Favourite symphony no. 3

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The greates of all third symphonies ?

Beethoven's (Eroica)
Mendelssohn's (Scottish)
Schumann's (Rhenish)
Brahms's
Bruckner's
Tchaikovsky's (Polish)
Saint-Saëns's (Organ symphony)
Mahler's
Sibelius's
Scriabin's (Divine Poem)
Glière's (Ilya Muromets)
Prokofiev's
Rachmaninov's
Khachaturian's
Gorecki's (of Sorrowful Songs)
Other (which one ?)
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jochanaan

#40
December 04, 2014, 09:04:47 AM
They're all great, and greatly influential.  (Shostakovich, anyone?  #3 is the only one of his that I've never actually heard...)
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Daverz

#41
December 04, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Magnard 3.  Oh, dear, are we going to start up the neglected symphonies thread again?

I have to admit to admiring the Eroica more than loving it

starrynight

#42
December 04, 2014, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: Daverz on December 04, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Magnard 3. 

I mentioned that in a thread before and I can easily imagine an alternate reality were a famous conductor had recorded it and it became a very popular work

Daverz

#43
December 04, 2014, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: starrynight on December 04, 2014, 10:23:18 AM
I mentioned that in a thread before and I can easily imagine an alternate reality were a famous conductor had recorded it and it became a very popular work

It was one of the last works Ansermet recorded, and I think that's still its finest recording.

Jaakko Keskinen

#44
December 06, 2014, 06:40:56 AM
It was tough to choose between Bruckner, Beethoven and Sibelius but ultimately chose Sibelius. I don't understand why people don't like it more :( Oh well, each to his own.

Brahms's third is the one I like least of his symphonies, although it is still an excellent, autumnal work, autumn symphony, if you may. I usually think of symphony 2 as summer symphony :)
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Jo498

#45
December 06, 2014, 02:36:18 PM
I do not know Sibelius' 6 and 7 well enough, but to the extent I remember his symphonies, the 3rd is my least favorite (something I share with Karajan, but I bet he liked the rest better than I do). I love Brahms 3rd, except for the most famous movement, the 3rd (Aimez-vous Brahms?)
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Ken B

#46
December 06, 2014, 03:04:34 PM
Quote from: Alberich on December 06, 2014, 06:40:56 AM
It was tough to choose between Bruckner, Beethoven and Sibelius but ultimately chose Sibelius. I don't understand why people don't like it more :( Oh well, each to his own.

Brahms's third is the one I like least of his symphonies, although it is still an excellent, autumnal work, autumn symphony, if you may. I usually think of symphony 2 as summer symphony :)
It's the hardest to pull off. There are many great recordings but the very best I think is probably Cantelli's. (Klemp is very fine too.)

This guy was an amazing talent. He left only a half dozen or so stereo recordings, but several of them, Brahms 3, Schubert Unfinished, Beethoven 7, and Franck Symphony, are amongst the very best recordings of those frequently recorded standards.

Christo

#47
December 07, 2014, 03:26:43 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on November 26, 2014, 02:03:19 PM
Aaron Copland: Symphony 3. Can't believe this has not been mentioned.

Also :)

Honegger
VW
Elgar (reconstructed)
Hovhaness
Miaskovsky
Daniel Asia
DAVID DIAMOND ( a masterpiece )
William Schuman
William Alwyn
Eduard TUBIN
Prokofiev
BAX (his greatest symphony)

Agree with all of your choices and added qualifications  ;) (except for the Asia, which I don't know yet).

My clear first choice: Vaughan Williams, A Pastoral Symphony.

Other faves are:
Joly Braga Santos
Stanley Bate
Arnold Cooke
Michael Tippett (yes, I do  :D)
Robert Simpson
John Kinsella
Vagn Holmboe
Hendrik Andriessen
Leon Orthel
Leevi Madetoja
Erkki Melartin
Camargo Guarnieri


... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

#48
December 12, 2014, 11:26:57 AM
Quote from: Christo on December 07, 2014, 03:26:43 AM
Agree with all of your choices and added qualifications  ;) (except for the Asia, which I don't know yet).

My clear first choice: Vaughan Williams, A Pastoral Symphony.

Other faves are:
Joly Braga Santos
Stanley Bate
Arnold Cooke
Michael Tippett (yes, I do  :D)
Robert Simpson
John Kinsella
Vagn Holmboe
Hendrik Andriessen
Leon Orthel
Leevi Madetoja
Erkki Melartin
Camargo Guarnieri

Interesting choices which I wholeheartedly agree with, although am less familiar with Andriessen and Tippett. I also rather like Bantock's 'Cyprian Goddess'.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

#49
December 12, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: Ken B on December 06, 2014, 03:04:34 PM
It's the hardest to pull off. There are many great recordings but the very best I think is probably Cantelli's. (Klemp is very fine too.)

For me, Furtwängler nails it (the '49 Berlin performance on Archipel).

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Minor Key

#50
March 22, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
Obviously greatest is the Eroica, but my favorite is RVW's pastoral symphony followed by Mendelssohn's Scottish.

Christo

#51
March 22, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
Heard A Pastoral Symphony (RVW) live in Rotterdam, last week. And yes, it's still my favourite.
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Dancing Divertimentian

#52
March 23, 2015, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Ken B on December 06, 2014, 03:04:34 PM
It's the hardest to pull off. There are many great recordings but the very best I think is probably Cantelli's. (Klemp is very fine too.)

Cantelli's is good. The articulation is on a high level. I sometimes wish he'd have stepped on the gas just a tad more often but no real complaints. The guy definitely has something unique to say.

QuoteThis guy was an amazing talent. He left only a half dozen or so stereo recordings, but several of them, Brahms 3, Schubert Unfinished, Beethoven 7, and Franck Symphony, are amongst the very best recordings of those frequently recorded standards.

Don't know if you've heard it but this is a great compilation, which includes the Franck:




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Mirror Image

#53
April 14, 2015, 09:43:54 AM
Three favorite 3rd Symphonies: RVW, Diamond, and W. Schuman.

Ken B

#54
April 14, 2015, 11:05:16 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on March 23, 2015, 06:25:02 PM
Cantelli's is good. The articulation is on a high level. I sometimes wish he'd have stepped on the gas just a tad more often but no real complaints. The guy definitely has something unique to say.

Don't know if you've heard it but this is a great compilation, which includes the Franck:




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Just saw this today. I have not seen that collection, thanks.

vandermolen

#55
April 16, 2015, 01:22:07 AM
Quote from: Christo on March 22, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
Heard A Pastoral Symphony (RVW) live in Rotterdam, last week. And yes, it's still my favourite.

Great to see VW being performed in the Netherlands. The new Mark Elder recording is the best I know along with Previn.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#56
April 16, 2015, 01:22:47 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on April 14, 2015, 09:43:54 AM
Three favorite 3rd Symphonies: RVW, Diamond, and W. Schuman.

Totally agree John.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

#57
April 16, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 16, 2015, 01:22:47 AM
Totally agree John.

Great minds think alike. ;) ;D

EigenUser

#58
April 17, 2015, 12:18:29 AM
I can't believe I'm the only voter for Schumann's 3rd! No one cares about Rhineland?
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Jo498

#59
April 17, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: EigenUser on April 17, 2015, 12:18:29 AM
I can't believe I'm the only voter for Schumann's 3rd! No one cares about Rhineland?
I like the symphony but I find it uneven. The first two movements and the 4th (Cologne Cathedral) are good or great but the little Andante in between and the actual finale seems kind of trite and almost superfluous to me.
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