Coronavirus thread

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Okay that is pretty bad.  For me it was just sore when I fully extended it.  It only lasted 2-3 days.  I had no other side effects excepting an optimism for the future.

Hurrah!

Nah. It's not bad at all. Just didn't want to leave a misleading impression for those who haven't gotten stuck yet.

Glad that you're feeling better.

PD

[prémont]

News from a Danish stydy:

People with low virus levels are more contagious than expected. Researchers from the Statens Serum Institut (SSI) and the University of Copenhagen have in a new study found that people can infect others with corona, even if they only have a low amount of virus in their body

This is new knowledge, says Claus Nielsen, virologist and department head at SSI.
The study is based on the period from 25 August to 10 February among corona-infected people in Danish households with between two and six members. The results may indicate that the fast tests have difficulty in measuring any infection with the corona if only a modest amount of virus is present.

[Todd]

The Latest: Paris may face new lockdown as ICUs fill up

[Mandryka]

The Latest: Paris may face new lockdown as ICUs fill up

France is a real mystery, Todd. They have more than 60% British Variant, and a fair amount of Brazil and South Africa. Schools and small shops are open. There is a curfew at night and weekend movement restrictions in two regions, and obviously theatres and restaurants are closed. But nevertheless for months and months the number of cases detected has been stable -- and only recently and regionally the hospitalisations have grown. At first it made me doubt the contagiousness of the British variant . . . it was just Boris's bad management that made the UK suffer so much. . .  we shall see.

[Todd]

Third Covid wave sweeps across EU and forces new restrictions

New variants blamed as Italy, France, Germany and Poland see infection rates surge

[Todd]

[Todd]

Last month: Covid: EU's von der Leyen admits vaccine rollout failures

This month: EU defends Covid-19 vaccine distribution as countries complain it is uneven

[Mandryka]

Is there any reason to be concerned about the safety of the Astra Zeneca vaccine? 

[MusicTurner]

Is there any reason to be concerned about the safety of the Astra Zeneca vaccine?

It's being investigated, it's too early to say, but the single fatality here in DK showed a rare blood reaction pattern, and there've been three unusual cases in Norway too, among younger health workers. Plus some fatalities at retirement homes. A few similar cases are known from Austria. Statistically, numbers seem very low so far, however.

[71 dB]

Apparently Chile is now doing something right.

Good for Chile. They have secured supply of vaccines. They are planning to reach herd immunity by June.

[T. D.]

I got Pfizer #1 today at the County facility.
They strongly advised booking #2 (which was straightforward) before leaving, "otherwise it'll be difficult".
So my #2 is scheduled for April 5.

[JBS]

I got Pfizer #1 today at the County facility.
They strongly advised booking #2 (which was straightforward) before leaving, "otherwise it'll be difficult".
So my #2 is scheduled for April 5.

I also got Pfizer 1 today. But they booked it for April 4, even though it's Easter Sunday.

They did overbook appointments: it took me over 2 hours in the drive through line to get the actual shot.

As of now, I feel like I have bad arthritis in my shoulder. OTOH, I do have arthritis in that shoulder so it may not be the shot that did it.

[Mandryka]

It's being investigated, it's too early to say, but the single fatality here in DK showed a rare blood reaction pattern, and there've been three unusual cases in Norway too, among younger health workers. Plus some fatalities at retirement homes. A few similar cases are known from Austria. Statistically, numbers seem very low so far, however.

That's really interesting because it is prima facie inconsistent with the spin on things here. Here they're telling us  that the events which are causing concern in some overcautious European countries are common, and that in fact the numbers in the AZ vaccinated population are not at all worrying.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/15/why-some-countries-have-suspended-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-and-what-it-means-for-australia-explainer

[Mandryka]

That's really interesting because it is prima facie inconsistent with the spin on things here. Here they're telling us  that the events which are causing concern in some overcautious European countries are common, and that in fact the numbers in the AZ vaccinated population are not at all worrying.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/15/why-some-countries-have-suspended-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-and-what-it-means-for-australia-explainer

But now things are looking more serious

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/14/ireland-suspends-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-over-blood-clot-concerns

[André]

« I'm not worried about Covid. I want the shot against Astra Zeneca »

[Biffo]

But now things are looking more serious

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/14/ireland-suspends-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-over-blood-clot-concerns

Why? Only a few days ago Ireland was begging for AZ vaccines from the US; they were turned down. If the US had given them the one million doses they wanted do you think they would now be refusing to use them. There have been no more cases of blood clots in Ireland or anywhere else but now Germany has joined in the 'me too' hysteria. Good luck to them. I am waiting for my second AZ vaccination, due in around six weeks.

[Que]

Whether the concerns about AstraZeneca are in the end proven to be objectively justified or not, after months of back-and-forth on effectiveness and side effects its reputation is now effectively dead.

[Biffo]

Whether the concerns about AstraZeneca are in the end proven to be objectively justified or not, after months of back-and-forth on effectiveness and side effects its reputation is now effectively dead.

Yes, of course it is and I am sure all these European countries will now cancel their orders and stop blocking exports to the countries that want to use it.

[Que]

Yes, of course it is and I am sure all these European countries will now cancel their orders and stop blocking exports to the countries that want to use it.

We'll see how this develops. Public trust in the safety and reliability of vaccines is crucial to a successful campaign.

To my knowledge far export from the EU has been blocked once: 250.000 doses from Italy with destination Australia.

Q

[Harry]

Yes, of course it is and I am sure all these European countries will now cancel their orders and stop blocking exports to the countries that want to use it.

You seem to forget that Zeneca exported their vaccins to England, which were meant for the Netherlands and other European countries, just so that Johnson could make a big gesture to his voters. I sit very close to to the source were this is common knowledge. And by the way they also block all the Zeneca vaccins to Europe.