Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

[Karl Henning]

Everybody in this corrupt administration has conflicts of interest!

Giuliani works for foreign clients while serving as Trump's attorney

[eljr]

Everybody in this corrupt administration has conflicts of interest!

Giuliani works for foreign clients while serving as Trump's attorney

Rudy is Trump's attorney in name only.

Rudy is in truth nothing but one of Trump's ringmasters in the Greatest Show on Earth.

[zamyrabyrd]

Why have blacks not had farms for generations?

Same here. Trumpets think that affirmative action discriminates against those that have all the advantages for generations.
Unless you prefer reparations to quotas you should support quotas or, SHUT UP about equal opportunity nonsense.

BTW, How's that air conditioner working? 

I don't have an air conditioner, another of your off the wall remarks.

South Africa is a very complex subject including the rout of the Boers by the British but black tribes who lived in that sparsely populated area were driven out by stronger tribes.  There weren't large "farms" when the Dutch got there which for better or worse, there weren't in Zimbabwe either. Confiscation didn't improve things, in fact, ushered in abject poverty. This is happening now in South Africa, the results of reverse discrimination:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-africa-farm-attacks-brutal-crimes-landowners-face/news-story/dfaabafca743056b6d6656ea1fff49eb

South African farmers have been subjected to an escalating campaign of attacks characterised by extreme brutality, rape and torture, with 82 people killed in a record 423 incidents last year, according to AfriForum, a rights group representing primarily the white Afrikaner minority.

[Christo]

Now there is reverse discrimination in South Africa

Not very well informed about the world, are you? This is just another way of saying propaganda and fake news are more in your daily diet than news.

[milk]

Not very well informed about the world, are you? This is just another way of saying propaganda and fake news are more in your daily diet than news.

Getting their news from infowars I suppose. And Russian bots. 

[eljr]

I don't have an air conditioner,

How come? Too expensive for you?

[zamyrabyrd]

Not very well informed about the world, are you? This is just another way of saying propaganda and fake news are more in your daily diet than news.

You are simply in denial. In your world ONLY white people can be racist. Why don't you read about albino people in Africa and the horror they go through? Human beings share the same traits all around. The bigger groups scorn and persecute the smaller and weaker ones.

[zamyrabyrd]

How come? Too expensive for you?

Maybe you can answer first why you thought I had an air conditioner in the first place or what relevance having one has to do with this thread?

[Karl Henning]

Because he's a President who antagonizes our allies, and cozies up to America's enemies.  He's such a tool.

Trump says meeting with Putin may be easier than this week's NATO summit

[drogulus]

     Trump's Supreme Court pick is against investigating or prosecuting a sitting president

     Trump just might have saved Roe in order to get a judge that doesn't believe he should be prosecuted while he infests the office of President, something that isn't going to happen in any case.

     Kavanaugh has a fair argument against indictment and a poor argument against investigation by a special counsel. TrumPutin is a good example of the kind of investigation that must proceed whether a President is involved or not. Are you supposed to not conduct the most important DOJ investigation in history because of where it might lead?

     One more word on the treason issue. The word itself appears to have magical properties, so that its vaguely archaic resonance is somehow transmuted into the deep unlikelihood that the acts it applies to have been committed. I think the deep unlikelihood that Trump is a pawn of Putin is questionable. I don't think Brennan would go so far because he's just speculating. It looks like he's warning.

[André]

Would a Chavez or Castro be designated as white or brown? Here is where the silliness comes in. Native Americans, North or South, used to be regarded as a form of Asiatic with their more or less black hair and lack of folds iabove their eyes. People of East Asian origin conceivably did not spend as much time in the sun so they are lumped in the category of "white" as regards privileges and demands for sympathy. So in principle tanned Causasians should also be granted a designation of their own.  Ayran racial theory was also phony and did cause no end of trouble as these arbitrary groupings are doing now.

You very clumsily try to get around the fact that you flatly declared them all to be as white as any spanish descendant could be.

Your even more clumsy attempt to play around shades of brown due to the sun or whatnot simply highlights your innate racism: making distinctions based on physical differences: folds above the eyes, skin colour. The simple truth is that you don't want to be near people you deem inferior.

[eljr]

Maybe you can answer first why you thought I had an air conditioner in the first place or what relevance having one has to do with this thread?

My point was clear.

It is easy to condemn others for actions that you yourself might take if you lived the same life as those you persecute.

As an American you likely live SIGNIFICANTLY better than these poor people you judge.

This is not deep stuff, maybe you are just not engaged, just wanted to champion hatred and arrogance. ?

[ritter]

Would a Chavez or Castro be designated as white or brown?

Not that it's of any relevance to a discussion about the current U.S. presidency, but this point requires some clarification.

Venezuela is probably the country in America (I'd say the world) where the mixing of races ("mestizaje" is the Spanish word) has been most widespread. There's a very scant "pure" Indian population (deep in the Amazon jungle and in some areas of the Northwest), and "pure" blacks (i.e. descendants of slaves brought from Africa) are only to be seen in one specific, small area (Barlovento, where the cocoa plantations are). Also, nowadays people of purely European descent are usually only first or second  generation immigrants from Europe (Venezuela admitted hordes of immigrants between ca. 1945 through the late 70s). The overwhelming majority of Venezuelan families (in all levels of society) can claim heritage from European (or Middle Eastern in some cases), Indian and African stock. So it's not unusual to see sets of siblings where one brother or sister is blond with blue eyes, another one is pale white with jet black hair and a third has a deeper tone of skin and some Indian traits. This is something we Venezuelans are rather proud of, and has led to a society in which racism is only a marginal problem.

Mr. Chávez , unfortunately, did stir the racial issue in his "revolution": the white element in Venezuela was equated with the hated Western world, and therefore was a negative influence. Surprisingly , one of the first reactions was that he was accused of being an exception in the racial melting pot that is Venezuela: he was supposed to be a "zambo", i.e. a person of only African and Indian descent, with no European blood flowing in his veins.

Fidel Castro, AFAIK, was descended from Spanish immigrants to Cuba (his father emigrated from Galicia in Spain when Cuba was already independent). But me not being Cuban, I don't have all the details...

Regards,

[SimonNZ]

Donald Trump's former driver sues over unpaid wages

"Donald Trump's former personal driver has sued the president's family business for thousands of hours of unpaid overtime, according to a lawsuit filed in New York on Monday.

Noel Cintron, who worked as Trump's driver for more than 25 years, said he was owed 3,300 hours of uncompensated overtime from his last six years on the job.

Cintron is suing the Trump Organization for lost wages and damages, stating: "In an utterly callous display of unwarranted privilege and entitlement and without even a minimal sense of noblesse oblige President Donald Trump has, through the defendant entities, exploited and denied significant wages to his own longstanding personal driver."

[SimonNZ]

US embassy warns Americans in London to 'keep a low profile' during Trump visit

"Americans in the UK have been warned to "keep a low profile" during this week's visit of their president, Donald Trump, as the US embassy in London says demonstrations against the event could turn violent.

On Tuesday, officials said the demonstrations would probably be focused on the centre of the UK capital, despite the fact that Trump is spending only a short time there, but added others had also been planned over the three days from Wednesday.

"Be aware of your surroundings [and] exercise caution if unexpectedly in the vicinity of large gatherings that may become violent," the US embassy warned."

[Christo]

You are simply in denial.

I happen to be better informed, visiting the country, following the news in Afrikaans as well, having had both South-African and Dutch students investigate 'plaasmoorde' for over two decades. You're simply wrong, too fond of fake news.

[vandermolen]

US embassy warns Americans in London to 'keep a low profile' during Trump visit

"Americans in the UK have been warned to "keep a low profile" during this week's visit of their president, Donald Trump, as the US embassy in London says demonstrations against the event could turn violent.

On Tuesday, officials said the demonstrations would probably be focused on the centre of the UK capital, despite the fact that Trump is spending only a short time there, but added others had also been planned over the three days from Wednesday.

"Be aware of your surroundings [and] exercise caution if unexpectedly in the vicinity of large gatherings that may become violent," the US embassy warned."

This sounds a bit over-the-top to me. I can't imagine Americans being targeted in London - we don't want to lose all our allies! Maybe it just means keep out of areas where there might be trouble. Anyway, people will be too busy, at least tonight, watching the World Cup.

[zamyrabyrd]

You very clumsily try to get around the fact that you flatly declared them all to be as white as any spanish descendant could be.

Please read Ritter's latest post, who happens to be Venezuelan. I never said South or Central Americans were ALL white. I wrote that Native Americans used to be designated as Asian. The main difference between them and East Asian seems to be generations staying out in the sun more.

Your even more clumsy attempt to play around shades of brown due to the sun or whatnot simply highlights your innate racism: making distinctions based on physical differences: folds above the eyes, skin colour. The simple truth is that you don't want to be near people you deem inferior.

"Shades of brown" make the argument even siller. The simple truth is YOU don't want to be around Hillary Clinton's "deplorables". Their blue collar sweat offends your nose. You don't want to believe there are so many of them, half the country, who voted in a non-elitist president, which really irks the heck out of the likes of you.

Bernie Sanders, worth a few million, would have been a false flag appealing to that voter aggregate but would have had a better chance against Hillary for that reason, his seeming to espouse the needs of the working class. It has come out that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was really born with a silver spoon in her mouth, lived in upscale Westchester, not the Bronx. Maybe she thinks she is a new Eva Peron in promising freebies to everyone.

The real bifurcation in the US is not split upon party lines but is populist vs. elitist. Racist and feminist politics have played their tired cards too many times. Amy Coney Barrett is yet another female foil (like Sarah Palin) a religious conservative, to those smut speaking harridans. Hillary and her like can't believe that all other women are not wearing shorts, pantsuits, topped by a pink pussy hat and shouting obscenities. This I find the biggest joke of all.

[zamyrabyrd]

I happen to be better informed, visiting the country, following the news in Afrikaans as well, having had both South-African and Dutch students investigate 'plaasmoorde' for over two decades. You're simply wrong, too fond of fake news.

So reports of murder and inverse discrimination are all lies? Please inform otherwise if you believe them to be false. Land confiscation was already announced. Is that supposed to be OK?

[eljr]

Please read Ritter's latest post, who happens to be Venezuelan. I never said South or Central Americans were ALL white. I wrote that Native Americans used to be designated as Asian. The main difference between them and East Asian seems to be generations staying out in the sun more.

"Shades of brown" make the argument even siller. The simple truth is YOU don't want to be around Hillary Clinton's "deplorables". Their blue collar sweat offends your nose. You don't want to believe there are so many of them, half the country, who voted in a non-elitist president, which really irks the heck out of the likes of you.

Bernie Sanders, worth a few million, would have been a false flag appealing to that voter aggregate but would have had a better chance against Hillary for that reason, his seeming to espouse the needs of the working class. It has come out that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was really born with a silver spoon in her mouth, lived in upscale Westchester, not the Bronx. Maybe she thinks she is a new Eva Peron in promising freebies to everyone.

The real bifurcation in the US is not split upon party lines but is populist vs. elitist. Racist and feminist politics have played their tired cards too many times. Amy Coney Barrett is yet another female foil (like Sarah Palin) a religious conservative, to those smut speaking harridans. Hillary and her like can't believe that all other women are not wearing shorts, pantsuits, topped by a pink pussy hat and shouting obscenities. This I find the biggest joke of all.

Elitist's, as you use the term, exist in the imagination of the populists.
In reality they are few and far between and are from both political parties.

I do need ask, what is a pink pussy hat?

let's face it, you feel victimized because people of color and other minorities (like gays) are slowly acquiring the same rights as you.

Like a jealous child are the Trumpets.

As Sarah Palin did so well, Trump gives you absolution for you failed lives. What makes Trump more successful than Sarah is that he defined your oppressor (the blacks and Hispanics) then he took it a step further and filled you with fear, offering himself as your one true savior!

This is all so obvious. But Trumpets will not be honest, will not use a mirror.





I recommend your tribe take personal responsibility for their failures.