The Snyprrr Appreciation Thread.

[San Antone]

The "Back Room" section has a small minus button over on the far right. If you click that, it collapses the section so that it no longer appears on the forum homepage.

Thanks.  A good idea.

[Ken B]

I obviously haven't been here long enough.

His music posts are great, but I don't see the point in abusing freedom of speech to spread hateful sentiments.

An exercise is not an abuse. There is of course no point in exercising freedom of speech to spread hateful sentiments.

[Mahlerian]

. . . except for the title Grand Bamboula which is unbelievably offensive in French, bamboula being one of the most offensive racist insults in French.

Kind of what happens when your aesthetic position is completely "disinterested" from worldly concerns because you can afford to live with your cat and husband in a three-story semi-detached townhouse on one of the Upper West Side's most expensive streets. (And a country house in New Jersey, apparently.) That's probably a discussion for a different thread though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Do either of you know when that usage developed?  The English language Wiki doesn't mention it until last year, which is over 30 years after Wuorinen wrote a piece using it in a title.  On the French Wiki, on the other hand, the page was created for the slur back in 2005, and only afterwards modified to show the origin of the term in a type of drum and dance.

[amw]

My assumption has always been that it goes back to the French colonisation of West Africa, during which the French did some not very nice things, but I don't know for sure. There are no signs Wuorinen is aware of, or has ever acknowledged, the offensive nature of the word, which is the larger problem I was thinking of.

[bwv 1080]

Well you know that bit about ass u me

So before Charles has to do the white oppressor perp walk, Maybe y'all could just have looked at the Wikipedia entry to see that bamboula refers to a drum, going back to an 1845 Gottschalk piece, with the French racist slur being a more recent usage of the word.

[amw]

There are no signs Wuorinen is aware of, or has ever acknowledged, the offensive nature of the word [regardless of whether that usage existed at the time he wrote the piece], which is the larger problem I was thinking of.

[Mandryka]

Why are his posts being moderated?

[Ken B]

There is no sign that the Han Dynasty scribes were aware of, or ever acknowledged, the offensiveness of the swastika, which is the larger problem someone is thinking of.

[Marc]

I haven't read anything about 'General Classical Music' yet.
If there ever was a Diner thread, then it would be this one.

[ComposerOfAvantGarde]

Well you know that bit about ass u me

So before Charles has to do the white oppressor perp walk, Maybe y'all could just have looked at the Wikipedia entry to see that bamboula refers to a drum, going back to an 1845 Gottschalk piece, with the French racist slur being a more recent usage of the word.

Why would you even begin to label Wuorinen himself as some kind of oppressor?

amw seems to be making a different point entirely, about French colonialism and the history of the word according to French usage. It could certainly be perceived as having ill intentions if Grand Bamboula was performed in France, however, I presume that kind of reception would simply be the result of a misunderstanding due to lack of information.

[Mandryka]

Do either of you know when that usage developed?  The English language Wiki doesn't mention it until last year, which is over 30 years after Wuorinen wrote a piece using it in a title.  On the French Wiki, on the other hand, the page was created for the slur back in 2005, and only afterwards modified to show the origin of the term in a type of drum and dance.

This suggests that by the time of the first world war, bamboula was racist

http://www.jeuneafrique.com/402466/societe/bamboula-histoire-dune-injure-raciste-ancree-limaginaire-francais/

Des « bamboulas » pour sodomiser les « boches »

Mais c'est en 1914, avec l'arrivée des tirailleurs sénégalais sur le front que le terme se charge lourdement de mépris. « Le mot renvoie alors à une imagerie alliant sauvagerie, cannibalisme, sexualité animale et rire, naïveté enfantine supposée des soldats noirs », souligne Marie Treps. On la retrouve dans des caricatures du magazine français L'Illustration, alors abondamment diffusé. Le tirailleur sénégalais, personnage à la fois violent et « rigolo » dans les dessins de l'époque, menace par exemple les soldats allemands de sodomie.

« Le terme a beaucoup été utilisé au moment des grandes expositions coloniales, remarque la linguiste. Il flatte le paternalisme du colon. Derrière le terme « bamboula », il y a l'idée que les Noirs sont des grands enfants qu'il faut civiliser. Et finalement, ce qui est commode à l'époque c'est que l'être humain disparaît derrière sa caricature. Ainsi, en 1914, ce ne sont pas des humains que l'on envoie au front se faire tuer, seulement des « bamboulas ». On occulte la violence qui est faite à une population. La maladresse du syndicaliste sur France 5 est troublante : c'est ce terme ancien qui lui vient spontanément pour dénoncer les insultes qui sont également faites aux policiers, preuve que le mot est toujours présent dans l'inconscient post-colonial français. Et c'est une manière, encore une fois, de dissimuler les violences subies par les Noirs. »

[Mandryka]

Why are his posts being moderated?

Let me repeat the question for the forum's moderators, in case it gets lost in the stuff about bamboula.

Why are snyprr's posts being moderated?

[Karl Henning]

Well, with the shouting, this is officially a Don't you realize who I am?! Answer me! deal, eh?

What if the moderators are just giving you the opportunity to do your own research?

(Anyone who considers this "poetry" ought to get out more.  A lot more.)


In the Compulsive Disassociative CD Collecting Disease (CDCDCD) thread, if you please:

nice pillows!!



All these old ladies are hitting on me. fuuuuuuuuu.......

Wow, I haven't had any fun since I got here five long years ago.


(trance)



ok, snap out of it.... (shivers).... wow, that was scary ten seconds there....



Seriously, I've asked every female I know.... turns out I'm hot for the lesbian too, wgh.... and she's a political lesbian, so it's all in here head, ugh ugh.... and she's the only one who is at all interesting, but then she gets on the soap box....


aaaaahhhhhh

Can just ONE girl I'M interested in be interested in me too??? Fuuuu..... I'm tired of just getting the ones who like ME. At this point, I seem to have only attracted women  that I feel I need to be rude to to get them to stop.

"So, honey, you come here often?" Yes, the oldest drunk lady came on to me. I mean, they all say I'm handsome, and bla bla, but I'm dying.....

I'm at the point where I just want to ask random women if they're up for some fun. I've already been uber rejected for being a chump, so why not just...... uh...... I don't know- if girls like 'asshole bad boys' well I just don't do 'asshole' well- they REALLY think I'm an ass when I try to be the bad boy.


so depressed... just me and Schnittke... hangin out..... fuuuu.....


I even thought about "spending money", but, no, that's not even real, is it? (and don't make me tell you how I know)


No equality as long as they have all the p****.




sorry, had to let that all out- it's a new year and ....

You know, the only place I really really forget my misery is in the shower. Warm water seems to make things go away. That and a giant constitutional. Otherwise- why do I even want to eat since I have no one to share it with?

I made my own English Toffee- why am I not a catch?? (I make my own pizza, I make english toffe,- I mean, wtf ladies???)
\

It's funny though- I'm sure the ladies on this site have had quite a dose of the snyprrr brand, and I can only imagine my standing would be pretty low- unless a flattering pic takes all that away?

How cultured really do I want my lady?

Anyhow, that's enough food for the lions for one post   (I just don't care, do I?) Am I like Marty Pufkin? (Paul Schaeffer)

nope, no fake jews running the show, nope, not at all ("JEWS" COMES UP AS A MISSPELLED WORD,LOL)


btw- MY EEEYEEES

Not at all, my dear Herman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shyster

It is by mere coincidence that Weiner is a Jewish lawyer (if he is a lawyer?)!

Also, keep in mind that Arabs are of Semitic origin too. I know that that minor fact gets in the way of Zionist victim posturing, but hey, into every life a little rain must fall. And let's not get into who is an Edomite and who isn't. I know for a fact this is the only topic on planet earth one is not allowed to question or discuss or anything. Remember, last week Netanyahu, to the whole world, said he spoke for all Jews, i.e., if you do not tow MY line, you are either an anti-semite, or a self loathing jew. So, what, are my creds moot? Who's the anti-semite?

Oy vey, Herman, why don't we just start the Jewish Question Thread and just be done with the hinting? yeesh!!

I'm sorry if I'm not one of those "everything's anti-semitism" Jews. All sex is rape, btw. Only the devil has blue eyes, etc.,...


Hey, I'm sorry, I just couldn't think of the goy word for shyster. What is it, for future reference?


In a way, this reminds me of what it was like talking to certain female lovers of mine in the past. If I related a story of my day, and there happened to be a person (or animal) with a vagina in the story, well, let me tell you, all of a sudden I was cheating,... so, I learned to turn everyone in my stories into a male. So, I'm sorry I used a 'bad' word, Herman, and just remember that, if you ever hear me tell a story in the future, you'll never know now if the person I'm talking about is a jew or not. I do this to protect you, Herman, from,... is it?... YOUR antisemitism? Is it antisemetic for a jew to use the word shyster??

I only go on, because these days, calling out someone as an 'antisemite' seems to be the worst thing you can possibly say about someone (unless of course it's an "antisemitic pedophiliac"). Is it antiseme to criticize ANY aspect of the State of Israel?? Some certainly believe so.

Shall I change the Thread Title, Herman, and get us all barred??

anti-semitism, indeed.

Weiner's a weiner, pffft. For once, just let a jew fall without calling anyone The Name (is it Hashem, or AntiSem?).

RANT: off

[ComposerOfAvantGarde]

so that's why his posts are being moderated.

[Gurn Blanston]

Let me repeat the question for the forum's moderators, in case it gets lost in the stuff about bamboula.

Why are snyprr's posts being moderated?

If it was something that was open for public discussion, I would have discussed it with the public a long time ago. If I had business with you, you wouldn't be bloody happy if I posted it all out here for everyone to read. I respect privacy, as should we all.

GB

[ComposerOfAvantGarde]

If it was something that was open for public discussion, I would have discussed it with the public a long time ago. If I had business with you, you wouldn't be bloody happy if I posted it all out here for everyone to read. I respect privacy, as should we all.

GB

Hear hear.

Curious minds though......

[Karl Henning]

so that's why his posts are being moderated.

With an alcoholic, sometimes you firmly take the glass out of his hand.

It's a different kind of wagon, but snypsss has an imperfect history of being near, let alone on, it . . . .

[Mahlerian]

This suggests that by the time of the first world war, bamboula was racist

http://www.jeuneafrique.com/402466/societe/bamboula-histoire-dune-injure-raciste-ancree-limaginaire-francais/

Thanks for the information.

[zamyrabyrd]

This may be OT, but does anyone remember the guy who was channelling Glenn Gould?

That was quirky fun as much as I regard snyprrr as harmless and good for some chuckles.

[bwv 1080]

This may be OT, but does anyone remember the guy who was channelling Glenn Gould?

That was quirky fun as much as I regard snyprrr as harmless and good for some chuckles.

Yes, I forgot about that

And wasnt there also a guy who had some conspiracy theory about someone else writing Mozart's pieces?