Clichés

[Coco]

Classical cliches are funny, and some do have the reek of refulgent splendour about them, but they're not in the same ballpark as "rock'n'roll all night long". Ouch. I got chapped just writing that.

"I have lots of money and people are attracted to me."

[ibanezmonster]

Plus, I look so cool when I pick up my guitar. I only need to play two power chords and chicks throw their bras at me, man!




(barf)

[Coco]

in contemporary music: something is "accessible" and hence OK for mass consumption as long as it takes its queues from filmic effects and has big noises.

[karlhenning]

in contemporary music: something is "accessible" and hence OK for mass consumption as long as it takes its queues from filmic effects and has big noises.

The complimentary cliché is challenging.

[Coco]

Yes. Use other words, please!

[eyeresist]

Tempos - "flowing"; "hanging fire"

Still can't figure what the hell that means.

[knight66]

Velimir provided : Brahms - autumnal

Brahms is often said to be either: Young man's Brahms, or alternatively, old man's Brahms.

This refers to the way it is performed. I have heard performances of his late op118 piano pieces played in different ways, one seemingly elegiac, the other tigerish. Might be summmat in it, but it is probably still a lazy categorisation.

I remember M, of non-sainted memory, challenging someone to explain just what he meant by describing the Berlin Phil as....... playing in the customary Germanic manner. The poor schmuck did not have a chance and could not even begin to explain himself: it had been a cliche very unwisely deployed. It made me think and be a little more careful, though over in the vocal section I know I still often utilise specific terms which may well fall into cliche.

Mike

[karlhenning]

Safety first.

[DavidW]

challenging someone to explain just what he meant by describing the Berlin Phil as....... playing in the customary Germanic manner. The poor schmuck did not have a chance and could not even begin to explain himself: it had been a cliche very unwisely deployed.

Actually I think that one is easy... the customary Germanic manner is to play with as few women as possible!

[ibanezmonster]

Maybe the customary Germanic manner is something felt, and not easily explained?

[DavidW]

Maybe the customary Germanic manner is something felt, and not easily explained?

They feel deep in their bones an OCD need to play completely together.... to form the wall of sound.

Well Karajan is not with us anymore, so I say TEAR DOWN THE WALL!

[starrynight]

"cliches are for lazy people"

starrynight

[eyeresist]

Karajan... wall of sound = cliche

[Mirror Image]

Karajan... wall of sound = cliche

This cliche doesn't make any sense anyway. It's the Berliners that are the wall of sound.

[Coco]

"cliches are for lazy people"

starrynight

That's not a cliché, it's a truthbomb!

[Coco]

"Composer X may sound a lot like this composer, and that composer, and that other composer, but X is really actually quite original!"

[Karl Henning]

The horridly overused clichés for new music are accessible, and its opposite, challenging.

[Leo K.]

My own personal cliches are thus:

--WOW!

--The sound quality is realistic, with room around the instruments.

--I LOVE it!

[springrite]

exotic

[Coco]

exotic

I think I've actually used that to describe a Vivier piece recently. Let he who is without sin, etc.