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[Brian]

Agree with everyone, the only disappointment I have had was Mozart overtures, but I only listened to that once and should try again. The Haydn symphonies are among my favorite Haydn recordings ever; I played them in the car on the drive to work every day for months and months.

[ritter]

This has just appeared in France. The Diotima Quartet playing Boulez's "revised" Livre pour quatuor (on the Megadisc label):


http://www.megadisc-classics.com/album/pierre-boulez-livre-pour-quatuor-r%C3%A9vis%C3%A9

[kishnevi]

This has just appeared in France. The Diotima Quartet playing Boulez's "revised" Livre pour quatuor (on the Megadisc label):


http://www.megadisc-classics.com/album/pierre-boulez-livre-pour-quatuor-r%C3%A9vis%C3%A9

The way the typefaces are arranged makes  "révisé" seem as if it is the title of the work, or the CD.

[Ken B]

Now that this priority matter is efficiently dealt with  ( ), anyone would have some views/impressions please on the Tafelmusik CD's in their boxset ? I am quite tempted as they are many works in there I do not have at all.

I know the Weil/Haydn Symphonies in there was quite praised, but besides that, no idea.

Thank you.

I have about 25 of those discs. I think they are splendid. In general the tempo is more relaxed than many HIP ensembles, but still swift. There are exceptions: the Beethoven 6 is startlingly slow. The orchestral sound is always ravishingly beautiful.
The Haydn masses are excellent but feature boy sopranos which puts some people off.

[Jo498]

What I have heard of Tafelmusik (some Handel, Haydn, Geminiani, maybe more I forgot) was all very good but often somewhat "neutral" and in the end not always a first choice. E.g. I still like their Handel Fireworks and Water music etc. a lot and especially the concerti a due cori may be one of the best recordings in the catalogue but in the Fire/Water e.g. Savall is considerably more bold and colorful, I'd say. (As single discs the advantage of Tafelmusik were the fillers.)
Tafelmusik tends to rather lean, clean sounding, often "middle of the road" or even "cool".
Weil's Haydn might be an exception (I only know the "Paris" symphonies and two discs with masses) because he is so fast and lean to be more on the lean/mean end of the spectrum. I got rid of the Paris symphonies because I preferred others but they are undoubtedly very good if you want small scale and very zippy performances.

If you like the Baroque style offered by Pinnock, Hogwood etc. Tafelmusik will be very pleasurable, maybe even better than those. If one prefers more quirky performers like Goebel, Harnoncourt, Savall or the younger ones like Minkowski, Letzbor etc. one might find them too "neutral".

[Moonfish]

Fricsay- Complete Recordings on Deutsche Grammophon,Vol.2 - Operas/Choral Works (38 disks)

July 3, 2015

http://www.amazon.de/Fricsay-S%C3%A4mtliche-Dg-Aufnahmen-Vol-2-Ltd-Edt/dp/B00W6ET93W

Better cover this time.. 

[ritter]

We've mentioned this in passing in the "Worst looking..." thread, but not here.

Martha and her friends are back once more:



Tracklisting:

Beethoven: Variations (7) on "Bei Männern, welche Liebe fühlen", for Cello and Piano, WoO 46 - Martha Argerich (piano) & Mischa Maisky (cello)
Borodin: Piano Quintet in C minor - Alexander Mogilevsky (piano), Andrey Baranov (violin I), Geza Hosszu-Legocky (violin II), Nora Romanoff (viola) & Jing Zhao (cello)
Bridge: Cello Sonata in D minor, H125 - Gautier Capucon (cello) & Gabriela Montero (piano)
Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 11 arr. Ferruccio Busoni for two pianos/eight hands - Akane Sakai (piano), Lilya Zilberstein (piano), Anton Gerzenberg (piano) & Daniel Gerzenberg (piano)
Milhaud: La Création du Monde for piano quintet, Op. 81b - Eduardo Hubert (piano), Dora Schwarzberg (violin I), Michael Guttmann (violin II), Nora Romanoff (viola) & Mark Drobinsky (cello)
Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 20 in D minor, K466 - Martha Argerich (piano), Orchestra della Svizzera italiana, Jacek Kaspszyk
Poulenc: Sonata for Piano Four Hands (à mademoiselle Simone Tilliard) - Martha Argerich (piano), Dagmar Clottu (piano)
Poulenc: Cello Sonata, Op. 143 - Gautier Capucon (cello) & Francesco Piemontesi (piano)
Scriabin: Fantasy in A minor Op. post.
Alexander Mogilevsky (piano) & Daniel Rivera (piano)
Weinberg: Sonata for Violin & Piano No. 5, Op. 53 - Gidon Kremer (violin) & Martha Argerich (piano)

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Warner%2BClassics/2564613460

[Papy Oli]

What I have heard of Tafelmusik (some Handel, Haydn, Geminiani, maybe more I forgot) was all very good but often somewhat "neutral" and in the end not always a first choice. E.g. I still like their Handel Fireworks and Water music etc. a lot and especially the concerti a due cori may be one of the best recordings in the catalogue but in the Fire/Water e.g. Savall is considerably more bold and colorful, I'd say. (As single discs the advantage of Tafelmusik were the fillers.)
Tafelmusik tends to rather lean, clean sounding, often "middle of the road" or even "cool".
Weil's Haydn might be an exception (I only know the "Paris" symphonies and two discs with masses) because he is so fast and lean to be more on the lean/mean end of the spectrum. I got rid of the Paris symphonies because I preferred others but they are undoubtedly very good if you want small scale and very zippy performances.

If you like the Baroque style offered by Pinnock, Hogwood etc. Tafelmusik will be very pleasurable, maybe even better than those. If one prefers more quirky performers like Goebel, Harnoncourt, Savall or the younger ones like Minkowski, Letzbor etc. one might find them too "neutral".

Agree with everyone, the only disappointment I have had was Mozart overtures, but I only listened to that once and should try again. The Haydn symphonies are among my favorite Haydn recordings ever; I played them in the car on the drive to work every day for months and months.

thank you both. 

[Moonfish]

If you can live without libretti (I guess) this is probably a good way to collect some first class Handel. 25 E on jpc prerelease.

I got this yesterday. No texts (expected), but be aware of that this set comes in Archiv's new style of very poor containers. The discs are in standard paper sleeves. All of them are inserted into another larger flimsy open-ended "box". Pathetic!  I will never buy any of Archiv's budget sets in the future if they continue to release them in this fashion.   

[Drasko]

online translation from Japanese:

[CD1]
JS Bach (Busoni ed.): "Chaconne" [October 27, 1948, Abbey Road Studios Mono]
Scarlatti: "Sonata K.9 & 11" [1942, Milan Mono]
Galuppi: Presto [1941 than "Sonata in B flat major"? Milan Mono]
Beethoven: "Piano Sonata No. 3" [1941 Milan Mono]
Chopin: "mazurka Op.68-2" "Scherzo No. 2," "Waltz Op.69-1" [1942 Milan Mono]
[ CD2]
Brahms: "Variations on a Theme of Paganini" [October 26, 1948, Abbey Road Studios Mono]
Grieg: "Lyric Pieces Op.47-5 & Op.68-5" [1939, Milan Mono]
Albeniz: "Malagueña" [1942, Milan Mono]
Debussy: "reflection of the water." [1941? , Milan Mono]
Granados: "Andaluza" [1939, Milan Mono]
Mompou: "song and dance No. 1" [1942, Milan Mono]
Marais Scotty: "Fantasia" [1941? , Milan Mono]
[CD3]
Mozart: "Piano Concerto No. 13, 23"
Franco Caracciolo (conductor) Alessandro Scarlatti Orchestra
[23 to 29 November 1953, Naples Mono]
Mozart: "Piano Concerto No. 15 turn "
Ettore Gurashisu (conductor) Milan Chamber Orchestra
[June 26th & 27th, 1951, Milan Mono]
[CD4]
Schumann: "Faschingsschwank aus Wien", "Carnival"
[March 4, 1957, the Royal Fesuti live at Val Hall Mono (testament Remastered)]
[CD5]
Debussy: "Video"
Chopin: "Fantasia in F minor Op.49" "ballad Op.23," "Waltz No. 17th in E flat major"
Mompou: "Song" from "singing and dancing No. 6" (rehearsal and with sound check)
[March 4, 1957, live at the Royal Festival Hall Mono (testament Remastered)]
[CD6]
Ravel: "Piano Concerto"
Rachmaninov: "Piano Concerto No. 4"
Ettore Gurashisu (conductor) Philharmonia Orchestra
[7 to 10 March 1957, Abbey Road Studios Stereo]
[CD7]
Haydn: "Piano Concerto No. 4 and No. 11 "
Edmond de Shutautsu (conductor) Zurich Chamber Orchestra
[22 to 24 January 1975, Switzerland, Johannes church Stereo]
[CD8]
Schumann: "Carnival" [15 to 21 January 1975, Switzerland, Johannes Church Stereo]
Schumann: 38,37,39 number from "Album for the Young" [22 to 24 January 1975, Switzerland, Johannes church Stereo]
Schumann: the first 1-3 than "clown of Carnival in Vienna" song [September 27, 1972, Paris, Salle Waguramusuisu Stereo ※ first appearance sound source ]
[CD9]
Schumann: "Piano Concerto"
Antonio Bedorotti (conductor) Milan La Scala Orchestra
[April 9, 1942, Milan Mono]
Grieg: "Piano Concerto"
Alceo Galliera (conductor) Milan La Scala Orchestra
[February 9, 1942, Milan Mono]
[CD10]
Grieg: "Lyric Pieces Op.43-5" [1942 9 month the 6th Mono]
JS Bach: "Italian Concerto" [1月22日年1943, Mono]
Tomeoni: "Allegro" [1月22日年1943, Mono]
Scarlatti: "Sonata K.96 & 27" [January 1943 the 20th, Mono]
Chopin: "Lullaby Op.57" "Mazurka Op.33-4" [9月9日年1943, Mono]
[CD11]
Beethoven: "Piano Concerto No. 5"
Massimo Freccia (conductor) Rome, Italy Radio Symphony Orchestra
[live Mono in the May 14, 1960 Rome broadcasting]
Haydn: "Piano Concerto No. 11"
Mario Rossi (Conductor) Torino, Italy Radio Symphony Orchestra
[December 18, 1959 Turin broadcasting live at Mono]
[CD12]
Schumann: "Piano Concerto"
Gianandrea Gavazzeni (conductor) Rome, Italy Radio Symphony Orchestra
[live Mono at April 28, 1962 Rome broadcasting]
list: "Piano Concerto No. 1"
Raphael Kubelik (conductor) Torino, Italy Radio Symphony Orchestra
[live Mono in the April 28, 1961 Turin broadcasting]
[CD13]
Debussy: "video", "Children's Corner", "Prelude ~ Kanopu, Heath of wilderness"
[1962 year Turin Mono]
[CD14]
Chopin: "Scherzo No. 2," "Ballade No. 1" [1962 Treviso Mono]
Chopin: "Fantasy Op.49," "Waltz Op.96-1 & Op.34-1" "Waltz the 17th, "" mazurka Op.68-2, Op.33-4, Op.30-3 "
[1962 Turin Mono] [performance] Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli (piano)

[ritter]

I got this yesterday. No texts (expected), but be aware of that this set comes in Archiv's new style of very poor containers. The discs are in standard paper sleeves. All of them are inserted into another larger flimsy open-ended "box". Pathetic!  I will never buy any of Archiv's budget sets in the future if they continue to release them in this fashion.   

I think the critical word that appears on the cover is "Eloquence": that is Universal Germany's "super-budget" brand, and yes, there's never much in terms of documentation, etc. in these reissues (which should not be confused with "Australian Eloquence", by the way).

Other Archiv budget sets (not using the "Eloquence" brand) usually have higher production standards (even if as a general rule they will not include librettos either).

Cheers,

[Moonfish]

I think the critical word that appears on the cover is "Eloquence": that is Universal Germany's "super-budget" brand, and yes, there's never much in terms of documentation, etc. in these reissues (which should not be confused with "Australian Eloquence", by the way).

Other Archiv budget sets (not using the "Eloquence" brand) usually have higher production standards (even if as a general rule they will not include librettos either).

Cheers,

Good point Ritter! Interestingly, Eloquence used to have standard clam shells. I do have another newer Eloquence (Kubelik's Dvorak) which looks like a DG box apart from the fine print. Same flimsy container.  I hereby banish all future Eloquence boxes!     *growls*

[The new erato]

I got this yesterday. No texts (expected), but be aware of that this set comes in Archiv's new style of very poor containers. The discs are in standard paper sleeves. All of them are inserted into another larger flimsy open-ended "box". Pathetic!  I will never buy any of Archiv's budget sets in the future if they continue to release them in this fashion.   

That is disappointing. The Telemann 10 CD set was similarly flimsy.

[king ubu]

Not sure about the Tafelmusik - have their Haydn and some more in the Vivarte box. Will have to take a closer look before making up my mind.

But I'm quite certainly in for the party with Fricsay Vol. 2! Was patient enough to wait until Vol. 1 hit the spot where it would slip through customs, not sure I'll be as patient with this - have virtually none of it (been waiting for the box, actually).

As for the flimsiness - paper sleeves, really? Or cardboard sleeves with printed tracklists? That's the way my flimsy Arrau Mozart (or was it Liszt?) box looks (the other one is in clamshell). Seems there were both versions of some of these Eloquence sets around. (And just in case, there's Australian Eloquence as well, those that do the reissues like those Krips and Ansermet/Stravinsky sets recently discussed in other threads.)

[Moonfish]

Not sure about the Tafelmusik - have their Haydn and some more in the Vivarte box. Will have to take a closer look before making up my mind.

But I'm quite certainly in for the party with Fricsay Vol. 2! Was patient enough to wait until Vol. 1 hit the spot where it would slip through customs, not sure I'll be as patient with this - have virtually none of it (been waiting for the box, actually).

As for the flimsiness - paper sleeves, really? Or cardboard sleeves with printed tracklists? That's the way my flimsy Arrau Mozart (or was it Liszt?) box looks (the other one is in clamshell). Seems there were both versions of some of these Eloquence sets around. (And just in case, there's Australian Eloquence as well, those that do the reissues like those Krips and Ansermet/Stravinsky sets recently discussed in other threads.)

I have never seen any issues with the Australian Eloquence. They have always been standard plastic cases with singles/doubles as far as I know. The German DG/Eloquence set I received had thin printed cardboard sleeves crammed into another a flimsy open-ended box. My issue is more with the latter as the cds seem to want to fall out or are easily compressed. The outer box is doomed. It kind of calls for another way of storing the disks.

Yes, let's have a Fricsay party this summer!   

[Moonfish]

That is disappointing. The Telemann 10 CD set was similarly flimsy.

I hope this new trend in packaging will fail!!

[king ubu]

I have never seen any issues with the Australian Eloquence. They have always been standard plastic cases with singles/doubles as far as I know. The German DG/Eloquence set I received had thin printed cardboard sleeves crammed into another a flimsy open-ended box. My issue is more with the latter as the cds seem to want to fall out or are easily compressed. The outer box is doomed. It kind of calls for another way of storing the disks.

I just wanted to add the info that I missed having already been mentioned by ritter (that AE isn't E). As for German Eloquence boxes, I've seen both. I'm fairly sure the Arrau Mozart is the flimsy, open one (quite like the "Original Album Series" sets by Warner), while the Arrau Liszt and the Gulda Beethoven I have are clamshell boxes. And I seem to have been told by someone that his Arrau Mozart was a clamshell package, too ...

[The new erato]

I just wanted to add the info that I missed having already been mentioned by ritter (that AE isn't E). As for German Eloquence boxes, I've seen both. I'm fairly sure the Arrau Mozart is the flimsy, open one (quite like the "Original Album Series" sets by Warner), while the Arrau Liszt and the Gulda Beethoven I have are clamshell boxes. And I seem to have been told by someone that his Arrau Mozart was a clamshell package, too ...

AE isn't E. And E used to have real (cardboard), sturdy, boxes.

[Karl Henning]

Viz. the B. Michelangeli box contents . . . I do wonder what Debussy: "Video" may be 

[Brian]

Viz. the B. Michelangeli box contents . . . I do wonder what Debussy: "Video" may be 

That would be my guess!