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Chronochromie

Debussy: La Mer +2
Rameau: Hippolyte et Aricie +1
Shostakovich: String Quartet No. 3 -1

Mahlerian

Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde +2
Schoenberg: String Quartet No. 2 in F-sharp minor, Op. 10 +1
Puccini: Madame Butterfly -1
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

SimonNZ

Beethoven Violin Concerto +2
Beethoven Eroica +1
Beethoven 9th -1

Glume Profusion

+2 Beethoven: Symphony #3
+1 Vivaldi: Il cimento dell'armonia e dell'inventione
-1 Mussorgsky: Boris Godunov

musicrom

Mozart: Symphony No. 40, +2
Sibelius: Violin Concerto, +1
Beethoven: Violin Concerto, -1

EigenUser

+2 Messiaen Turangalila-Symphonie (I have put far too much time and effort into analyzing this work not to defend it tooth-and-nail)
+1 Ockeghem Missa Prolationum

Honestly, I can't think of anything I'd want to give -1 to. Possibly Mozart 40 just because I don't like it, but that is just me. Or possibly the Glass, but again, that is my bias. Someone new to classical music might absolutely love these works.

It is funny. The two works which I have had particularly great success with when showing "new" people classical music are the ones which a couple of people seem to have personal vendettas against -- Messiaen's Turangalila-Symphonie and Reich's Music for 18 Musicians.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Ken B

Quote from: EigenUser on November 18, 2016, 03:25:29 PM
+2 Messiaen Turangalila-Symphonie (I have put far too much time and effort into analyzing this work not to defend it tooth-and-nail)
+1 Ockeghem Missa Prolationum

Honestly, I can't think of anything I'd want to give -1 to. Possibly Mozart 40 just because I don't like it, but that is just me. Or possibly the Glass, but again, that is my bias. Someone new to classical music might absolutely love these works.

It is funny. The two works which I have had particularly great success with when showing "new" people classical music are the ones which a couple of people seem to have personal vendettas against -- Messiaen's Turangalila-Symphonie and Reich's Music for 18 Musicians.

Are you working on a piano reduction of Turangalila?
Any kind of reduction?
;)

EigenUser

Quote from: Ken B on November 18, 2016, 04:02:47 PM
Are you working on a piano reduction of Turangalila?
Any kind of reduction?
;)

Didn't you see my analysis of parts of the work? (In case you didn't, click on the "earth" icon under my avatar). I put together a bunch of audio samples and score reductions and I also re-wrote parts of the score and made computerized audio files so that individual lines can be heard independently (i.e you can hear just woodwinds play in a section if they are doing something that I found important).
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

ritter

Ravel: Le Tombeau de Couperin (suite pour piano) +2
Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen +1
Vivaldi: Il Cimento... -1

Androcles

Messiaen The Book of the Blessed Sacrament for organ +2
Rachmaninov Piano Concerto  3 +1
Grisey Espaces -1
And, moreover, it is art in its most general and comprehensive form that is here discussed, for the dialogue embraces everything connected with it, from its greatest object, the state, to its least, the embellishment of sensuous existence.

Chronochromie

Messiaen: Livre du Saint Sacrament  +2
Mussorgsky: Boris Godunov +1
Bach, JS: Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin, BWV 1001-1006 -1

Ken B

Thomson, The Feast of Love 2
Messiaen, 3small liturgies 1
Messiaen Turangalila-1

SimonNZ

Messiaen Turangalila +2
Grisey Espaces +1
Rachmaninov PC3 -1

Androcles

+2 Rachmaninov 24 Preludes
+1 Shostakovich Symphony 8
-1 Cage Music of Changes
And, moreover, it is art in its most general and comprehensive form that is here discussed, for the dialogue embraces everything connected with it, from its greatest object, the state, to its least, the embellishment of sensuous existence.

ritter

Wagner Parsifal +2
Elliott Carter A Symphony of Three Orchestras +1
Rachmaninov Piano Concerto  No. 3 -1

Gaspard de la nuit

Why would anyone need to be recommended these hugely famous works by Beethoven, Bach and company? Does anyone really need help discovering Beethovens Ninth or the Mass in B minor? I get the impression that many are just trying to see their favorite (very well known) works listed above Modernist works. I'm going to recommend recent works that people might actually need help discovering and I hope they're not going to be voted off by people who've never even heard them.

+2 Saariaho Je sens un deuxième coeur
+1 Hans Abrahamsen Let me tell you
-1 Beethoven Violin Concerto

Ken B

Quote from: Gaspard de la nuit on November 20, 2016, 06:00:44 AM
Why would anyone need to be recommended these hugely famous works by Beethoven, Bach and company? Does anyone really need help discovering Beethovens Ninth or the Mass in B minor? I get the impression that many are just trying to see their favorite (very well known) works listed above Modernist works. I'm going to recommend recent works that people might actually need help discovering and I hope they're not going to be voted off by people who've never even heard them.

+2 Saariaho Je sens un deuxième coeur
+1 Hans Abrahamsen Let me tell you
-1 Beethoven Violin Concerto

Modernist works never find an audience. Look at the obscurity into which say Bad Romance or Candle in the Wind have slipped. Most people, obsessed with music written decades or centuries before their time, ignore the contemporary.

Schubert Schoene Muellerin 2
Kallinikov Symphony 1, 1
Ives Symphony 4, -1

Mahlerian

Mahler: Ruckert-Lieder +2
Monteverdi (et al.?): L'incoronazione di Poppea +1
Nielsen: Syphony No. 4 -1
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Gaspard de la nuit

Quote from: Ken B on November 20, 2016, 07:01:26 AM
Modernist works never find an audience. Look at the obscurity into which say Bad Romance or Candle in the Wind have slipped. Most people, obsessed with music written decades or centuries before their time, ignore the contemporary.

Schubert Schoene Muellerin 2
Kallinikov Symphony 1, 1
Ives Symphony 4, -1

Hardy har har

SimonNZ

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Quote from: Gaspard de la nuit on November 20, 2016, 06:00:44 AM
Why would anyone need to be recommended these hugely famous works by Beethoven, Bach and company? Does anyone really need help discovering Beethovens Ninth or the Mass in B minor? I get the impression that many are just trying to see their favorite (very well known) works listed above Modernist works. I'm going to recommend recent works that people might actually need help discovering and I hope they're not going to be voted off by people who've never even heard them.


It might make them curious of contemporary works if they see them listed alongside the warhorses in our estimation.

(and, yeah, I hope the people that vote them down have actually heard them, and not just doing it as some kind of policy)