What are you listening 2 now?

[Harry]

I already have the Chandos (which is great) - should I get this one as well Harry?

No Jeffrey, the Chandos is more than excellent. But it is budget priced at JPC, just 7,99€, so maybe you could consider it. Lukasz Borowicz, gives a very good interpretation.

[vandermolen]

I am so very sorry for you!  That was a horrible thing to have said to you!  All of us have different tastes with some overlapping and some being the polar opposite, but we need to respectful of each other's tastes...and most of all to value the person.

PD

+1

[vandermolen]

I don't have the Chandos so don't know any comparison, the CPO was my first exposure, but I did love the music and performance and want to listen again soon.

Thanks 

[vandermolen]

No Jeffrey, the Chandos is more than excellent. But it is budget priced at JPC, just 7,99€, so maybe you could consider it. Lukasz Borowicz, gives a very good interpretation.

OK Harry - helpful - many thanks.

[Karl Henning]

I am so very sorry for you!  That was a horrible thing to have said to you!  All of us have different tastes with some overlapping and some being the polar opposite, but we need to respectful of each other's tastes...and most of all to value the person.

PD

+ 2

[Brian]

Somebody wrote me a PM today on GMG, he stated I was a collector of worthless composers. He had not seen a decent composer that was worth the trouble of listening to, but was eagerly promoted by me, a worthless and uncritical listener. Well, I am proud wearing the title of a collector of being a collector of worthless composers, and you know what, here's is another one, probably worthless but hey, I listen mainly to worthless composers, so....

Anyone who's spending time sending insulting PMs to people on here (1) is a coward, (2) takes this conversation far too seriously, (3) has too much time on their hands, (4) is petty and dislikable, and (5) needs to mind their own business.

[SonicMan46]

   

Hi Que - in the last 3-4 months, I've had an expansion of my Woelfl collection, now close to a dozen CDs; quoted at the bottom is a list of his known works (more exits and will likely surface?) (Source); what I own (in italics) are all of the piano concertos, the two symphonies, half or fewer of the string quartets, and just a dozen or so solo piano sonatas + 3 duets w/ harp.  As shown by the images below of my keyboard discs, all but Colladant are on modern pianos (second quote are the pieces on my recordings) - cannot find much more available w/ her on fortepiano.  But I suspect that 'new' recordings of his works will periodically appear.  Dave

Nakamatsu - Sonata Op. 25 & Sonatas Op. 33, Nos. 1-3
Maria Riva - V.1 - Sonata WoO, Sonata Op. 38, & Sonata Op 27, No. 2; V.2 - Sonatas Op. 6, Nos. 1-3 & Sonata Op. 58
Colladant - V. 2 - Sonatas Op. 28, Nos. 1-3; V. 3 - Op. 37, 44, & 29 - Duos, fortepiano + harp

Piano Concertos
Piano Concerto No. 1 op. 20 in G major (ca 1802-1803)
Piano Concerto No. 2 op.26 (published c.1806)
Piano Concerto No. 3 op.32 in F major
Piano Concerto No. 4 op. 36 in G major "The Calm" (published c.1808) - one movement only
Piano Concerto No. 5 op. 43 in C major "Grand Military Concerto" (1799?)
Piano Concerto No. 6 op. 49 in D major "The Cuckoo" (published 1809)

Symphonies
Symphony in G minor Op. 40.' Dedicated to Luigi Cherubini.
Symphony in C major Op. 41.' Dedicated to Johann Peter Salomon. Parts available at the Moravian Music Foundation - see OCLC 905233657.
IMSLP has an autograph manuscript of an 1807 "Symphony No.3" by Woelfl (in one movement, or one movement of a larger work.)
A publication ca.1825 was made of 3 "Grand Symphonies" by Wölfl. (The British Library record does not give an opus number.)
The Moldenhauer archive has (in manuscript, though possibly not autograph) part of what is described as "J. Woelfl's 5th grand sinfonia : for full band".

String Quartets
3 String Quartets Op. 4 dedicated to Leopold Staudinger
String Quartets Op. 5 (3 or more?)
6 String Quartets Op. 10. Dedicated to Count Moritz Fries. - only No. 1 & 4
3 String Quartets Op. 30. Dedicated to Mr. Bassi Guaita.
Six String Quartets op.51. Published by Lavenu in London.

Operas (8 listed - check link)

Other works
68 Sonatas for the piano, several sonates for piano and violin, 18 piano trios, and some 4-hands music - only some of sonatas
Grand Duo in D minor for Pianoforte and Violoncello op. 31. Dedicated to Madame Hollander
Clarinet concerto in B♭ major (premiered 1796)
Variations, rondoós, German dances...

[Karl Henning]

Anyone who's spending time sending insulting PMs to people on here (1) is a coward, (2) takes this conversation far too seriously, (3) has too much time on their hands, (4) is petty and dislikable, and (5) needs to mind their own business.

Thank you for stating all this!

[SonicMan46]

Continuing today w/ Wolfie & Hogwood - Symphonies 25, 29, 30, D Major (K.203), CDs 8 & 9 - Dave

Mozart, WA - Symphonies w/ Hogwood, Schròder, and the Academy of Ancient Music - the 19-CD box recorded from 1978-1985; the pic of the 'band' is from 1989 (Source) - starting from the beginning when Wolfie was a pre-teen/teen and likely will selectively choose the discs, although nothing wrong w/ hearing the whole set -    Dave

 

[Daverz]

Somebody wrote me a PM today on GMG, he stated I was a collector of worthless composers. He had not seen a decent composer that was worth the trouble of listening to, but was eagerly promoted by me, a worthless and uncritical listener.

I've had some catty things to say about GMGers who dismiss music I hold in high esteem (I remember one exchange with someone dismissing Berwald, a composer I consider a genius.)   But to PM someone out of the blue to tell them that they are a worthless listener?  That's beyond the pale. 

TD: Jindrich Feld, Viola Concerto



A fun work.  Feld likes giving the percussion license to go a bit wild.

[Que]

Hi Que - in the last 3-4 months, I've had an expansion of my Woelfl collection, now close to a dozen CDs; quoted at the bottom is a list of his known works (more exits and will likely surface?) (Source); what I own (in italics) are all of the piano concertos, the two symphonies, half or fewer of the string quartets, and just a dozen or so solo piano sonatas + 3 duets w/ harp.  As shown by the images below of my keyboard discs, all but Colladant are on modern pianos (second quote are the pieces on my recordings) - cannot find much more available w/ her on fortepiano.  But I suspect that 'new' recordings of his works will periodically appear.  Dave

Upon revisiting I'm again impressed and charmed by Wölfl's music.
Building om Mozart's legacy, with a touch of Clementi and a forebarer of Schubert. A wonderful and original mix. Virtuosic (he was a keyboard lion) but with an unforced, natural flow. I'm tempted to say no less interesting and of no less quality than Clementi.

My Colladant set has 17 piano sonatas: nos. 1-3 Op. 28; nos. 1-3 Op. 6; nos. 1-3 Op. 33; nos. 1-3 Op. 54; sonata Op. 27; nos. 1-3 Op. 15; Grande Sonate. Plus the 3 trios for pianoforte and harp, pictured by you, and piano trios nos. 1-3 Op. 23.

[vandermolen]

Erkki Salmenhaara Symphony No. 4 (1971/2)
One of the great discoveries of last year for me after Harry and I managed to track it down to the Fuga Music Shop in Helsinki!

Love this photo:

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I've had some catty things to say about GMGers who dismiss music I hold in high esteem (I remember one exchange with someone dismissing Berwald, a composer I consider a genius.)   But to PM someone out of the blue to tell them that they are a worthless listener?  That's beyond the pale. 

TD: Jindrich Feld, Viola Concerto



A fun work.  Feld likes giving the percussion license to go a bit wild.

That looks like a fun album!  Feld's music I know a tiny bit (cello), but I don't know the other two composers.  Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them and also how you like her playing. 

Pd

[Daverz]

That looks like a fun album!  Feld's music I know a tiny bit (cello), but I don't know the other two composers.  Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them and also how you like her playing. 

Pd

I'm not a viola hater, but have to admit that a whole disc of viola concertos was a bit too much for my attention span, so I'll have to give the other works my undivided attention at another time.

[Artem]

I bought this for Feldman's arrangement of Cage's Cheap Imitation. After listening to it I feel it is nothing to write home about. The sparseness of Cage's original composition is more enjoyable.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I'm not a viola hater, but have to admit that a whole disc of viola concertos was a bit too much for my attention span, so I'll have to give the other works my undivided attention at another time.

I find with that albums featuring one instrument (either with or without an orchestra, etc.) that I've learned to not play it all in one go--particularly if it is new music to me.  I find that I do better varying it up--create my own radio station/playlist as it were.

PD

[SonicMan46]

Upon revisiting I'm again impressed and charmed by Wölfl's music.
Building om Mozart's legacy, with a touch of Clementi and a forebarer of Schubert. A wonderful and original mix. Virtuosic (he was a keyboard lion) but with an unforced, natural flow. I'm tempted to say no less interesting of of no less quality than Clementi.

My Colladant set has 17 piano sonatas: nos. 1-3 Op. 28; nos. 1-3 Op. 6; nos. 1-3 Op. 33; nos. 1-3 Op. 54; sonata Op. 27; nos. 1-3 Op. 15; Grande Sonate. Plus the 3 trios for pianoforte and harp, pictured by you, and piano trios nos. 1-3 Op. 23.

+1 - definitely agree w/ your comments - wonderful composer and must have been impressive sitting at a fortepiano w/ his height and hand size! 

Would have loved to see his 'duel' w/ Beethoven - must have looked like 'Mutt & Jeff'?  At any rate, I hope that some of these 'active' fortepianists and their production companies get a yearning to put some Woelfl recordings?  Dave

[Karl Henning]

CD 7:

LvB

Pf Sonata № 23 in f minor, Op. 57 « Appassionata »
Pf Sonata № 26 in E^b, Op. 81a « Les Adieux »
Pf Sonata № 29 in B^b, Op. 106 « Hammerklavier »

[Madiel]

Anyone who's spending time sending insulting PMs to people on here (1) is a coward, (2) takes this conversation far too seriously, (3) has too much time on their hands, (4) is petty and dislikable, and (5) needs to mind their own business.

Far better to insult people's musical tastes out here on the boards like Harry does?

Because that's what none of you are talking about. But he's done it. He has implied or outright said on various occasions that if you don't like all the composers that he likes, there must be something wrong with you.

That's the context in which the message was most likely sent. And no, I know nothing about the message. But when people line up to buy into Harry's innocent victim routine there needs to be some perspective. I'm fine with saying it's not okay to insult Harry's musical taste so long as the same rule applies to Harry and he's not allowed to say there's something wrong with a person who doesn't like the same music as he does.

Please note I am NOT talking about me personally.

[Brian]

Huh. It's true that there are many, many, many composers that Harry enjoys that I do not. There are quite a few Harry favorites I think are pretty dull. And the same goes for reverse (I love Harnoncourt's Schubert, he hates it). But I haven't ever had an unpleasant conversation with him about it or been the target of insults.

In general, there are a LOT of people on GMG who take it personally when someone else does not like music they like, or likes music they don't, etc. Which I never understand in any particular. Like, yes it may be frustrating that not everyone shares your particular joys. But...that's humanity?? We're all different?? It's totally okay if Mirror Image doesn't love Vivaldi or I don't love Stravinsky or whatever?? Why does anyone insult anyone else's tastes?

...except people who love Grofe, they deserve it  *

*a joke...ish