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AnotherSpin

Quote from: Todd on October 04, 2023, 07:56:06 AMI'm guessing you have never visited the town of Antelope, Oregon.

I guess you mean Rajneesh, Oregon?  8)  No, I never been to this part of US.

I have a friend in Odessa who spent several years with Osho, including in Oregon. His recollections are very different from the official version of the authorities. I tend to trust someone who has his personal first-hand experience of what happened there.

Todd

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 04, 2023, 08:15:40 AMI guess you mean Rajneesh, Oregon?

No, I mean Antelope, Oregon.  That's why I wrote Antelope, Oregon.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

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Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 04, 2023, 06:16:25 AMWho depends and benefits more from whom, the people of ideas from the material world, or vice versa?  ;)

It's a symbiosis actually, but it's curious that many "people of ideas" wish to destroy the very society that ensures the material support for both their existence and that of their ideas.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 04, 2023, 06:38:39 AMWhat if? How do you know? ;D

Because claiming that Homer, Dante, Cervantes, Shakespeare, Goethe, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky were nobody compared to Gorki is absurdity on stilts.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

vandermolen

H G Wells 'The War of the Worlds'
Bizarrely set in the villages where my in-laws live near Woking!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Florestan on October 04, 2023, 09:45:41 AMIt's a symbiosis actually, but it's curious that many "people of ideas" wish to destroy the very society that ensures the material support for both their existence and that of their ideas.  ;D

History is a continuous process of destroying the old world and creating the new. Ideas come first. If you think otherwise, no problem.

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Florestan on October 04, 2023, 09:52:21 AMBecause claiming that Homer, Dante, Cervantes, Shakespeare, Goethe, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky were nobody compared to Gorki is absurdity on stilts.  ;D

First, you didn't read the book mentioned, and you can't know. Second, each of the authors you named is unique in their own way. The same can be said about each of them. Osho believed that Gorky was one of them. Obviously, he had his own reasons for thinking so, and there is no point in arguing with it. De gustibus non est disputandum.

Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 04, 2023, 10:59:29 AMFirst, you didn't read the book mentioned

What makes you believe I didn't?

Quoteeach of the authors you named is unique in their own way. The same can be said about each of them. Osho believed that Gorky was one of them.

No, he believed that Gorki was the only one. Read again:

Gorky must be counted as the suprememost artist of the whole world. Particularly in The Mother he reaches to the highest peak of the art of writing. Nobody before and nobody after....

Nobody before and nobody after --- it doesn't get any clearer, and more absurd, than that. But by all means, feel free to agree with him.




"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

AnotherSpin

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Quote from: Florestan on October 04, 2023, 11:09:39 AMWhat makes you believe I didn't?

No, he believed that Gorki was the only one. Read again:

Gorky must be counted as the suprememost artist of the whole world. Particularly in The Mother he reaches to the highest peak of the art of writing. Nobody before and nobody after....

Nobody before and nobody after --- it doesn't get any clearer, and more absurd, than that. But by all means, feel free to agree with him.






Of course, you may have read Gorky, as an adult, and not in your school's required reading programme. Maybe even in Russian. ;)

Osho's words, which you are so excited about, mean that no one has written about what Gorky wrote in Mother. And that no one has written like Gorky either before or after him. The same can be said of a great many writers, and not necessarily the greatest. In Osho's book that I mentioned above, he talks about 168 different books by different authors. All these books are unique in Osho's opinion, and each one is unrivalled in its own sense. Nobody before and nobody after...

By the way, I'm finishing up Mother. An amazing book indeed. With every page it becomes clearer what Osho meant. I found it interesting to compare the original with two different English translations. The translations definitely do not convey Gorky's language, which is incredibly imaginative and symbolic. I wonder in which translation Osho was reading Mother. English, or one of the languages of India.

Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 04, 2023, 09:21:17 PMOsho's words, which you are so excited about

Oh, I couldn't care less about Osho's opinions, they are hardly authoritative. I just commented on them at face value. I have no interest in pursuing the topic any further than that.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Florestan on October 04, 2023, 09:25:42 PMOh, I couldn't care less about Osho's opinions, they are hardly authoritative. I just commented on them at face value. I have no interest in pursuing the topic any further than that.


No problem. I am just looking at information online about Gorky's publications in India. They say the novel Mother was the most popular foreign book in India in the 20th century. Apparently Osho was not the only one who liked Gorky.

AnotherSpin


andolink

Just started this yesterday - -

Albert Vigoleis Thelen: The Island of Second Sight

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Karl Henning

My friend Peter lent me this long ago, and I'm finally reading it. It's much more interesting than my longstanding apparent neglect would suggest. @Cato should seek it at a local library.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

JBS


Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

SimonNZ

#12715
Putting a couple of things aside to knock of this quickie:



Deliver Me From Nowhere: The Making Of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska


and setting up yet another play of the album


Karl Henning

Quote from: SimonNZ on October 08, 2023, 05:37:53 PMPutting a couple of things aside to knock of this quickie:



Deliver Me From Nowhere: The Making Of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska


and setting up yet another play of the album


I do enjoy that album.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Artem

Quote from: andolink on October 06, 2023, 11:56:37 AMJust started this yesterday - -

Albert Vigoleis Thelen: The Island of Second Sight


That's quite an undertaking. Good luck.

andolink

Quote from: Artem on October 09, 2023, 09:22:56 AMThat's quite an undertaking. Good luck.
So far so good!

It's incredibly erudite, allusive ... and brilliantly witty.  I'll let you know what I think of it in a few months when I'm done.
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