The unimportant news thread

[drogulus]

You read one book, right? His shortest one?
Just checking.

     I don't know which one was the shortest. But as I said before I didn't read anything that would lead me to believe he would be as hostile to the West as he turned out to be.

     It also doesn't matter if he secretly liked some things about a free godless materialistic society, does it? He kept his praise secret or there was no secret to keep. It's all the same to me.

[JBS]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/10/americas/bolivia-new-election-audit/index.html

[Florestan]

^^^ At last! Excellent news. And: the fact that he didn't cling to power at all costs is to Morales' credit. He's obviously from a different stock than Maduro.

[milk]

^^^ At last! Excellent news. And: the fact that he didn't cling to power at all costs is to Morales' credit. He's obviously from a different stock than Maduro.

My socialist friends think it's a western conspiracy. By all accounts his policies lifted Bolivia. Yet, why did he not help the next generation to assume leadership in this service of his goals? Instead, he hung on in a bad way. Power corrupts.

[Florestan]

My socialist friends think it's a western conspiracy. By all accounts his policies lifted Bolivia.

My paternal aunt's Spanish husband is a card-carrying Socialist. He has visited Bolivia several times during the last decade and each time was aghast at the level of poverty and corruption he saw.

why did he not help the next generation to assume leadership in this service of his goals? Instead, he hung on in a bad way. Power corrupts.

Maybe because the next generation opposed his goals and policies which generated what my Socialist friend witnessed first-hand?

[Ken B]

Denmark is temporarily closing its border with Sweden.
It is news to me that European countries have borders; I have been repeatedly told borders are immoral.
Copenhagen has had 13 bombings this year!
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/11/as-bombings-spread-denmark-closes-border-with-sweden/

[drogulus]

     Checking IDs at the border doesn't seem that immoral. I'd settle for that.

[Ken B]

     Checking IDs at the border doesn't seem that immoral. I'd settle for that.

Canada is so backward we actually do that at polling stations!

[drogulus]

Canada is so backward we actually do that at polling stations!

     Do you have violent gangs of voters?

[Ken B]

     Do you have violent gangs of voters?

We do in fact have street thugs who intimidate voters and get violent. I posted about it on this thread. The thugs found an apologist for their thuggery here too.

[SimonNZ]

We do in fact have street thugs who intimidate voters and get violent. I posted about it on this thread. The thugs found an apologist for their thuggery here too.

I could explain how that misrepresents the discussion we had. But now you've apparently got me on ignore and can make cheap shots like that without having to bother yourself about what the response might be.

[drogulus]

     I'm glad I live where I do. If we had voter intimidation gangs we'd ask for their IDs. There's no need to bother the voters.

     

[zamyrabyrd]

Denmark is temporarily closing its border with Sweden.
It is news to me that European countries have borders; I have been repeatedly told borders are immoral.
Copenhagen has had 13 bombings this year!
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/11/as-bombings-spread-denmark-closes-border-with-sweden/

No need to shut the borders, just do background profiling on who wants to come in!

[Ken B]

No need to shut the borders, just do background profiling on who wants to come in!

Sweden is a very bomby place.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977?

Didn't use to be.

[zamyrabyrd]

Sweden is a very bomby place.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977?
Didn't use to be.

Gosh, wonder why? Could it be the M word? Migrants who never had any intention of assimilating to Scandinavian society? The thought is ridiculous anyway... All cultures are supposed to be equal and therefore mixable.

[Florestan]

Gosh, wonder why? Could it be the M word?

The M word (actually words) and the I word (actually words). They could all be safely lumped under the P or the L word.

[zamyrabyrd]

The M word (actually words) and the I word (actually words). They could all be safely lumped under the P or the L word.

Do you mean Poor and Lovable?
How about the C word, Criminal?

[zamyrabyrd]

Sweden is a very bomby place.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977?
Didn't use to be.

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on?

"This category of crime was not even logged prior to 2017. Then, in 2018, there were 162 explosions and in the past two months alone the bomb squad have been called to almost 30. 'Bangers, improvised explosives and hand grenades are behind most of the blasts', says Linda H Straaf, head of intelligence at Sweden's National Operations Department."

Words of wisdom so as not to scare the people, much less revealing it on CCN and the rest of the big media:

"This is a serious situation, but most people shouldn't be worried, because they are not going to be affected."

Gee, thanks! can you put this guarantee in writing?

Wow, you have to go half way through the article to find this which is pretty good for the BBC seeing they have similar problems of their own in explaining away local "gang violence":

"Swedish police do not record or release the ethnicity of suspects or convicted criminals, but intelligence chief Linda H Straaf says many do share a similar profile. "They have grown up in Sweden and they are from socio-economically weak groups, socio-economically weak areas, and many are perhaps second- or third-generation immigrants," she says.

Ideological debates about immigration have intensified since Sweden took in the highest number of asylum seekers per capita in the EU during the migrant crisis of 2015.

For many on the political right the explosions add fuel to their argument that Sweden has struggled to integrate migrants over the past two decades.
"In the future the situation might grow even bigger and even more problematic," says Mira Aksoy, who describes herself as a national conservative writer.
'Since they are in the same area, they are in the same mindset. It's easy for them to connect to each other. They don't feel like they should become a part of Sweden and they stay in their segregated communities and start doing crimes.'"

[Florestan]

Do you mean Poor and Lovable?
How about the C word, Criminal?

Islamism. Imams. Mosques.

Multiculturalism. Immigration. Insanity. Inanity.

Progressive. Left.

[Ken B]

Rod Stewart spent 23 years making an astounding model city. Yes, that Rod Stewart.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50403561