What are you listening 2 now?

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AnotherSpin

Quote from: Traverso on January 11, 2025, 03:57:34 AMI can't find an interview,I only read that he owes a great debt of gratitude to Maharish yogi the Guru who tried to teach his followers weightlessness.

Of course, the purpose of Transcendental Meditation (TM), introduced by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, is not to teach followers weightlessness. It's about something entirely different. Among those trained in TM are many famous figures, including David Lynch, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah Winfrey, The Beatles, Clint Eastwood, Mick Jagger, Sheryl Crow, Stevie Wonder, Tom Hanks, Jennifer Lopez, Donovan, etc. These are celebrities, but there are countless followers whose names are not as well-known. Naturally, not everyone who receives a mantra continues the practice for a considerable length of time. Most stop, but the seed is planted, and when it will sprout is hard to predict—perhaps in another lifetime. But it will sprout eventually.

As for weightlessness, there is an advanced TM course, Siddhi, which includes elements of levitation, but that's not the main focus.

AnotherSpin

Quote from: LKB on January 11, 2025, 05:08:49 AMhttps://poets.org/poem/im-nobody-who-are-you-260

Beautiful poem by Emily Dickinson, thank you for sharing the link. Pure truth. The true self is no one, no body, and no thing — not an object, but a subject beyond time and space, aware of all perceived objects.

Selig

Quote from: Mandryka on January 11, 2025, 06:36:12 AMBy coincidence I listened to this myself the oher week. I like Frey a lot.

Is it just me or is the SQ 4 unusually accessible for this composer? (someone on the bandcamp page even said it felt like Arvo Pärt). I should try his quartets 1-3.

Traverso

Quote from: AnotherSpin on January 11, 2025, 06:52:37 AMOf course, the purpose of Transcendental Meditation (TM), introduced by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, is not to teach followers weightlessness. It's about something entirely different. Among those trained in TM are many famous figures, including David Lynch, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah Winfrey, The Beatles, Clint Eastwood, Mick Jagger, Sheryl Crow, Stevie Wonder, Tom Hanks, Jennifer Lopez, Donovan, etc. These are celebrities, but there are countless followers whose names are not as well-known. Naturally, not everyone who receives a mantra continues the practice for a considerable length of time. Most stop, but the seed is planted, and when it will sprout is hard to predict—perhaps in another lifetime. But it will sprout eventually.

As for weightlessness, there is an advanced TM course, Siddhi, which includes elements of levitation, but that's not the main focus.


Frankly, in my opinion, all self-proclaimed liberators are fraudsters of the highest order. This has been discussed between us before and I abhor the exploitation of people who want leadership and surrender themselves completely to individuals who are mainly interested in power and not to forget money, just ask Mia Farrow about that.
All the celebrities you mentioned are all striking examples of a fashion phenomenon.
It is a world where deception is leading in many ways.
I am not looking for a fight and if you take this seriously that is your right. Frankly, I think that there is no spiritual route description that leads to nirvana for a fee.
People want to be free and continue to suckle at the mother's breast of the Guru.


Mandryka

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Quote from: Selig on January 11, 2025, 07:07:00 AMIs it just me or is the SQ 4 unusually accessible for this composer? (someone on the bandcamp page even said it felt like Arvo Pärt). I should try his quartets 1-3.

I'd be hard put to say what the differences are between the third and fourth quartet. That's a comment about me, not the music. What I can say is that the one which has made the most impact on me is the second - this is more a question of timbre than structure or melody or rhythm.

There's also Unhörbare Zeit, which I want to hear properly - and the octet (Continuité, Fragilité, Résonance - why are we in the French? I wonder)  and a string trio which I vaguely remember sounded like an interesting, more agitated, outlier (like Feldman's trio in fact.)
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

ritter

The Quatuor Parisii plays Pierre Boulez's Livre pour quatuor.

 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on January 11, 2025, 06:52:37 AMAmong those trained in TM are many famous figures, including David Lynch, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah Winfrey, The Beatles, Clint Eastwood, Mick Jagger, Sheryl Crow, Stevie Wonder, Tom Hanks, Jennifer Lopez, Donovan, etc.

All of them luminaries of reason and critical thinking...  ;D

Quote from: Traverso on January 11, 2025, 07:16:16 AMI abhor the exploitation of people who want leadership and surrender themselves completely to individuals who are mainly interested in power and not to forget money

Indeed. It's as if, say, Montaigne, Hume, Voltaire and Kant never lived and never wrote anything, as if the West slumbered unreasonably and uncritically until Maharishi, Osho and their ilk came to save it. Heck, even the Jesuits have been more beneficial to the West, what with their educational philosophy and system (which produced some of the best and finest minds, not a few of them agnostic and atheist) than the whole gang of gurus who made a lucrative business from pretending to bring spiritual enlightenment and liberation to the materialistically-minded West.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on January 09, 2025, 05:36:58 AMSometime today (all Dvorak):

String Quintet 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhNdgH3rxA

Symphony 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-KNS1QyF8

String Quartet 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm5Q5KjuPWo

String Quartet 14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daXdi3mQeiw

To the above I added:
String Quartet No. 2
Symphony No. 8
String Quartet 13
Sonatina for Violin and Piano

All I can say, I am now a convert of Dvorak - the "weakest" of these pieces - the Sonatina - was still enjoyable - it felt very fiddle-like and made for beginners, which isn't a knock, but it seems like something a brother and sisters might play together, so the music is delightful, but I didn't find it filling.

The String Quartets might be the best I've ever heard in the genre. I'm not a huge fan of the strings, especially the violin, but the dynamics, the rhythms - these are some of the first string quartets I could imagine someone dancing to.

Both symphonies were magnificent, but the hidden gem, for me, was an accident: String Quintet No. 2, which I mistakenly thought was his String Quartet No. 2. Oh my, that opening, that double bass and cello putting those puny strings in their place (who needs interplay when I have that much power!), so much energy - easily the best Dvorak's I've heard so far - I'd rank even above his Stabat Mater (Sinopoli/DG).

Do we really need the treble clef?! :-* 




AnotherSpin

Quote from: Traverso on January 11, 2025, 07:16:16 AMFrankly, in my opinion, all self-proclaimed liberators are fraudsters of the highest order. This has been discussed between us before and I abhor the exploitation of people who want leadership and surrender themselves completely to individuals who are mainly interested in power and not to forget money, just ask Mia Farrow about that.
All the celebrities you mentioned are all striking examples of a fashion phenomenon.
It is a world where deception is leading in many ways.
I am not looking for a fight and if you take this seriously that is your right. Frankly, I think that there is no spiritual route description that leads to nirvana for a fee.
People want to be free and continue to suckle at the mother's breast of the Guru.


I also don't see any grounds for a fight; your arguments are too... weightless ;)

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Mandryka on January 11, 2025, 06:36:12 AMBy coincidence I listened to this myself the oher week. I like Frey a lot.

I've also immersed myself in Frey's music over the past couple of days. It resonates well with my current state. I heard the metaphor 'a fly in amber' somewhere.

Karl Henning

One of my fave Hindemith scores.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Traverso

Quote from: AnotherSpin on January 11, 2025, 08:49:26 AMI also don't see any grounds for a fight; your arguments are too... weightless ;)

That's no problem, let's keep it on the humor side.

hopefullytrusting


ChamberNut

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on January 11, 2025, 08:46:50 AMthe best Dvorak's I've heard so far - I'd rank even above his Stabat Mater (Sinopoli/DG).

Do we really need the treble clef?! :-*

Interestingly, I don't believe I have heard Dvořák's Stabat Mater yet?
Formerly Brahmsian, OrchestralNut and Franco_Manitobain

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: Franco_Manitobain on January 11, 2025, 09:09:06 AMInterestingly, I don't believe I have heard Dvořák's Stabat Mater yet?

I, personally, love it, especially Sinopoli/DG, but I cannot imagine it sounding bad (lol).

Florestan

Quote from: Franco_Manitobain on January 11, 2025, 09:09:06 AMInterestingly, I don't believe I have heard Dvořák's Stabat Mater yet?

It's on the theatrical/dramatic/big-and-loud side, which is not at all my cup of tea when it comes to SM (my unsurpassable ideal is Pergolesi) --- but when I'm in the mood for such antics, Dvorak does the trick quite nicely. Run, don't walk!
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

ritter

Maurice Ravel: Daphnis et Chloé (complete ballet) - Choeur et Orchestre Symphonique de Montreal, conducted by Charles Dutoit.

CD9 of this set:

 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Traverso


Linz

Saint-Saëns Violin Concerto No. 3 in B minor, Op.61, Ruggiero Ricci violin
Charles Koechlin Les Bandar-log op. 176
Hector Berlioz Roman Carnival
Luigi Cherubini Overture Anakreon, WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln, Günter Wand Vol 2 CD1