What are you listening 2 now?

[brewski]

Korngold: "Mein Sehnen, mein Wähnen" from Die tote Stadt (Matthias Goerne / Manfred Honeck / Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra). Haven't heard this in years, and this sublime recording is now 25 years old.

[Karl Henning]

I have, but I will be giving them a relisten in the near future.

I still have his string quartets to get through that will be done at a later time as well, maybe.

As with Haydn, the conventions of the form do not impede rich invention.

[Daverz]

I have, but I will be giving them a relisten in the near future.

I still have his string quartets to get through that will be done at a later time as well, maybe.

Again, I'd start with the late works (starting with, say, String Quartet No. 10).

Dvorak learned on the job, so, yes, it's well known that his early works could be structurally diffuse and overlong. 

[hopefullytrusting]

As with Haydn, the conventions of the form do not impede rich invention.

I have no doubt, but that is also no guarantee that I will like what I hear (see Mozart symphonies, which I find dreadfully boring, and I've relistened to those at least three times, and probably will relisten three more times in my life, lol).

Again, I'd start with the late works (starting with, say, String Quartet No. 10).

Dvorak learned on the job, so, yes, it's well known that his early works could be structurally diffuse and overlong. 

I tend to start with the one which story seems the most interesting to me. That's why I started with Symphony 2, which I liked - I just found it too light. I assume it will get better as move forward. I recall loving Symphony No. 5 the last time I listened to Dvorak's symphonies the most.

[Brian]

I recall loving Symphony No. 5 the last time I listened to Dvorak's symphonies the most.

Sometimes I wonder if Dvorak 5 was the template for Mahler 1. Pastoral beginning that doesn't seem to promise much, unexpected but maybe over the top melancholy, folk dance, and then big erupting finale full of drama with a callback to the beginning at the end.

[Daverz]

I have no doubt, but that is also no guarantee that I will like what I hear (see Mozart symphonies, which I find dreadfully boring, and I've relistened to those at least three times, and probably will relisten three more times in my life, lol).

I tend to start with the one which story seems the most interesting to me. That's why I started with Symphony 2, which I liked - I just found it too light. I assume it will get better as move forward. I recall loving Symphony No. 5 the last time I listened to Dvorak's symphonies the most.

Yes, and No. 6 is quite wonderful.  No. 4 may be the best of the first four symphonies (which weren't published until the 1950s).

[hopefullytrusting]

Sometimes I wonder if Dvorak 5 was the template for Mahler 1. Pastoral beginning that doesn't seem to promise much, unexpected but maybe over the top melancholy, folk dance, and then big erupting finale full of drama with a callback to the beginning at the end.

I've not thought of that before, but now that you say that, I do sense the similarities.

Yes, and No. 6 is quite wonderful.  No. 4 may be the best of the first four symphonies (which weren't published until the 1950s).

I presume that I will like all of them, as even the "worst" of Dvorak I've enjoyed, at least I don't think I found any of it boring (I don't think).

[JBS]

Mozart: Serenade no.11 (for 8 winds in its revised version, I've no idea whether the original 6-wind version still exists and gets played)



There's no doubt that at some point I'm going to want to buy some Mozart serenades and divertimenti. Though the exercise of sorting them out, rather than having orchestral works and chamber works mashed together, won't help in figuring out just which albums I want! But it seems "Serenades" 11 & 12 make a rather logical pairing.

There's also Harmoniemusik from Abduction from the Seraglio which Meyer and some others have recorded. IIRC not done by WAM himself but contemporary with the opera itself.

TD
Rerun of the Fourth and Seventh from this set

[Daverz]

I've not thought of that before, but now that you say that, I do sense the similarities.

I presume that I will like all of them, as even the "worst" of Dvorak I've enjoyed, at least I don't think I found any of it boring (I don't think).

Which symphonies and which performances?

I think most people only need 25, 35, 36, 38-41.  Easy to make them interminable by playing every repeat.

[Madiel]

Now, this is the Dvorak I was expecting: nationalistic, lyrical, poetic - not locked into "form," allowing his storytelling abilities to take centerstage. Perhaps, I am misreading him, but his "formal" works, while delightful, all seem to be lacking, as it seemed like he was trying to achieve some level of perfection, which is an impossible standard, so he always seemed to be holding back. Perhaps, it was the shadow of Beethoven, but I don't think that explanation works for Dvorak as he produced just as much in the major orchestral and chamber forms as Beethoven.

We need to have a talk.

Possibly with you strapped to a chair with a bright light shining in your face, I'm not sure. 

[hopefullytrusting]

Which symphonies and which performances?

I think most people only need 25, 35, 36, 38-41.  Easy to make them interminable by playing every repeat.

This last go around I focused only on Symphony 40 and 41 and the Requiem. I found an excellent recording of the Requiem thanks to @DavidW who recommended I go HIP.

The other recommendations came from the posters on this forum, and I was not satisfied with any of them, although, I did like the HIP recordings of the symphonies the best, at least at the time.

We need to have a talk.

Possibly with you strapped to a chair with a bright light shining in your face, I'm not sure. 

I will fully admit that I am currently getting my sleep schedule back on track for university, so I have been up for almost 48 hours straight! O_O

[Madiel]

PS It's perhaps worth noting that the late symphonic poems were absolutely NOT what people were expecting at the time. There was shock that Dvorak was doing "programme music".

The excellent Dvorak website does point out reasons why the shock was somewhat misplaced, but supporters of the 'Brahms' school of music over the 'Liszt/Wagner' school did rather feel that Dvorak had betrayed them.

[Daverz]

This last go around I focused only on Symphony 40 and 41 and the Requiem. I found an excellent recording of the Requiem thanks to @DavidW who recommended I go HIP.

The other recommendations came from the posters on this forum, and I was not satisfied with any of them, although, I did like the HIP recordings of the symphonies the best, at least at the time.

For the symphonies my goto guys are Bruno Walter, Otto Klemperer and George Szell.

[hopefullytrusting]

For the symphonies my goto guys are Bruno Walter, Otto Klemperer and George Szell.

I have listened to those three, but I am always open to specific recommendations, so if you have them, I will most definitely give them a listen.

[Daverz]

I have listened to those three, but I am always open to specific recommendations, so if you have them, I will most definitely give them a listen.

If you can stream, look for

"George Szell Plays and Conducts Mozart"
"Otto Klemperer Mozart Symphonies & Serenades"
"Bruno Walter conducts Mozart & Haydn"

[Que]

Enjoyable but with some reservations....

[Irons]

Haydn: Piano Trios No.14 & 15

All great music, some and more then a few dig deeper. No.15 is one of those.

[vandermolen]

Godfried Devreese: Tombelene (Choreographic Suite)
Has something of the atmosphere of Stravinsky's 'Firebird'

[Linz]

Carl Orff Carmina Burana , The Radio Recordings Vol. 1, CD5 Maria Venuti soprano, Ulf Kenklies, tenor, Peter Binder, baritone  NDR Chor NDR Sinfonieorchester, Günter Wand

[Madiel]

Beethoven Triple Concerto