Quiz: Mystery scores

Luke · August 30, 2010, 03:38:14 AM

Quote from: rappy on August 30, 2010, 02:32:46 AM
Sorry Luke, I'm sure I've never heard any of the pieces, so the clues can be totally obvious and still don't help me.

Well, there's no harm in a little....research! Plus, the clues ought to be able to help you to identify the composer, in some cases.

rappy · August 30, 2010, 03:41:19 AM

Quote from: Luke on August 30, 2010, 03:36:47 AM
Haven't looked at it much yet....a question though (an obvious one): do these infuriating alterations you are making to the scores include matters of the clef? In otherwords - is this one oiginally in the alto clef, or is that one of the changes you are allowing yourself?

In this case, I did not change the clef. So you can guess that the theme must probably be played by a viola or viola section.

Luke · August 30, 2010, 03:49:39 AM

Clearly (or an alto trombone!)

karlhenning · August 30, 2010, 05:44:44 AM

Soon I shall bend [whatever is left of] my thought in these! ; )

Guido · August 30, 2010, 06:29:09 AM

Quote from: Luke on August 28, 2010, 12:16:53 AM
Sorry, Rappy, only just saw this reply - no, it's not Janacek, though I can see your logic. To clarify, the last three score examples are all from the same piece, I'm just being generous by giving extra samples, so, looking at the first of those three, I think it's clear why it isn't Janacek, and I hope it's clear why I might say what I said about it above.

Erm... because Janacek never wrote any Jazz? Sadly I don't think I know this one... Is it a standard? I'm guessing not.

Luke · August 30, 2010, 06:33:12 AM

It's extremely famous, and it is exactly what I said it was a few posts ago. Heavy hinting there...

edit - huge clue is in this post

Luke · August 30, 2010, 06:37:53 AM

There is one performer particularly associated with this song, jazz-wise, and the second and third of my three samples of it are there really because they give a flavour of his typical style; the first sample, of course, with chords and metre, might suggest the tune itself. But my clue is the big one.....

listener · August 30, 2010, 10:33:43 AM

as usual the disc I want to use to verify my guess is hiding
so #478 Couperin Le Parnassus ? (from Les Gouts réunis)

Guido · August 30, 2010, 12:35:42 PM

Well then it's Favourite Things by Roger and Hammerstein. John Coltrane is the artist you're thinking of...?

My, my, look how far my Cambridge education has brought me - to put it together like that with such meagre clues - they have literally taught me to be a genius. Staggering.

Luke · August 31, 2010, 08:45:43 AM

Quote from: listener on August 30, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
as usual the disc I want to use to verify my guess is hiding
so #478 Couperin Le Parnassus ? (from Les Gouts réunis)

Arrgh, it's hard to make one's way round those various pieces of Couperin's - I think the set called Les Gouts reunis is really connected to L'apothéose de Corelli; in fact this piece is from another visit to Parnassus, during a different apotheosis - Lully's, it goes without saying - but the same point is being made, and in fact the written description of this movement at the head of the score is 'Apollon persuade Lulli et Corelli que la reunion des gouts Francois et Italien doit faire la perfection de la musique'.

So I'll give it to you...!

Guido - correct, of course. I like how no one spotted me saying the title of this piece in the middle of one of the clues

listener · August 31, 2010, 10:09:58 AM

476 Joseph JOACHIM Variations on an original theme. op. 10
- a neatly constructed piece in that the opening notes of the theme (re-do) can resolve into a closing V-I cadence and the variations can overlap each other.

karlhenning · August 31, 2010, 10:10:57 AM

Quote from: Luke on August 31, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
Guido - correct, of course. I like how no one spotted me saying the title of this piece in the middle of one of the clues

Well played!

Luke · August 31, 2010, 11:11:06 AM

Quote from: listener on August 31, 2010, 10:09:58 AM
476 Joseph JOACHIM Variations on an original theme. op. 10
- a neatly constructed piece in that the opening notes of the theme (re-do) can resolve into a closing V-I cadence and the variations can overlap each other.

Great, well done - as you say, a clever piece, and rather a beautiful one, too, I think, with a certain Brahmsian sheen to it. I wonder how well it is known by violists, in what is a relativley limited repertoire - it deserves playing, as a serious, thoughtful, beautiful and impressive piece of writing. One to partner a certain sonata, perhaps....

Want to give a clue on your one?

I've done a little thinking about it - love how it telescopes the opening of Beethoven 5 like that! - but no success, really. Pretty sure it's not the obvious candidate, or I'd recognise it....I'd like to think!

Luke · August 31, 2010, 11:17:01 AM

listener · August 31, 2010, 11:50:47 AM

Quote from: Luke on August 31, 2010, 11:11:06 AM

Want to give a clue on your one? I've done a little thinking about it - love how it telescopes the opening of Beethoven 5 like that! - but no success, really. Pretty sure it's not the obvious candidate, or I'd recognise it....I'd like to think!

The usual description of the "meaning" of the quote is exactly what is happening here. It is a quote (not quite exact) of bars 478-85 or thereabouts, my penciled note is quite faint. The preceding bars were in 3/4, and changes to 6/8=3/4 stringendo at the next entry.

rappy · August 31, 2010, 01:40:58 PM

What's this?

Luke · September 01, 2010, 12:40:37 AM

Not sure, Rappy, but this one of your old ones - http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,3125.msg356560.html#msg356560 - number 4, I mean (I'm beingt specific becasue the numbering got a bit confused when you gave clues once, IIRC) is Strauss, Tod und Verklarung, isn't it?

rappy · September 01, 2010, 01:49:04 AM

Excellent, Luke!!

listener · September 01, 2010, 12:11:19 PM

re: Luke 475
probably not Mozart, Dussek, or Piston or Vaughan Williams, wrong key I think for Saint-Saëns S3, might be the Bruch 2-piano concerto?

Luke · September 01, 2010, 12:23:05 PM

No pianos in that one.... but fairly idiomatic writing for the two (different) instruments on those two pairs of staves you are looking at...

Quiz: Mystery scores

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