic of interest when talking with a woman. Trust me, there are plenty of other things to talk about. If anything, women love guys that have a sense of humor. If you can make her laugh, then a lot of your work is already done. It's a balancing act between goofy conversation and serious conversation. If she can see you have no problems expressing yourself, then prepare for what could be a long, fruitful relationship. Unfortunately, for me, this just hasn't happened yet, but I'm optimistic.

Weren't you just complaining about your disappointing lack of success in relationships? [insert irony emoticon]

A good relationship has nothing to do with conning some poor victim into liking whoever you're pretending to be. It has everything to do with being yourself. If you're inauthentic, you don't stand a chance in hell of attracting someone who will enjoy you for who you are instead of being angry with you because you're not the guy she thought you were.

[snyprrr]

Weren't you just complaining about your disappointing lack of success in relationships? [insert irony emoticon]

A good relationship has nothing to do with conning some poor victim into liking whoever you're pretending to be. It has everything to do with being yourself. If you're inauthentic, you don't stand a chance in hell of attracting someone who will enjoy you for who you are instead of being angry with you because you're not the guy she thought you were.

Yea, that's NOT working, haha.

I am currently preaching DON'T be yourself, especially if you are like one of us who listen to freaky music (anything girls don't like, ergo, Classical). DON'T bring up Mahler to a woman! And please, DON'T bring up Stockhausen or anything like that. You might as well show her your COMIC BOOK COLLECTION (thank God I don't have one of those,... whew, dodged a bullet on that one!!)!!

No, 'being myself' has been berry berry bad for me in that respect. I am nurturing a new snyprrr-model for female consumption,... though, I don't know how it will work. At the first mention of some bullshit, will I be able to... uh... 'listen', or will I just give up?

Fact is, all this 'liberation' hasn't given the women I know the will or ability to discuss the kinds of things that I can with a man. And, because men have been so feminized, it's hard finding a real man anymore too. Wah!!


I am spending waaay too much of my precious bitter energy on this Thread. Hmm.

[Florestan]

Yea, that's NOT working, haha.
[...]

May I ask you how old you are? Just curious, no specific reason.

[Mirror Image]

Weren't you just complaining about your disappointing lack of success in relationships? [insert irony emoticon]

A good relationship has nothing to do with conning some poor victim into liking whoever you're pretending to be. It has everything to do with being yourself. If you're inauthentic, you don't stand a chance in hell of attracting someone who will enjoy you for who you are instead of being angry with you because you're not the guy she thought you were.

I've had several relationships, Dave. It's just right now I'm in a rut. I also never said anything about "pretending" to be anybody. Where did that come from? I'm as authentic as they come. In fact, I pride myself on being completely honest with women. It just seems that a lot of them don't have the intellectual capacity to hold a conversation of depth. Most of the women I meet these days come across superficial and completely vain. Like I said, I'm still looking and I'm optimistic that I'll find someone. I'm really in no rush to meet a woman, but if it happens and there's a spark there, then I'll definitely pursue it.

[madaboutmahler]

I do see what you mean, John. However, I think I would get on far better and have a far more successful relationship with someone who either is a musician, or someone who at least enjoys classical music. Music is my life, and the person I'm with I would really want to share that with. Ok, maybe my ideal girlfriend would not have to be Mahler-mad (for example), but if she's a musician too, I feel we'd understand eachother so much more, and we could do so many more things together, like going to concerts etc. It's the same with my friends, I find it difficult to get along with people who are dismissive of classical music. Most of my friends are musicians. Music is not all we talk about, but something we always enjoy talking about!! I really love talking to people who enjoy this music as much as I do.