The unimportant news thread

[Ken B]

Some local news:

Oregon Republicans go missing to avoid climate change vote; governor sends police to find them

Current Democrat Governor Kate Brown advocated a boycott strategy in 2001, thus demonstrating - again - that if Democrats didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

Democrats fled to avoid a quorum call in Wisconsin just a few years ago, and bragged about it.

[amw]

I hope a future rules change also permits Democrats to do this in the US Senate. Definitely look forward to Patrick Leahy or whoever threatening to engage in fisticuffs with any Capitol Police officers sent to retrieve him.

[Ken B]

I hope a future rules change also permits Democrats to do this in the US Senate. Definitely look forward to Patrick Leahy or whoever threatening to engage in fisticuffs with any Capitol Police officers sent to retrieve him.

Future rule changes? You need to do some research. Such quorum calls happened numerous times in the civil rights era.

[amw]

As far as I know quorum in the US Senate is 51 members, so the minority can't bring all activity to a halt by leaving. If I'm wrong I have no idea why the minority hasn't been regularly using this tactic since at least 2009.

[Ken B]

As far as I know quorum in the US Senate is 51 members, so the minority can't bring all activity to a halt by leaving. If I'm wrong I have no idea why the minority hasn't been regularly using this tactic since at least 2009.

There have been cases of senators dragged back.
Curious as to the details I googled.
Standing Rule 6 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_Rules_of_the_United_States_Senate

[Ken B]

Anyone remember John C Calhoun?  He argued that blacks, due to their alleged incapacity, were better off enslaved, despite their objections. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/23/world/europe/abortion-mentally-disabled-uk.html

[JBS]

Anyone remember John C Calhoun?  He argued that blacks, due to their alleged incapacity, were better off enslaved, despite their objections. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/23/world/europe/abortion-mentally-disabled-uk.html

Reversed, rather quickly
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/24/court-appeal-blocks-mentally-womans-abortion/

[Ken B]

Reversed, rather quickly
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/24/court-appeal-blocks-mentally-womans-abortion/

Calhoun was reversed too, a it more slowly. I wonder though what lesser infringements against her, and others with similar conditions, would pass muster.

[greg]

More shenanigans by Antifa.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/30/andy-ngo-journalist-rally-injured/

[drogulus]

Some local news:

Oregon Republicans go missing to avoid climate change vote; governor sends police to find them

Current Democrat Governor Kate Brown advocated a boycott strategy in 2001, thus demonstrating - again - that if Democrats didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

     That's an odd point of view. Double standards are better than none, which is why we respect hypocrites. They have standards they violate. They can be shamed, as they will be the next time they pull the same stunt. Repubs can't be shamed, it's not in them. They are cynics. How could an action be OK because it was bad when Dems did it? I think this is called "concern trolling", is it not?

[Ken B]

     That's an odd point of view. Double standards are better than none, which is why we respect hypocrites. They have standards they violate. They can be shamed, as they will be the next time they pull the same stunt. Repubs can't be shamed, it's not in them. They are cynics. How could an action be OK because it was bad when Dems did it? I think this is called "concern trolling", is it not?

You might admire hypocrisy but it seems excessive to aspire to it.

[drogulus]

You might admire hypocrisy but it seems excessive to aspire to it.

     I respect the acknowledgement of standards even in the breach. For the cynic I have slight regard. Standards are just a weapon for them.

[JBS]

This happened about a mile from where I work, although I wasn't there when it happened. 
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/07/06/us/florida-plantation-explosion/index.html/

[greg]

This happened about a mile from where I work, although I wasn't there when it happened. 
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/07/06/us/florida-plantation-explosion/index.html/

Did you hear it?
When I was living back home in Lake County, FL, there was a propane factory that exploded a couple miles away, and we could hear what sounded like faint explosions for quite a while.

[JBS]

Did you hear it?
When I was living back home in Lake County, FL, there was a propane factory that exploded a couple miles away, and we could hear what sounded like faint explosions for quite a while.

I was at home at the time, about ten miles away,  If I did hear something, I would have thought it was thunder. 
The shockwave was enough to make the upper floor of the store in which I work shake enough to unnerve everyone up there at the time.

[Karl Henning]

This happened about a mile from where I work, although I wasn't there when it happened. 
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/07/06/us/florida-plantation-explosion/index.html/

Very glad you're safe!

[JBS]

Antifa activist attacks a migrant detention center, is killed by police
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-man-killed-at-ice-detention-center-manifesto

I suspect the man, and his antifa admirers, did not think his plan through very well.  Since if he had succeeded in burning it down,  he would have killed mostly migrants.

[greg]

I suspect the man, and his antifa admirers, did not think his plan through very well.

Which describes one of the biggest root problems they have- either they don't understand implications of their actions or they really are suicidal.

Of course i already saw an article from a mainstream site downplaying it.

[drogulus]

Which describes one of the biggest root problems they have- either they don't understand implications of their actions or they really are suicidal.

Of course i already saw an article from a mainstream site downplaying it.

     The Unibomber wrote a manifesto, too. I don't know whether it was downplayed or not, or even who the "they" is for either one.

     I see an antifa group says this guy is a martyr. I didn't know any such group endorsed suicide by cop.

     

[greg]

By "they" I mean Antifa and all the extremists who want to use mob rule to take away free speech.