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[prémont]

Franz Raml plays Scheidt. His Pachelbel too.

In short, Raml´s Scheidt is outstanding. His is a highly informed musician, and plays with great authority.His style reminds me of Hans Davidsson, displaying nice registrations and telling counterpoint combined with no-nonsense expressive playing. I have listened to vol. I and vol.II of the Tabulatura Nova (vol.III is on my wishlist), and concentration and interest is maintained throughout. Scheidt´s music makes often- and also sometimes here - a strange archaic impression, partly due to the music itself, partly due to the used instruments, which are tuned in meantone (Scherer organ Tangermünde, Wilde /Schnitger organ Lüdingworth and harpsichords by Bernhard von Tucher nach German and Italian baroque models). But the high quality of the music is never in doubt.

Raml´s Pachelbel is equally impressive. He really -as in Scheidt- displays the greatness of the music. The choice of the G Silbermann organ in St. Petri adds to the artistic and organological interest.

[Mandryka]

In short, Raml´s Scheidt is outstanding. His is a highly informed musician, and plays with great authority.His style reminds me of Hans Davidsson, displaying nice registrations and telling counterpoint combined with no-nonsense expressive playing. I have listened to vol. I and vol.II of the Tabulatura Nova (vol.III is on my wishlist), and concentration and interest is maintained throughout. Scheidt´s music makes often- and also sometimes here - a strange archaic impression, partly due to the music itself, partly due to the used instruments, which are tuned in meantone (Scherer organ Tangermünde, Wilde /Schnitger organ Lüdingworth and harpsichords by Bernhard von Tucher nach German and Italian baroque models). But the high quality of the music is never in doubt.

Raml´s Pachelbel is equally impressive. He really -as in Scheidt- displays the greatness of the music. The choice of the G Silbermann organ in St. Petri adds to the artistic and organological interest.

Cheers, it'll be good to have some more Pachelbel. MDG have a lot excellent artists!

[Jo498]

I have vol.1 of Raml's Pachelbel. Not too familiar with that music but I think I liked it. Pachelbel is extremely unfairly represented by the notorious canon and Gigue. His chamber music is also quite good and while I have not heard any of his choral/vocal stuff, there seems no reason why he should not be almost as well known as e.g. Biber and Buxtehude.
Probably with 17th century music today it's a little bit like late/high baroque music in the 1950s: A few pieces get played/recorded frequently (there must be more than two dozen "Rosary" sonatas, eclipsing not only Biber's other chamber music but most contemporaries as well) and the rest is hardly known at all. This is not to deny that e.g. the rosary sonatas are extraordinary and original pieces.

[Mandryka]

I have vol.1 of Raml's Pachelbel. Not too familiar with that music but I think I liked it. Pachelbel is extremely unfairly represented by the notorious canon and Gigue. His chamber music is also quite good and while I have not heard any of his choral/vocal stuff, there seems no reason why he should not be almost as well known as e.g. Biber and Buxtehude.
Probably with 17th century music today it's a little bit like late/high baroque music in the 1950s: A few pieces get played/recorded frequently (there must be more than two dozen "Rosary" sonatas, eclipsing not only Biber's other chamber music but most contemporaries as well) and the rest is hardly known at all. This is not to deny that e.g. the rosary sonatas are extraordinary and original pieces.

In early keyboard music, we live in a really exciting time. It's extraordinary how much Sweelinck has been recorded, how much Louis Couperin and Froberger. There's a complete Scheidt underway; a complete Arrauxo on correct Spanish style instruments, two or maybe three complere Titelouze, two complete Georg Bohm sets, a complete Andrea Gabrieli (to be released), at least two complete Frescobaldi surveys  . . .

As far as Pachelbel is concerned, you know there are two or maybe three complete Pachelbel keyboard works on record. But it's not easy to make the music come off the page. That's why I was  pleased to see a recommendation for Raml. 

[prémont]

In early keyboard music, we live in a really exciting time. It's extraordinary how much Sweelinck has been recorded, how much Louis Couperin and Froberger. There's a complete Scheidt underway; a complete Arrauxo on correct Spanish style instruments, two or maybe three complere Titelouze, two complete Georg Bohm sets, a complete Andrea Gabrieli (to be released), at least two complete Frescobaldi surveys  . . .

There is only one complete Titelouze (Bates). The others omit the Magnificats.
And I only know one complete Böhm set (Stella), unless you combine Tuinstra and Meyerson.
And a second complete Arauxo is on its way. According to the booklet in Bates´ Titelouze, he has recorded all Arauxo, which is going to be released by Loft.

As far as Pachelbel is concerned, you know there are two or maybe three complete Pachelbel keyboard works on record. But it's not easy to make the music come off the page. That's why I was  pleased to see a recommendation for Raml.

I only know two complete organ sets (Payne and Bouvard). What do you consider the third? The upcoming CPO set? Owens? And the harpsichord suites are virtually unrecorded (except Payne on BIS)

Of Raml´s two volumes I think vol.II is the most interesting as to the organ works, while vol. I on the other hand contains a beautiful harpsichord suite in e-minor, which easily equals the best contemporary similar Works (Böhm, Buxtehude).

BTW I find Raml´s Scheidt more mandatory than his Pachelbel, because there are a number of other very fine Pachelbel organ recordings (Jacob, Kelemen, Berger, Sluys e.g) but not many other Scheidt recordings. And because I find Scheidt´s organ works far more intersting than Pachelbels, no matter the performance.

[Mandryka]

Yes I remembered about the Titelouze  magnificats after I made that post. I'm going to see Bates play tomorrow in Bordeaux in fact, he's going to play a Titelouze hymn I think.

I was thinking of Tuinstra  for Bohm. I thought it was complete. I ordered it last week, but still haven't received it yet.

When I said a third Pachelbel, I was really just thinking of organ music, I was thinking of the CPO. I listened to some of Payne quite recently, some suites for harpsichord. I kind appreciate his straightforward style in a way.

I'll get Raml's Scheidt. It's Rubsam's Pachelbel -- and those magnificats that Neu plays -- which always make me curious to hear more Pachelbel. But it may be that Rubsam made a good selection, I don't know. But I agree with you, I prefer what I've heard by Scheidt.

[Que]

Raml´s Pachelbel is equally impressive. He really -as in Scheidt- displays the greatness of the music. The choice of the G Silbermann organ in St. Petri adds to the artistic and organological interest.

Since you recommend it, I will give Raml's Pachebel a try. In an online samples comparison of Pachebel recordings, to me he came across a solid yet somewhat uneventfull. I ended up with Andrus Madsen,  who did not disappoint  with  a superb 2CD set on which he plays the organ, harpsichord and clavichord. Really excellent !

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[Karl Henning]

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[Drasko]

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A definitive yes from me. I'm not so keen on the Mozart concertos but everything else is superb.

[Todd]

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I bought it at about twice the current price when it was brand-spankin' new and thought it well worth the outlay then, and still do.  The last four discs alone are worth the price, making the first four gravy.

[Karl Henning]

Thanks, gents.

[prémont]

Since you recommend it, I will give Raml's Pachebel a try. In an online samples comparison of Pachebel recordings, to me he came across a solid yet somewhat uneventfull. I ended up with Andrus Madsen,  who did not disappoint  with  a superb 2CD set on which he plays the organ, harpsichord and clavichord. Really excellent !

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I agree with you about Andrus Madsen.

As to Raml: choose vol. II first.

[Karl Henning]

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[Karl Henning]

Thanks to Todd, considering this:

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There was some banter about the 19^th-c. pieces which are part of this set, which reissues various albums.  So I was going to say, At least on the cover of this compilation, there are only 20^th-c. composers!  But it looks like the only Schoenberg piece is Verklärte Nacht — written in 1899.

[North Star]

There was some banter about the 19^th-c. pieces which are part of this set, which reissues various albums.  So I was going to say, At least on the cover of this compilation, there are only 20^th-c. composers!  But it looks like the only Schoenberg piece is Verklärte Nacht — written in 1899.

But arranged safely in the 20^th-c. 

[Karl Henning]

But arranged safely in the 20^th-c. 

You have found the silver lining!

[Karl Henning]

It only became a Classic in the 20^th century!

[The new erato]

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Consider this, the hint of the century
Consider this, the slip
That brought me to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies come
Flailing around
Now I've said too much

[Que]

I agree with you about Andrus Madsen.

As to Raml: choose vol. II first.

Thanks! 

Q

[Pat B]

Consider this
Consider this, the hint of the century
Consider this, the slip
That brought me to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies come
Flailing around
Now I've said too much

LEONARD BERNSTEIN!