Coronavirus thread

[MusicTurner]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-06/giuliani-has-tested-positive-for-covid-19-trump-says
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/06/trump-says-rudy-giuliani-has-tested-positive-for-coronavirus.html

- OK, if true, there were hints a few days ago, when people he met with were tested positive.

- More and more reports of the virus possibly originating much earlier than last December in Wuhan, with apparent finds already in the autumn in many regions in Italy, Spain, the UK, Sweden, France, the US etc., but not identified at the time. A team in Denmark will now try to compare possible, early finds with samples from the year before in detail, to try to establish more certain conclusions.

- Apparently China is also trying to downplay the role of Wuhan, but at least they've now allowed an international team to investigate the origins of the outbreak there.

- here in DK, the number of daily infections tends to rise to around 2000 per day, and the government has announced further restrictions to be presented tomorrow, to stop it. The opposition and in particular the established right-wing press is campaigning against the government to a higher degree now, using absolutely everything they can find, and involving a fair use of hyperboles, which at times can be a sad development to watch, IMO. But the new, serious statistics might lead to more political unity again, for a while.

- another Danish, big investigation has shown that the virus is about 5 times more deadly than the average flu.

[Tom 1960]

Some people may smirk when I say this, but I was listening to Howard Stern this morning and he interviewed a ICU doctor who works in the Cleveland Clinic.  It was really was a fascinating interview in which he discussed what it was like working during the pandemic. The issues he was dealing with such as the staggering numbering of people dying on a daily basis. How he was dealing with that on a personal level. How his coworkers were handling things. Coworkers 2'nd guessing whether to continue in the profession. Dealing with burnout. Being overwhelmed. Having to intubate patients. Going out shopping afterwards and seeing people shopping maskless.  How he felt about the US government's  poor job handling of the crisis. I felt quite angry afterwards how this whole situation has become politicized and how some people refuse to deal with this issue in a very serious way. Say what you want about Howard Stern, but that was great radio this morning.

[T. D.]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/07/trump-to-sign-covid-19-vaccine-executive-order-prioritizing-americans.html

We don't believe in that mask-wearing crap, but by golly, we're gonna make sure all us Americans get vaccinated before any of them damn Euro-fags and denizens of shithole countries!

[Mandryka]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/07/trump-to-sign-covid-19-vaccine-executive-order-prioritizing-americans.html

We don't believe in that mask-wearing crap, but by golly, we're gonna make sure all us Americans get vaccinated before any of them damn Euro-fags and denizens of shithole countries!

Do you think Biden will revoke it?

[T. D.]

Do you think Biden will revoke it?

No idea. Perusing the text of the article, to which I defer out of ignorance:

CNBC has not reviewed the proposed text of the executive order, which could prove to be largely symbolic.
The official said that the timeline for providing foreign assistance will be shaped by supply and demand, but is anticipated to begin in the second quarter. President-elect Joe Biden will take office on Jan. 20 and is likely to shape his own policy for obtaining and distributing Covid-19 vaccines, possibly limiting the impact of Trump's order.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

From what I've seen here (at first glance), President-Elect Biden thinks that maybe he can't legally make it a mandate for all Americans to wear masks, but.....:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/17/joe-biden-i-cant-mandate-masks-except-federal-prop/

Any newer news?

PD

[T. D.]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/07/legislatures-postpone-work-after-rudy-giuliani-covid-diagnosis.html

The legislatures of Arizona and Michigan said that they would postpone work as a result of a positive coronavirus test for President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani appeared without a mask at sessions hosted by Republican lawmakers from both states as he promoted unfounded claims that Joe Biden won the presidential election because of ballot fraud.

[71 dB]

People need yo wear gas masks around Giuliani. 

[T. D.]

People need yo wear gas masks around Giuliani. 

Which raises an interesting question: Does flatus carry coronavirus? 

[drogulus]

     

[Karl Henning]

What seven ICU nurses want you to
know about the battle against covid-19

[Herman]

Which raises an interesting question: Does flatus carry coronavirus? 

Apparently it does, 'cause the Barbie lawyer who accompanied Giuliani for looks and Godliness, has the virus too, now. She was right in the cloud.

[71 dB]

Which raises an interesting question: Does flatus carry coronavirus? 

MusicIan423 says it well in Youtube comment section:

"While we know the virus sheds through the nose and mouth... We have discovered that most spreading of covid comes from assholes"

So true! 

[T. D.]

More analysis here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/04/27/can-farts-transmit-covid-19-coronavirus-here-is-what-is-being-said/?sh=3e536c44310f

[SimonNZ]

They "had a blast" writing that article.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Warning about the Pfizer vaccine:

"People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.
It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.
The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55244122

[T. D.]

Don't look now, but...

China State-Backed Covid Vaccine Has 86% Efficacy, UAE Says

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/coronavirus-live-updates.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-09/uae-says-sinopharm-vaccine-has-86-efficacy-against-covid-19

UAE says China's Covid vaccine from Sinopharm is 86% effective in its trials
Phase 3 human trials of a Chinese vaccine in the United Arab Emirates have yielded an 86% efficacy rate, the UAE's Ministry of Health said. The UAE's Phase 3 trials included 31,000 volunteers across 125 nationalities between ages 18 and 60.

The announcement cited an "interim analysis" conducted by Sinopharm's China National Biotec Group (CNBG), whose Beijing Institute of Biological Product unit developed the vaccine itself. The Gulf state of 10 million people began Phase 3 human trials of the experimental vaccine in July, and in September approved its emergency use for health workers. Several high-ranking UAE officials, including the Dubai's Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum, have taken the vaccine.

The ministry stated that "the analysis shows no serious safety concerns," but its release left out several details, including information on how many patients were given the vaccine dosage versus placebos, and whether patients experienced any side effects.

[Irons]

Warning about the Pfizer vaccine:

"People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.
It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.
The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55244122

Comparable allergic results to those of Marmite, P. 

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Comparable allergic results to those of Marmite, P.

I hadn't realized that people could be allergic to Marmite Irons (had to remind myself what it is made out of)?  I see that it's yeast.

Have you heard anything about doctors suggesting that certain people wait and have a different vaccine instead?

PD

[Irons]

I hadn't realized that people could be allergic to Marmite Irons (had to remind myself what it is made out of)?  I see that it's yeast.

Have you heard anything about doctors suggesting that certain people wait and have a different vaccine instead?

PD

Not yet, P. The big concern is the anti-vaccine brigade who already had a base with the mumps vaccine for children which was an issue before the Covid crises. I find it irresponsible for parents to refuse that their children to be inoculated due to unsubstantiated so called risks, then if their child falls ill to expect the NHS cure the child of mumps or similar at the cost of the taxpayer.