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AnotherSpin

Quote from: vers la flamme on May 03, 2024, 04:08:04 PMThis definitely whetted my interest, thanks. I've long been curious about the wave among generations previous to my own of Europeans traveling to India for extended periods of time on quests of spiritual self-discovery, a wave that it appears you may have been a part of–so maybe I'll have to grill you on your experiences some day  ;D

 :)

T. D.

Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 02, 2024, 09:40:58 PMI remember, many years ago, enjoying Maugham's Of Human Bondage, but I tried to read it again and fount it utterly insufferable. The Razor's Edge might be a better bet.

The Moon and Sixpence, somewhat based on Paul Gauguin, is rather good. I enjoyed it.


Mandryka

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Quote from: vers la flamme on May 02, 2024, 02:38:05 PMIt was the afternoon of my eighty-first birthday, and I was in bed with my catamite when Ali announced that the archbishop had come to see me.

It was this quote which made me think of Corvo's Hadrian VII - that novel and his Desire and Pursuit of the Whole are life changing. Well worth reading about Baron Corvo's life too - A J Symons Quest for Corvo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Rolfe


Symons, Rolf, Burgess - a demi monde of particularly English and rather louche eccentrics, free thinkers and bon viveurs - which doesn't exist any more except on GMG.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Mandryka on May 04, 2024, 12:00:20 AMIt was this quote which made me think of Corvo's Hadrian VII - that novel and his Desire and Pursuit of the Whole are life changing. Well worth reading about Baron Corvo's life too - A J Symons Quest for Corvo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Rolfe


Symons, Rolf, Burgess - a demi monde of particularly English and rather louche eccentrics, free thinkers and bon viveurs - which doesn't exist any more except on GMG.

What kind of animal is this, a "free thinker"? :D 

BTW, never heard of Rolfe. And Symons too, will check.

steve ridgway

Lunar Photographs from Apollos 8, 10, and 11 - NASA 1971.


Mandryka

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Quote from: AnotherSpin on May 04, 2024, 12:46:40 AMWhat kind of animal is this, a "free thinker"? :D 



A free thinker is someone whose opinions are not by consensus or dogmatic assertions. It's an Enlightenment idea
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

AnotherSpin

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Quote from: Mandryka on May 05, 2024, 01:36:45 AMA free thinker is someone whose opinions are not by consensus or dogmatic assertions. It's an Enlightenment idea

On the other hand, the Enlightenment led many different people to the same conditioned stereotypical beliefs, didn't it? However, any beliefs are stereotypical and externally conditioned, even the most "brave" ones... :(

Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on May 05, 2024, 04:49:26 AMOn the other hand, the Enlightenment led many different people to the same conditioned stereotypical beliefs, didn't it?

Say it again and again, amen!  ;D

To think freely is great. To think rightly is greater still. (I once heard this quoted as the motto of the Uppsala University but I wasn't able to ascertain it.)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

San Antone

Native Wisdom for White Minds: Daily Reflections Inspired by the Native Peoples of the World - Anne Wilson Schaef



You don't have to be white to have a white mind.

What is a white mind? As Anne Wilson Schaef learned during her travels throughout the world among Native Peoples, anyone raised in modern Western society or by Western culture can have a white mind. White minds are trapped in a closed system of thinking that sees life in black and white, either/or terms; they are hierarchical and mechanistic; they see nature as a force to be tamed and people as objects to be controlled with no regard for the future.

This worldview is not shared by most Native Peoples, and in this provocative book, Anne Wilson Schaef shares the richness poured out to her by Native Americans, Aborigines, Africans, Maoris, and others. In the words of Native Peoples themselves, we come to understand Native ideas about our earth, spirituality, family, work, loneliness, and change. For in every area of our lives we have the capacity to transcend our white minds--we simply need to listen with open hearts and open minds to other voices, other perceptions, other cultures.

Anne Wilson Schaef often heard Elders from a wide variety of Native Peoples say, "Our legends tell us that a time will come when our wisdom and way of living will be necessary to save the planet, and that time is now." Anyone ready to move from feeling separate to a profound sense of connectedness, from the personal to the global, will find the path in this mind-expanding, deeply spiritual book. (Goodreads)

DavidW

I reread Dune.  It still holds up.  It is funny that despite the sheer length of the recent adaptation there are still intricacies with the politics and characters unexplored.  I read part of it on my nice hardcover, but mostly read the ebook just due to sheer weight of the hardback.




AnotherSpin

Quote from: San Antone on May 05, 2024, 05:39:37 AMNative Wisdom for White Minds: Daily Reflections Inspired by the Native Peoples of the World - Anne Wilson Schaef



You don't have to be white to have a white mind.

What is a white mind? As Anne Wilson Schaef learned during her travels throughout the world among Native Peoples, anyone raised in modern Western society or by Western culture can have a white mind. White minds are trapped in a closed system of thinking that sees life in black and white, either/or terms; they are hierarchical and mechanistic; they see nature as a force to be tamed and people as objects to be controlled with no regard for the future.

This worldview is not shared by most Native Peoples, and in this provocative book, Anne Wilson Schaef shares the richness poured out to her by Native Americans, Aborigines, Africans, Maoris, and others. In the words of Native Peoples themselves, we come to understand Native ideas about our earth, spirituality, family, work, loneliness, and change. For in every area of our lives we have the capacity to transcend our white minds--we simply need to listen with open hearts and open minds to other voices, other perceptions, other cultures.

Anne Wilson Schaef often heard Elders from a wide variety of Native Peoples say, "Our legends tell us that a time will come when our wisdom and way of living will be necessary to save the planet, and that time is now." Anyone ready to move from feeling separate to a profound sense of connectedness, from the personal to the global, will find the path in this mind-expanding, deeply spiritual book. (Goodreads)

In other words, to liberate the mind from the dogmas of Christianity, the belief in free will, the illusion of progress, etc.

Bachtoven

This is a very disturbing novel. It's about a single mother who is a teacher and is also the narrator. Her son is grievously wounded during a shooting at the school where she teaches. (Numerous children were killed, but we don't know how many yet--I've read only about 40 pages). It seems as if it's going to be a revenge story. Rickstad's writing is absolutely visceral at times, which greatly intensifies the horror. Big fans of the 2nd Amendment should probably give this a hard pass.

vers la flamme

Quote from: DavidW on May 05, 2024, 05:29:03 PMI reread Dune.  It still holds up.  It is funny that despite the sheer length of the recent adaptation there are still intricacies with the politics and characters unexplored.  I read part of it on my nice hardcover, but mostly read the ebook just due to sheer weight of the hardback.





I haven't seen the Dune Part 2 yet but I read Dune for the first time last year, and when I watched the Part 1 afterward I thought they left out so much.

I'm currently reading another big world-building-heavy book for the first time, J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. Not sure how I managed to avoid reading this, but it's quite good. I think I'm going to take it slow and read one volume at a time with other stuff in between, though I know the volumes are not really individual entries in a series but parts of a single novel. I just get the feeling that Tolkien's writing style might be easy for me to burn myself out on.

The editions I have are paperback and look really nice:



(not my photo)

Mandryka

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Quote from: vers la flamme on May 06, 2024, 06:30:10 AMI haven't seen the Dune Part 2 yet but I read Dune for the first time last year, and when I watched the Part 1 afterward I thought they left out so much.

I'm currently reading another big world-building-heavy book for the first time, J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. Not sure how I managed to avoid reading this, but it's quite good. I think I'm going to take it slow and read one volume at a time with other stuff in between, though I know the volumes are not really individual entries in a series but parts of a single novel. I just get the feeling that Tolkien's writing style might be easy for me to burn myself out on.

The editions I have are paperback and look really nice:



(not my photo)

When I was 17 me and my mate Martin bought a big lump of Red Leb and took a tent to The High Peak with our copies of Lord of the Rings - the project was to read it all while camping. I recommend that approach enthusiastically- I'd do it again at the drop of a hat, as Dylan says at the end of his Dream.

The old hardbacks were very good, especially the appendices. Treat yourself to this - better than money in the bank

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31314625389&dest=gbr&ref_=ps_ggl_2038407968&cm_mmc=ggl-_-UK_Shopp_RareStandard-_-product_id=bi%3A%2031314625389-_-keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_-GxBhC1ARIsADGgDjvU72_CW3yKAo-XOn8hfMTj8o4FdZX9kj4_lVQDROrKfgR5MFUzS3IaApJfEALw_wcB
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

vers la flamme

Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2024, 06:56:50 AMWhen I was 17 me and my mate Martin bought a big lump of Red Leb and took a tent to The High Peak with our copies of Lord of the Rings - the project was to read it all while camping. I recommend that approach enthusiastically- I'd do it again at the drop of a hat, as Dylan says at the end of his Dream.

The old hardbacks were very good, especially the appendices. Treat yourself to this - better than money in the bank

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31314625389&dest=gbr&ref_=ps_ggl_2038407968&cm_mmc=ggl-_-UK_Shopp_RareStandard-_-product_id=bi%3A%2031314625389-_-keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_-GxBhC1ARIsADGgDjvU72_CW3yKAo-XOn8hfMTj8o4FdZX9kj4_lVQDROrKfgR5MFUzS3IaApJfEALw_wcB

That does sound like an ideal way to enjoy the book. And that's a steal for only 5100 pounds sterling  ;D

AnotherSpin


Ganondorf

Quote from: vers la flamme on May 06, 2024, 06:30:10 AMI haven't seen the Dune Part 2 yet but I read Dune for the first time last year, and when I watched the Part 1 afterward I thought they left out so much.

I'm currently reading another big world-building-heavy book for the first time, J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. Not sure how I managed to avoid reading this, but it's quite good. I think I'm going to take it slow and read one volume at a time with other stuff in between, though I know the volumes are not really individual entries in a series but parts of a single novel. I just get the feeling that Tolkien's writing style might be easy for me to burn myself out on.

The editions I have are paperback and look really nice:



(not my photo)

I'm currently re-reading both The Hobbit and Lotr. After that I shall re-read The Silmarillion which remains my all-time favorite by Tolkien. The prose he uses in that work is simply exquisite.

vers la flamme

Quote from: Ganondorf on May 07, 2024, 10:29:08 AMI'm currently re-reading both The Hobbit and Lotr. After that I shall re-read The Silmarillion which remains my all-time favorite by Tolkien. The prose he uses in that work is simply exquisite.

I definitely want to read that one too; I'll be keeping my eyes open for a copy.

DavidW

Quote from: vers la flamme on May 07, 2024, 10:34:18 AMI definitely want to read that one too; I'll be keeping my eyes open for a copy.

It is great.  People complain about it being hard to read, but I found that it has the most memorable, evocative imagery in all of Tolkien's writing.