Quiz: Mystery scores

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lukeottevanger

59 - 'To what you said' from Songfest, Bernstein.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2008, 08:38:58 AM
59 - 'To what you said' from Songfest, Bernstein.

To a text by Whitman ("I am large, I contain multitudes"). This is the long orchestral intro before the baritone comes in. I think of this as Lenny's "coming out" song, and one of his best from the later years.

We seem to be doing at least as well without the scores as with them. Perhaps we can just have mystery identifications based on clues until the graphics come back.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

The first one remaining - no 49 I think - is Faure's 2nd violin sonata. I got that without your clues, except possibly the 'second of this type' one. It's obviously French, and in fact I'd thought of Faure days ago - but been too lazy to get up and listen to my CD to check!!!  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

lukeottevanger

Going out for an hour or so now - just when I get on a roll.  >:(

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 26, 2008, 08:45:33 AM
We seem to be doing at least as well without the scores as with them. Perhaps we can just have mystery identifications based on clues until the graphics come back.

Be prepared to do so with my remaining ones soon!

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2008, 08:46:47 AM
The first one remaining - no 49 I think - is Faure's 2nd violin sonata. I got that without your clues, except possibly the 'second of this type' one. It's obviously French, and in fact I'd thought of Faure days ago - but been too lazy to get up and listen to my CD to check!!!  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Guido: "Barber's Excursions for piano are similar in a sense in that they are his only foray into the Jazz/classical genre,"
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2008, 08:49:49 AM
Be prepared to do so with my remaining ones soon!

Then give good clues!
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 26, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
Guido: "Barber's Excursions for piano are similar in a sense in that they are his only foray into the Jazz/classical genre,"

Oh, for G-d's sake!* And all your four-fold repetitions, were they point Faure-wards too?

*Saul may be watching, and we mustn't offend his sensibilities.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2008, 09:43:45 AM
Oh, for G-d's sake!* And all your four-fold repetitions, were they point Faure-wards too?

*Saul may be watching, and we mustn't offend his sensibilities.

Temper, temper, temper, temper! no Fauré allusion there. Rather: Did not a porter tell me to blow?*

*as in Cole Porter, "Blow, Gabriel, blow!"

**I have no objection whatsoever to offending Saul's sensibilities.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 26, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Temper, temper, temper, temper! no Fauré allusion there.

But there are four of them. And also there was your 'Some of those clues fit to a T. Some of those clues fit to a T. Some of those clues fit to a T. Some of those clues fit to a T.' Last of all was your 'Forte! Forte! Forte! Forte!', though I think you deleted that quickly (and I suppose if one subtracts the 'T' from the 'forte' then one gets the Faure!  ;D ;D ).

Quote from: Sforzando on June 26, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Rather: Did not a porter tell me to blow?*

*as in Cole Porter, "Blow, Gabriel, blow!"

I wouldn't have got it from that!


lukeottevanger

Of course, Allen Forte is something of an egghead himself, in more ways than one, but he doesn't fit your other clues! (And he doesn't compose AFAIK.)

karlhenning


(poco) Sforzando

#3192
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2008, 11:44:01 AM
But there are four of them. And also there was your 'Some of those clues fit to a T. Some of those clues fit to a T. Some of those clues fit to a T. Some of those clues fit to a T.' Last of all was your 'Forte! Forte! Forte! Forte!', though I think you deleted that quickly (and I suppose if one subtracts the 'T' from the 'forte' then one gets the Faure!  ;D ;D ).

I know. But the T's are what matter. There was only one 4-A, but there most definitely are 4 T's.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Can't expect everybody to pick up on every clue, but other clues to my composers are still in play. Have fun. And the composer relevant to the 4 T's is someone we've had previously, writing a work for his own instrument, presumably tuned in equal temperament.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

Let's narrow down:

COMPOSITIONS:
My name is both a symphony, and a famous modern ballet score.

A collision on the streets of Paris? What stupidity!

I am one of a set of eight compositions of this type.

COMPOSERS:
My bald head looks like an egg, and I provided elementary training for musicians at a major American university.

I can't hear you either!

PS: I also taught at a major American university, but you'd think from the name of my piece I'd be driving around the streets of Paris.

NATIONALITIES:
1 English
1 German
1 I'm not sure, could be Anglo but sounds German.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

#3194
Yes, it is, so the true list is:

First list, in two parts:
Part one
and
Part two

Second list (one long part)

New list:

Set by Luke
293 - Tchaikovsky - Festival Overture on the Danish National Anthem - (Sforzando)
294 - Tovey - Piano Concerto - (Johan)
295 - Wagner - Fantasy in F# minor - (Sforzando)
296 - Wagner-Wolf -? - (Johan)
297 - Valen - Piano Sonata no 2 - (Johan)
298 - ? -
299 - ? -
300 - Theo Ysaye - ? - (Sforzando)
301 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto no 2 - (revealed by Luke)
302 - Tchaikovsky - The Tempest - (Sforzando)
303 - Cage - ? - (Sforzando)
304 - ? -
305 - ? -
306 - Beethoven - Adagio (mandolin/piano) - (Sforzando)
307 - Berg - Four pieces for clarinet and piano - (Sforzando)
308 - Arensky - Piano Trio no 1 - (Sforzando)
309 - Antheil - Sonata no 2 'The Airplane' - (Greg)
310 - ? -
311 - Berstein - Wonderful Town - (Sforzando)
312 - Barber - Hesitation Tango - (Guido)
313 - Carpenter - Krazy Kat - (Sforzando)
314 - Bax - Harp Quintet - (Guido)
315 - Berg - Abschied - (Johan)
316 - Bernstein - La Bonne Cuisine - (Sforzando)
317 - ? -
318 - ? -
319 - ? -
320 - ? -
321 - ? -
322 - ? -
323 - ? -
324 - ? -
325 - ? -
326 - Prokofiev - Classical Symphony - (Sforzando)
327 - Shostakovich - Fugue in D flat major (from the 24) - (Sforzando)
328 - Sibelius - Symphony no 3 - (Mark)

Set by Greta
1 - Berio - Sequenza IXb - (Luke)
2 - Dallapiccola - Quaderno musicale di Annalibera - (Luke)
3 - Stravinsky - Petrouchka - (Luke)
4 - Brahms - op 119/3 - (Luke)
5 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Luke)
6 - Sibelius - Kullervo - (Luke)
7 - Grainger - Lincolnshire Posy - (Chrone)

Set by Chrone:
4 - Rogers - Guadalcanal March - (Mark)
5 - Hermann - Vertigo - (Luke)

Set by Sforzando
49 - Faure - Violin Sonata no 2 - (Luke)
50 - Sullivan - The Mikado - (Mark)
51 - Schutz - Ich ruf zu dir - (Luke)
52 - Puccini - La Rondine - (Luke)
53 - Puccini - Messa di Gloria - (Luke)
54 - Prokofiev - Piano Concerto 4 - (Luke)
55 - ? -
56 - Copland - 8 Dickinson Songs - (Luke)
57 - ? -
58 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
59 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
60 - Grieg - Slatter - (Luke)
61 - Beethoven - Kakadu Variations (Luke)
62 - Beethoven - Fugue for string quintet - (Luke)
63 - Prokofiev - Overture on Hebrew Themes - (Mark)
64 - Hindemith - Der Schwanendreher - (Luke)
65 - Verdi - Quartet - (Luke)
66 - Sullivan - Cox and Box - (Luke)
67 - Bernstein - Candide - (Luke)
68 - Sondheim - A Little Night Music - (Luke)
69 - Gershwin - An American in Paris - (Luke)
70 - Egge - Symphony no 3 (Louisville) - (Luke)
71 - Butterworth - A Shropshire Lad (Luke)
72 - Falla - El retabloe de Maese Pedro - (Luke)
73 - Wolf-Ferrari - IL segreto di Susanna - (Luke)
74 - Beethoven - Ah, perfido - (Johan)
75 - Berlioz - La Mort de Cleopatre - (Luke)
76 - ? -

Links to clues:
First basic clues to LO 293-302
first follow-up clues to LO 294-302
second follow-up clues to LO 295-302

Some clues to Sforzando's scores
....and some more
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lukeottevanger

#3195
Ooops, didn't update the links to clues. But I think we all know that they're in the last page or two.

I take it that Sforzando's remaining three refer to the last three remaining in his list, not 55 and 57 which (unless I've missed something) haven't been identified yet

No, that's not right....is it? I'm starting to get confused myself now, as to what is what, and what's been identified....

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
Ooops, didn't update the links to clues. But I think we all know that they're in the last page or two.

I take it that Sforzando's remaining three refer to the last three remaining in his list, not 55 and 57 which (unless I've missed something) haven't been identified yet

No, that's not right....is it? I'm starting to get confused myself now, as to what is what, and what's been identified....

Me too. I thought I only had three left to go, but is it really five? I hope I still have the originals on my hard drive. This is harder than playing tennis without a net. (And that is not a clue.)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on June 26, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
Me too. I thought I only had three left to go, but is it really five? I hope I still have the originals on my hard drive. This is harder than playing tennis without a net. (And that is not a clue.)

Would explain why this has been so hard - could well have been thinking of the wrong scores in some cases!

FWIW the ones I know about are:

The cello duet, which is quite early - no 55 I think
The piano + strings one, which was in the same set, so maybe is no 57
The baroque-looking one, which I remember was last of all, no 76

I can't remember what 62 and 72 looked like, if they really do remain. Maybe they were identified and I didn't update the list, though. Let me look back.....

lukeottevanger

#3198
OK, yes, 62 was the Falla, El retablo...

...and I think 72 must have been that Beethoven string quintet fugue.....

lukeottevanger

#3199
Yes, it is, so the true list is:

First list, in two parts:
Part one
and
Part two

Second list (one long part)

New list:

Set by Luke
293 - Tchaikovsky - Festival Overture on the Danish National Anthem - (Sforzando)
294 - Tovey - Piano Concerto - (Johan)
295 - Wagner - Fantasy in F# minor - (Sforzando)
296 - Wagner-Wolf - Paraphrase über "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" - (Johan)
297 - Valen - Piano Sonata no 2 - (Johan)
298 - ? -
299 - ? -
300 - Theo Ysaye - ? - (Sforzando)
301 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto no 2 - (revealed by Luke)
302 - Tchaikovsky - The Tempest - (Sforzando)
303 - Cage - ? - (Sforzando)
304 - ? -
305 - ? -
306 - Beethoven - Adagio (mandolin/piano) - (Sforzando)
307 - Berg - Four pieces for clarinet and piano - (Sforzando)
308 - Arensky - Piano Trio no 1 - (Sforzando)
309 - Antheil - Sonata no 2 'The Airplane' - (Greg)
310 - ? -
311 - Berstein - Wonderful Town - (Sforzando)
312 - Barber - Hesitation Tango - (Guido)
313 - Carpenter - Krazy Kat - (Sforzando)
314 - Bax - Harp Quintet - (Guido)
315 - Berg - Abschied - (Johan)
316 - Bernstein - La Bonne Cuisine - (Sforzando)
317 - ? -
318 - ? -
319 - ? -
320 - ? -
321 - ? -
322 - ? -
323 - ? -
324 - ? -
325 - ? -
326 - Prokofiev - Classical Symphony - (Sforzando)
327 - Shostakovich - Fugue in D flat major (from the 24) - (Sforzando)
328 - Sibelius - Symphony no 3 - (Mark)
329 - ? -
330 - ? -
331 - ? -
332 - ? -
333 - ? -
334 - ? -
335 - ? -
336 - ? -
337 - ? -
338 - ? -
339 - ? -
340 - ? -
341 - ? -
342 - ? -
343 - ? -
344 - ? -
345 - ? -


Set by Greta
1 - Berio - Sequenza IXb - (Luke)
2 - Dallapiccola - Quaderno musicale di Annalibera - (Luke)
3 - Stravinsky - Petrouchka - (Luke)
4 - Brahms - op 119/3 - (Luke)
5 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Luke)
6 - Sibelius - Kullervo - (Luke)
7 - Grainger - Lincolnshire Posy - (Chrone)

Set by Chrone:
4 - Rogers - Guadalcanal March - (Mark)
5 - Hermann - Vertigo - (Luke)

Set by Sforzando
49 - Faure - Violin Sonata no 2 - (Luke)
50 - Sullivan - The Mikado - (Mark)
51 - Schutz - Ich ruf zu dir - (Luke)
52 - Puccini - La Rondine - (Luke)
53 - Puccini - Messa di Gloria - (Luke)
54 - Prokofiev - Piano Concerto 4 - (Luke)
55 - ? -
56 - Copland - 8 Dickinson Songs - (Luke)
57 - Hindemith - The Four Temperaments - (Luke)
58 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
59 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
60 - Grieg - Slatter - (Luke)
61 - Beethoven - Kakadu Variations (Luke)
62 - Beethoven - Fugue for string quintet - (Luke)
63 - Prokofiev - Overture on Hebrew Themes - (Mark)
64 - Hindemith - Der Schwanendreher - (Luke)
65 - Verdi - Quartet - (Luke)
66 - Sullivan - Cox and Box - (Luke)
67 - Bernstein - Candide - (Luke)
68 - Sondheim - A Little Night Music - (Luke)
69 - Gershwin - An American in Paris - (Luke)
70 - Egge - Symphony no 3 (Louisville) - (Luke)
71 - Butterworth - A Shropshire Lad (Luke)
72 - Falla - El retabloe de Maese Pedro - (Luke)
73 - Wolf-Ferrari - IL segreto di Susanna - (Luke)
74 - Beethoven - Ah, perfido - (Johan)
75 - Berlioz - La Mort de Cleopatre - (Luke)
76 - Boyce - Symphony no 1 - (Luke)


and the ones I listed:

The cello duet, which is quite early - no 55 I think
The piano + strings one, which was in the same set, so maybe is no 57
The baroque-looking one, which I remember was last of all, no 76

are indeed the remaining ones from Sforzando