And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[JBS]

They're calling SC for Biden.  If it holds, it's a win he has desperately needed.

Will any of the laggards drop out?

Steyer's performance was strong enough to sustain a little steam.  Buttigieg (at present) appears to be running ahead of Warren, Klobuchar, & al.

Probably no one wants to drop out before "Super Tuesday."

Steyer has dropped out.

[Herman]

I started to feel this thread does harm to my mental health so I try to be less active and do other things, therapeutic things such as making music and walking outside in the fresh air. It helps. I just need to be careful about becoming too active here,

That's a good idea. Your enthusiasm is admirable, but you can't help getting a little preachy sometimes, and that's counterproductive.

Also, perhaps it would be better if people in non-American parts of the world focused a little more on the political etc situation in their own region. The international media, whether you call them corporate or not, make it seem US-politics is the only game on the planet.

[SimonNZ]

I started to feel this thread does harm to my mental health so I try to be less active and do other things, therapeutic things such as making music and walking outside in the fresh air. It helps. I just need to be careful about becoming too active here, because this forum is toxic af. I don't understand how people into classcal music are so anti-Bernie. I can understand if we have ONE Todd here, but Bernie supporters seem to be a small minority here. I am being attacked for not being able to name negative things about Bernie, the candidate I support while other candidates get a total pass. Biden's gaffes and South Africa lies. Buttigieg's wine cave money. Bloomberg's authoritarian oligarchy. Total pass while Bernie gets attacked for increasing bureaucracy for trying to give everyone healthcare and roof over their head. Crazy!

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[milk]

Recent news suggest economic dark clouds. The current pandemic shows why honesty an competency are still relevant in government.
I'm feeling more and more that Bernie would be a wasted opportunity and a loser. Can the candidates give away their delegates? I think everyone will gang up against him eventually. It'll be controversial if they all throw it to Biden at the convention and the Bros will scream but it could be a gamble that pays off.

[71 dB]

That's a good idea. Your enthusiasm is admirable, but you can't help getting a little preachy sometimes, and that's counterproductive.

Yeah, that's who I am, a preachy guy. Sorry. I think it's asperger that makes me that way.

Also, perhaps it would be better if people in non-American parts of the world focused a little more on the political etc situation in their own region. The international media, whether you call them corporate or not, make it seem US-politics is the only game on the planet.

Finnish politics is SO boring compared to US politics. We have single payer healthcare. We have tuition free education. We have had those for decades. We also have ambitious climate change agenda. We have pretty good democracy. We have those things the US doesn't have. There are no elections going on so what is there to focus on exactly?

[Marc]

[...] There are no elections going on so what is there to focus on exactly?

Loads of things, but NO politics. Politics is about abuse of power and corruption. Let them corrupt and abuse themselves.

Instead, focus on (to mention a few):

Music.
Songbirds (springtime is coming!).
Nature in general.
Damn fine history books and/or novels.
Poetry.
Learn how to play chess and then play online.
Art.
A chat with your neighbour.
Pretty girls.

All much more fun than politics.
Even for Aspergers.

Yeah.

[Florestan]

Loads of things, but NO politics. Politics is about abuse of power and corruption. Let them corrupt and abuse themselves.

Instead, focus on (to mention a few):

Music.
Songbirds (springtime is coming!).
Nature in general.
Damn fine history books and/or novels.
Poetry.
Learn how to play chess and then play online.
Art.
A chat with your neighbour.
Pretty girls.

All much more fun than politics.
Even for Aspergers.

Yeah.

Amen!

[Herman]

Instead, focus on (to mention a few):

Music.
Songbirds (springtime is coming!).
Nature in general.
Damn fine history books and/or novels.
Poetry.
Learn how to play chess and then play online.
Art.
A chat with your neighbour.
Pretty girls.

All much more fun than politics.

This obviously goes for all of us.

talk to yr loved ones
playing an instrument
picking up a pencil and making a picture
read those novels you piled up

[71 dB]

Music: Yes. I have been making music. I am preparing for mixing my track.
I have been listening to music. Revisiting my CDs I have not listened to for a long time.

I started to watch my favorite tv show The X-Files again on Blu-ray last November and I just started season 7. Also just bought/watched the Japanese "One Missed Call" Trilogy on Blu-ray. Even if this trilogy isn't the best that J-horror has to offer it is SO COOL to see these on Blu-ray!!

Nature? Not much that now as it has been a "gray" snowless winter.

So, I have stuff "outside" politics, but it has been INTENSE because of the election cycle... ...I say this: If americans fuck up this chance to elect Bernie Sanders as their president I will forget the damn country even exists! The rest of the World needs to save this planet as the US keeps enriching fossil fuckers and I won't care about the suffering of americans because of oligarchy. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE!! Don't whine in South Carolina when your social security is cut so billionaires can have bigger tax cuts! YOU voted for Biden instead of Bernie! YOU fucked up yourself. Suffer the consequencies. Pray that people on other States are smarter than you. 10.8 % of people in South Carolina don't have healthcare. Biden's "lets make ObamaCare a little better" incrementalism won't make that zero, not even close!

[Ratliff]

Music: Yes. I have been making music. I am preparing for mixing my track.
I have been listening to music. Revisiting my CDs I have not listened to for a long time.

I started to watch my favorite tv show The X-Files again on Blu-ray last November and I just started season 7. Also just bought/watched the Japanese "One Missed Call" Trilogy on Blu-ray. Even if this trilogy isn't the best that J-horror has to offer it is SO COOL to see these on Blu-ray!!

Nature? Not much that now as it has been a "gray" snowless winter.

So, I have stuff "outside" politics, but it has been INTENSE because of the election cycle... ...I say this: If americans fuck up this chance to elect Bernie Sanders as their president I will forget the damn country even exists! The rest of the World needs to save this planet as the US keeps enriching fossil fuckers and I won't care about the suffering of americans because of oligarchy. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE!! Don't whine in South Carolina when your social security is cut so billionaires can have bigger tax cuts! YOU voted for Biden instead of Bernie! YOU fucked up yourself. Suffer the consequencies. Pray that people on other States are smarter than you. 10.8 % of people in South Carolina don't have healthcare. Biden's "lets make ObamaCare a little better" incrementalism won't make that zero, not even close!

I think that is what many of us are hoping for.

[Karl Henning]

Steyer has dropped out.

Kudos to him for "adulting"

[71 dB]

Steyer has dropped out.

Steyer is worth $1.2 billion. Bloomberg is worth $60 billion. Steyer realized Bloomberg can buy 50 times more tv adds than he so If a billionaire buys himself the presidency it's not Steyer but Bloomberg. Steyer is a much nicer guy than Bloomberg and would definitely be a better president, but idiots supporting candidates just because they have lots of add on tv don't have the mental capacity to realize that. Steyer can't compete with Bloomberg with his money, but Bernie can compete with his populist message and "Not me. Us" -grassroots movement. It's money vs. people. Money wins in oligarchy. People win in democracy.

[71 dB]

Buttigieg is out!  

[Karl Henning]

Buttigieg is out! 

Aye, part of me is sorry, as I prefer him to Biden, though he would make a good VP choice; however, Biden may need to designate a woman Veep ... which is fine, Buttigieg can be future talent.

However, with Biden's recent Palmetto landslide, the "non-Bernie" lane is awfully crowded. A sober good move on Pete's part, reflecting well on him.

[André]

Aye, part of me is sorry, as I prefer him to Biden, though he would make a good VP choice; however, Biden may need to designate a woman Veep ... which is fine, Buttigieg can be future talent.

However, with Biden's recent Palmetto landslide, the "non-Bernie" lane is awfully crowded. A sober good move on Pete's part, reflecting well on him.

+ 1

Our friend Pujo would probably say that the 'rat' is back in the gutter 

[Ratliff]

I get to vote in Super Tuesday!

[Ratliff]

Who do I vote for.

[Mirror Image]

Who do I vote for.

Daffy Duck.

[Ratliff]

Daffy Duck.

Not on the ballot, even here.

[71 dB]

Aye, part of me is sorry, as I prefer him to Biden, though he would make a good VP choice; however, Biden may need to designate a woman Veep ... which is fine, Buttigieg can be future talent.

However, with Biden's recent Palmetto landslide, the "non-Bernie" lane is awfully crowded. A sober good move on Pete's part, reflecting well on him.

Which Buttigieg did you prefer? Buttigieg a year ago supporting medicare-for-all or more recent "who wants him" -Buttigieg attacking medicare-for-all to make wine cave millionaires happy? Buttigieg is a smart guy, but clearly also very opportunistic and has demonstrated narcissistic, even psychopathic tendencies evident on how he handled things in South Bend and during his presidential campaign. Are those good tendencies for the president of the united states? I encourage you to rewatch him talking in the debates and analyse what he says. It's not much more than word sallad.

Buttigieg can be future talent IF he starts to think himself and his career less and more what he can do for Americans. I doubt that.