Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

[Daverz]

This is where we are with politics in the 21st century;  it's now about ethnicity and colour and a shallow pre-occupation with same.  All this has caused deep divisions in western nations and it was always going to do this.  When you are preoccupied with race it becomes a Nazi-era race to claim legitimacy and supremacy.  All of it hideous;  all done before and all so predictable.  The horse has bolted and you will only get effective governments now with autocratic leaders who have to stare down the unceasing demands of 'minorities' - which are actually 'majorities' now.  Ugly indeed.

Wow, you're openly pining for a dictator to put the uppity minorities back in their place.  I'm not sure I wanted that much insight into your psyche.

[Sydney Nova Scotia]

I stick with Trump is a Hoax. its safer .................

[Ghost of Baron Scarpia]

     Her family story was she had a Native American ancestor, not that she belonged to a tribe. And what is "maybe there is no basis for Trump to claim the test is a fraud" all about? There is no basis period. The test is sound and it proves what she said, somewhere in her family way back there was a Native American.

"Maybe" shouldn't be in that sentence, you are right. She didn't do anything dishonest, illegal or immoral. She made herself look foolish by claiming any Native American status based on family lore. The genetic test is besides the point. That doesn't mean that trumps abuse isn't even worse.

[zamyrabyrd]

     Her family story was she had a Native American ancestor, not that she belonged to a tribe. And what is "maybe there is no basis for Trump to claim the test is a fraud" all about? There is no basis period. The test is sound and it proves what she said, somewhere in her family way back there was a Native American.

Fauxohontas claims here that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware. Could be she subscribes to Blasey-Fraud's "recovered memories" as being unassailable truth, or is just a habitual liar. At any rate it is good she is outed now.

https://www.youtube.com/v/SLI3SU33tIc

Cherokee Nation is the largest tribe with 365,000. On Monday, the tribe fired out a statement denouncing a U.S. senator's claim to her Native American ancestry through DNA testing. To claim membership to the Cherokee Nation, you must be able to prove that you can trace your self back to the tribe's Dawes Rolls, which is the original enrollment documents.

"People have this family lore and they can't prove it and people go through long and drawn out processes sometimes," Cherokee citizen Deborah Reed said. "They'll submit paperwork to the Cherokee Nation because there's an application process."

Cherokee citizens say this isn't a red versus blue issue, but it's about protecting treaties and their sovereignty. "I think the important takeaway is that Elizabeth Warren remembers that the Cherokee Nation is who decides who their citizens are not individuals," Reed said.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/cherokee-nation-responds-to-us-senator-s-dna-test-results

The embarrassing report from Annie Linskey even noted that the analysis of Warren's genetic ancestry was based not on Native American DNA, but on Mexican, Peruvian, and Colombian DNA...the average European-American has 0.18% Native American DNA, which may be higher than Warren.

https://greatamericanpolitics.com/2018/10/warren-digs-deeper-hole-goes-on-disturbing-trump-rant-after-shoddy-dna-test/

[zamyrabyrd]

This is where we are with politics in the 21st century;  it's now about ethnicity and colour and a shallow pre-occupation with same.  All this has caused deep divisions in western nations and it was always going to do this.  When you are preoccupied with race it becomes a Nazi-era race to claim legitimacy and supremacy.  All of it hideous;  all done before and all so predictable.  The horse has bolted and you will only get effective governments now with autocratic leaders who have to stare down the unceasing demands of 'minorities' - which are actually 'majorities' now.  Ugly indeed.

Well said and ominous, too, when phony racial theories masquerade as science. A drop of the wrong blood could have gotten you into a concentration camp 80 years ago, a right drop over the past 30-40 years can get you into a prestigious college.

The surface manifestations are equally batty, where does one draw the brown color line? The Honduran woman who dragged her three year old across the desert to the souther border and got her picture on the cover of Time magazine has frizzy hair but her skin is not dark by any stretch of the imagination. Depending on one's viewpoint, Barack Hussein Obama is either half white or half black. Latinos can be blond like the Mayoress of San Juan.

The level of discourse has sunk to a primitive level, not civil or rational anymore, reflecting the inanities that even so-called intelligent people repeat. 

[Christabel]

I absolutely love this and I so badly want to sing it to Elizabeth Warren, in this arid, humorless and censoring age of PC!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEpmkqWZgT8

[Sydney Nova Scotia]

ToadStool

HorseFace

Orange Head

Prostitute

So are you

[zamyrabyrd]

Excellent comments!!  You're one of the few thinking people on this site, sadly.  The haters are in charge these days.  For now.

It's difficult but not impossible to get past virtue-signaling as a legitimate argument. If you have "righteousness" on your side, there is no lower limit of insult or dirty tricks that one can descend to defend self-declared victims. I have experienced this on a personal level, when a perpetrator parades as a victim, so my BS detector is well honed.

[zamyrabyrd]

I absolutely love this and I so badly want to sing it to Elizabeth Warren, in this arid, humorless and censoring age of PC!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEpmkqWZgT8

Ha, ha, it's a wonder this hasn't been banned from the internet, will not be seen on Broadway again for sure. I have my own taped Beverly Hillbillies in case the humor police proscribe that too. 

[SimonNZ]

Looks like he hit the mark.  Again.  You've got zero sense of humor, just as the fellow in that clip suggested.  Poor little snowflake.  Well, you've got the Virtue Signaller in Chief there in NZ now;  that ought to make you feel much more secure.

The "humour" was that saying a bunch of racist stuff would get a rise out of people?

Hilarious.

[Christabel]

The "humour" was that saying a bunch of racist stuff would get a rise out of people?

Hilarious.

Millions have found it funny.  And very accurate.  You have no sense of humor and that's too bad for you.  As for your shallow, loony identity politics now we have Sen. Warren claiming to be 1/1024th indian.  OK.  A man with a penis is not necessarily a man and because of a 'social construct' he can be a different gender but Elizabeth Warren IS an indian.  Do you see how pathetically stupid this is?  Identity politics is loony and, in the final analysis, pitting one group against another IS THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION OF RACISM.  And it just isn't very bright, like its acolytes.  Seriously;  you just couldn't make this stuff up!!!!!!!!

And I'm betting you're not out there making the big bucks despite the massive leg-up you're supposed to get as a victim with identity politics.  Wake up, man.  It's insane.  You can see how easily Hitler got his rise to power;  there were plenty of fools who swallowed his propaganda.  The modern parallels are stark and troubling.

[zamyrabyrd]

Millions have found it funny.  And very accurate.  You have no sense of humor and that's too bad for you.  As for your shallow, loony identity politics now we have Sen. Warren claiming to be 1/1024th indian.  OK.  A man with a penis is not necessarily a man and because of a 'social construct' he can be a different gender but Elizabeth Warren IS an indian.  Do you see how pathetically stupid this is?  Identity politics is loony and, in the final analysis, pitting one group against another IS THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION OF RACISM.  And it just isn't very bright, like its acolytes.  Seriously;  you just couldn't make this stuff up!!!!!!!!

And I'm betting you're not out there making the big bucks despite the massive leg-up you're supposed to get as a victim with identity politics.  Wake up, man.  It's insane.  You can see how easily Hitler got his rise to power;  there were plenty of fools who swallowed his propaganda.  The modern parallels are stark and troubling.

Gad Saad pointed out that what Elizabeth Warren did was a blatant case of true cultural appropriation, using false ethnicity for a personal benefit. She did not always claim she was part native American depending on the institution she was applying to. Hahawatha has been exposed as Liawatha. Great timing also!

https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

What color? PInk?

A 1997 Fordham Law Review piece described her as Harvard Law School's "first woman of color,"... The title of the piece, by Laura Padilla, was "Intersectionality and positionality: Situating women of color in the affirmative action dialogue."

"There are few women of color who hold important positions in the academy, Fortune 500 companies, or other prominent fields or industries... "This is not inconsequential. Diversifying these arenas, in part by adding qualified women of color to their ranks, remains important for many reaons. For one, there are scant women of color as role models. In my three years at Stanford Law School, there were no professors who were women of color. Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995."

[Karl Henning]

Are you totally unable to perceive foibles of the left?

I am not.

[Karl Henning]

Trump calls Stormy Daniels "horseface". Previously he'd said she reminded him of his daughter.

Trumpkins loooeeeerve that he talks like a pissy fourth-grader!

[Karl Henning]

"Maybe" shouldn't be in that sentence, you are right. She didn't do anything dishonest, illegal or immoral. She made herself look foolish by claiming any Native American status based on family lore. The genetic test is besides the point. That doesn't mean that trumps abuse isn't even worse.

Yes.

[71 dB]

As a Finn I don't fully understand why EW having Indian heritage is such an issue. An american woman has 1/1024 Indian heritage in her? I don't see anything surprising about that. As far as I understood, EW did casually mention about her Indian heritage back in 2012 telling how she heard stories from her parents. The right used that against her and made it an issue. Then Trump joined with his $1 million bet. All this because of normal reproductive biology/mixing of gene pools? Who knows what heritage I myself have. Russian? Swedish? German? There has been stories about British royal heritage from my late mother's side (my late uncle was into genealogy). What does it matter? I am who I am. EW did the DNA test to end the debate. How about it?

[71 dB]

Trump calls Stormy Daniels "horseface". Previously he'd said she reminded him of his daughter.

Keeping up with your constant lies is hard, but at least you can lie more about what you meant with your previous lies. 

[zamyrabyrd]

As a Finn I don't fully understand why EW having Indian heritage is such an issue. An american woman has 1/1024 Indian heritage in her? I don't see anything surprising about that. As far as I understood, EW did casually mention about her Indian heritage back in 2012 telling how she heard stories from her parents. The right used that against her and made it an issue. Then Trump joined with his $1 million bet. All this because of normal reproductive biology/mixing of gene pools? Who knows what heritage I myself have. Russian? Swedish? German? There has been stories about British royal heritage from my late mother's side (my late uncle was into genealogy). What does it matter? I am who I am. EW did the DNA test to end the debate. How about it?

Elizabeth Warren said she had not only Cherokee ancestry but Delaware, two distinct tribes. Without any factual evidence, she USED this fiction to get preferred treatment at Harvard. Repeating a lie hundreds of times doesn't make it true. Why women like that should be believed is a mystery to me. Thank goodness she is FINISHED politically. She violated one of the left's own rules, that of cultural appropriation. Good riddance!

[SimonNZ]

Repeating a lie hundreds of times doesn't make it true.

Is your irony detector turned on?

[zamyrabyrd]

Is your irony detector turned on?

Sure, and so is my BS detector.