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MusicTurner

#1140
Took an afternoon bicycle ride into central Copenhagen, was glad to see that social distancing was working, luckily. There is a maximum gathering of 10 people under all circumstances, including say at burials and so on, and it is being enforced by police.

Even on a sunny Spring day like this, there were no groups of more than 5-6 people (youngsters in the parks, of course), but almost everyone I saw were 1-2-3 people only.

Rush hour traffic, bicycle groups and car traffic generally, was almost gone, eating places are closed, except for some take-away; education places, department stores and most shops as well as sights are also closed, etc.

Normally these scenes would be very busy with people. Public transport also has very few passengers. It is eerie of course, but much more disciplined, at least around 5 PM, than I'd expected.

Karl Henning

"NEW YORK (AP) — The steep rise in coronavirus deaths in New York seems to be leveling off in a possible sign that social distancing is working in the most lethal hot spot in the U.S., the governor said Monday — a trend that appears to have taken hold more convincingly in hard-hit Italy and Spain.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo warned that this is no time to relax the restrictions aimed at keeping people from getting too close to one another, and he ordered bigger fines against violators.

"The numbers look like it may be turning. `Yay, it's over!' No, it's not. And other places have made that mistake," he said."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Coronavirus death toll tops 10,000 in US; New York City considers mass grave in park for coronavirus victims
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Experts expect that coronavirus hospitalizations in Massachusetts will peak between April 10 and April 20, Governor Baker said Thursday.

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

JBS

In my neck of the woods

QuoteA widely used model of the impact of coronavirus now shows Florida's peak in deaths will come earlier — and be higher — than previously estimated. The model, which has been updated about once a week, previously had projected a peak in early May, with 136 deaths a day.

The University of Washington Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation's Sunday update shows Florida's peak is expected on April 21, at which point the state will see 242 deaths per day.

On Monday morning, the total number of deaths in Florida from the new coronavirus stood at 236, an increase of 22% from Saturday morning.

At least 13,324 people have now tested positive for the new coronavirus across Florida, the state Department of of Health reported Monday morning, an increase of about of 974 cases from Sunday evening.

At midday Monday, Miami-Dade had the largest number, 4,481, of total cases. Broward had 2,067 cases and Palm Beach County had 1,069.
As of Monday morning, Palm Beach County had recorded 49 deaths, Broward had 46, and Miami-Dade County 38.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-coronavirus-monday-updates-20200406-wzumka6t6bdx3cendmcks52mxq-story.html
In part the increase in cases simply corresponds to the increase in testing.

[I live in Broward County.]

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Marc

#1145
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52192604

Not looking good for Boris Johnson. I don't like the man as a politician, but bless him. Fingers crossed he survives it.

Iota

Quote from: Marc on April 06, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52192604

Not looking good for Boris Johnson. I don't like the man as a politician, but bless him. Fingers crossed he survives it.

Nor I. But I think it's obvious he needs to stop trying to lead the country and concentrate on getting better. The two demands seem at war with each other.

Mandryka

#1147
Quote from: Iota on April 06, 2020, 12:17:52 PM
Nor I. But I think it's obvious he needs to stop trying to lead the country and concentrate on getting better. The two demands seem at war with each other.

Being tired can't help, and I guess he's a bit of a porker too, but who knows what causes this excessive immune system response after 10 days. There but for the grace of God go I.

Do we know whether he's receiving mechanical ventilation?
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Herman

Quote from: Mandryka on April 06, 2020, 07:44:31 AM
Has the King of the Netherlands, and the King of Belgium been given the opportunity to address their people about COVID? I just wonder if all monarchies are conceived of in the same way as the British.

The Dutch King (a mere lad) has spoken on tv.

Mandryka

Quote from: Herman on April 06, 2020, 12:40:58 PM
The Dutch King (a mere lad) has spoken on tv.

I think the Queen's speech was very good, though it pains me to say it. She's the closest we've got in the UK to an inspirational leader ??????
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Que

Quote from: Mandryka on April 06, 2020, 12:48:56 PM
She's the closest we've got in the UK to an inspirational leader ??????

Count your blessings!  :)

Charles survived the virus, so he is/might be up next....  ???  ;)

Q

prémont

Quote from: MusicTurner on April 06, 2020, 10:43:54 AM
Took an afternoon bicycle ride into central Copenhagen, was glad to see that social distancing was working, luckily. There is a maximum gathering of 10 people under all circumstances, including say at burials and so on, and it is being enforced by police.

Thanks for the nice pictures from Copenhagen, where I lived the first 30 years of my life. I wasn't aware that you are a newly registered countryman, but welcome here in the forum. Hope you will enjoy.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

prémont

Quote from: Mandryka on April 06, 2020, 12:35:43 PM
Being tired can't help, and I guess he's a bit of a porker too, but who knows what causes this excessive immune system response after 10 days. There but for the grace of God go I.

Do we know whether he's receiving mechanical ventilation?

We were told by Danish TV, that he isn't in respirator so far (about 8½ PM).

The insidious and not quite uncommon fact about CoVID19 is, that you may have mild symptoms for about a  week and then suddenly get worse.

Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

pjme

Quote from: Herman on April 06, 2020, 12:40:58 PM
The Dutch King (a mere lad) has spoken on tv.
????
Willem Alexander will be 53 on april 27th. His corona speech was well received:  https://youtu.be/SWLyu_F35W4

the Belgian king Philip turned 60 on april 15th.


MusicTurner

Quote from: (: premont :) on April 06, 2020, 01:41:39 PM
Thanks for the nice pictures from Copenhagen, where I lived the first 30 years of my life. I wasn't aware that you are a newly registered countryman, but welcome here in the forum. Hope you will enjoy.

Thank you, yes, I moved to the capital back in the mid-80s.

MusicTurner

#1155
Quote from: pjme on April 06, 2020, 01:58:01 PM
????
Willem Alexander will be 53 on april 27th. His corona speech was well received:  https://youtu.be/SWLyu_F35W4

the Belgian king Philip turned 60 on april 15th.
Yeah, had to check that. But it was probably meant 'by comparison' (with the British Queen).

prémont

To day we were told by our PM (Mette Frederiksen) that Denmark will open up a bit after Easter. The first things to open are the child care and the schools (only from class 1 to 5), which means that children from 0 years to about 10 years of age are included. It presupposes that measures like social distancing and hand-washing et. c. is strictly maintained. Still this will inevitably lead to more virus spread in the society, but also to more herd immunity.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

MusicTurner

Quote from: (: premont :) on April 06, 2020, 02:04:29 PM
To day we were told by our PM (Mette Frederiksen) that Denmark will open up a bit after Easter. The first things to open are the child care and the schools (only from class 1 to 5), which means that children from 0 years to about 10 years of age are included. It presupposes that measures like social distancing and hand-washing et. c. is strictly maintained. Still this will inevitably lead to more virus spread in the society, but also to more herd immunity.

Yes. However, all large gatherings, concerts and festivals must also be cancelled until as late as September. A somewhat complicated strategy, it seems.

Iota

Quote from: Mandryka on April 06, 2020, 12:35:43 PM
Do we know whether he's receiving mechanical ventilation?

According to the BBC Ten-O-Clock news, no, and as I write, the website makes no mention of any change. He had apparently been moved to intensive care 'just as a precaution'.

I wish him well.

SimonNZ

You can't use ventilators without sedatives. Now the US is running out of those, too.

"Ambulance and emergency sirens in New York City are wailing ceaselessly this month, as the number of reported deaths from Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, in the state surpassed 4,100 as of April 6. (Public health experts say that these tallies are severely undercounting the total.)

As one of the hardest-hit locations in the US so far, the city is scrambling to find enough ventilators — equipment that gets oxygen into the lungs of severe Covid-19 patients having trouble breathing on their own — for the expected surge in patients. Gov. Andrew Cuomo said at a press conference April 4 that the state had ordered 17,000 ventilators from the federal government, but "that order never came through."

Although New York City may be the first city in the country to run out of ventilators, other cities are expected to follow. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy recently tweeted, "Ventilators are our #1 need right now. I won't stop fighting to get us the equipment we need to save every life we can." Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards predicted that his state would run out of ventilators by April 6.

But to save a Covid-19 patient's life with a ventilator, you also need an ample supply of medications, both to be able to use the machine and to prevent agonizing pain. Experts say there's a worrisome shortage of those, too — one that's only expected to grow worse.

"The minute you talk about ventilators you need to talk about medications," says Esther Choo, an associate professor of emergency medicine at Oregon Health & Science University. Choo says hospitals are already running out of medications like fentanyl, versed, propofol, and even neuromuscular blockades, what she calls "everyday bread and butter medications," the drugs needed to induce and maintain sedation while on a ventilator. "Ventilators can't really be used without these medications."[...]