Political Matrix

[Scarpia]

Interestingly, the first thing I did when I got home was go read this thread. I don't know even know why, because I'm not even interested in any of the topics.

It is just a perpetual train wreck from which it is impossible to look away.

[greg]

It is just a perpetual train wreck from which it is impossible to look away.

No matter how far I run away, it's like the train tracks seem to wrap around in front of me. Help, mama! 

[Philoctetes]

No matter how far I run away, it's like the train tracks seem to wrap around in front of me. Help, mama! 

Hence, why the diner is so fantastic.

[Philoctetes]

You still have the freedom to shout it; as long as you are prepared for the consequences.

Mike

No need to be so obvious. Clearly, that ruins the fun.

[Scarpia]

You still have the freedom to shout it; as long as you are prepared for the consequences.

Yes, that's the rub.  Our Teresa has the freedom to say whatever she pleases.  If anyone dares point out that she is talking nonsense, that is a denial of her freedom.  She has the freedom to say what she pleases and have it respected.  On the the other hand, our freedom to point out nonsense when we see it makes no impression on her.   

[Philoctetes]

Yes, that's the rub.  Our Teresa has the freedom to say whatever she pleases.  If anyone dares point out that she is talking nonsense, that is a denial of her freedom.  She has the freedom to say what she pleases and have it respected.  On the the other hand, our freedom to point out nonsense when we see it makes no impression on her.   

[Teresa]

Yes, that's the rub.  Our Teresa has the freedom to say whatever she pleases.  If anyone dares point out that she is talking nonsense, that is a denial of her freedom.  She has the freedom to say what she pleases and have it respected.  On the the other hand, our freedom to point out nonsense when we see it makes no impression on her.   

OK I am daring you to show me one single statement I have ever made that is nonsense!  Just one!  You will not find it as I have NEVER spouted nonsense in my entire life, never!   I spend a lot of time on my posts and I do my research.  I do not believe in nonsense!  Why do you make these things up?  What is your problem? 

nonsense |ˈnänˌsens|
noun
1 spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense : he was talking absolute nonsense.
• [as exclam. ] used to show strong disagreement : "Nonsense! No one can do that."
• [as adj. ] denoting verse or other writing intended to be amusing by virtue of its absurd or whimsical language : nonsense poetry.
2 foolish or unacceptable behavior : put a stop to that nonsense, will you?
• something that one disagrees with or disapproves of : the idea that the gut is full of toxins that have to be flushed away is dismissed as nonsense by gastroenterologists.

[Todd]

What weird perceptions you have!  As that was yet another brilliantly intelligent post I wrote.

BTW are you a woman hater Todd?

It is now possible to come to one of only two conclusions about Teresa: 

1.) She (or he) is a prankster.
2.) She (or he) is a fruitcake. 

Praising "her" own mediocrity (at best) as "brilliantly intelligent" and implicitly hurling the mighty misogynist label, because someone has the temerity to point out how dumb her posts are, in one post, leads to those two options.  Perhaps a poll is in order.

[Scarpia]

OK I am daring you to show me one single statement I have ever made that is nonsense!  Just one! 

How about when you claimed there was no dissonance in Rachmaninoff, and inspection of the score indicated there is an obvious dissonance in the first note that the piano plays in his most popular work?

[Teresa]

How about when you claimed there was no dissonance in Rachmaninoff, and inspection of the score indicated there is an obvious dissonance in the first note that the piano plays in his most popular work?

That was not nonsense but an error, I have NEVER said I was perfect.  And if you actually listen to the piece with your own ears you will not hear the dissonance, Rachmaninoff was very clever.  I firmly stand by my statement that Rachmaninoff is a tonal composer. 

I gave you the definition of nonsense so you would know what to look for.

[Teresa]

It is now possible to come to one of only two conclusions about Teresa: 

1.) She is a prankster.
2.) She is a fruitcake. 

Praising "her" own mediocrity (at best) as "brilliantly intelligent" and implicitly hurling the mighty misogynist label, because someone has the temerity to point out how dumb her posts are, in one post, leads to those two options.  Perhaps a poll is in order.

You are clearly a woman hater or you would not be attacking me for stating the obvious, when you clearly do not have the intelligence to understand.

All that you attacked me for is 100% true!  Why are you showing your stupidity by denying the truth and attacking some of the best written posts to ever appear on the internet?

Where are the factual errors in these posts?

"As a woman I resent the fact that we are viewed as baby-making machines.  Indeed I look forward to the day when babies never grow in our bellies but are grown in laboratories from our removed egg and sperm cells. 

IMHO since men cannot bear children they should have NO opinion one way or the other on abortion, it is a woman's issue NOT a man's issue.  Men are ONLY sperm donors and all the work of producing a viable human being is completely in the wombs of women.  If would be different if Men could get pregnant but they cannot not!"

"We can already combine egg and sperm in a petri dish, all is needed is an artificial uterus to grow a human being outside of the body." 

Will artificial wombs mean the end of pregnancy?

"No men have NO right to dictate the terms of any pregnancy, it is totally up to the Mother.  Oh, they can discuss and contribute their opinion but the final decision is made by the Mother who is carrying the baby.  When men can have babies (I guarantee you don't want to) then and ONLY then do they have any ultimate say in the matter."

Seems you may need a biology course?

Perhaps it is you who is a prankster or a fruitcake based on your illogical answers and attacks.  I am totally honest and speak 100% from the heart.  Plus I research my facts!  You owe me a big apology!

[Scarpia]

That was not nonsense but an error, I have NEVER said I was perfect.  And if you actually listen to the piece with your own ears you will not hear the dissonance, Rachmaninoff was very clever.  I firmly stand by my statement that Rachmaninoff is a tonal composer. 

More nonsense.  The inconsistency that you assume exists between music being tonal and music containing dissonance does not exist.  No one on the planet earth would claim that the music of Rachmaninoff is not tonal, although anyone with any training in music would recognize that he makes liberal use of dissonance.  I would be hard-pressed to find a sentence that you have typed into this web site that is not nonsense.

[Todd]

I am totally honest and speak 100% from the heart.

I have serious doubts. 

Ridiculing your posts most certainly does not make me a woman hater.  Aside from the fundamental logical problem in your assertion, no one here even knows for certain if you are in fact a woman.  Just because you claim to be doesn't mean you are. 

[Teresa]

More nonsense.  The inconsistency that you assume exists between music being tonal and music containing dissonance does not exist.  No one on the planet earth would claim that the music of Rachmaninoff is not tonal, although anyone with any training in music would recognize that he makes liberal use of dissonance.  I would be hard-pressed to find a sentence that you have typed into this web site that is not nonsense.

You still didn't read the definition of nonsense, as this two is an error. Since that time I have changed my wording to ugly sounding hard-dissonance to show my disdain for ugly dissonance versus rather brief tonally sound dissonance, since some people seem to attack people for no reason at all.  So the error was corrected in later posts. 

error |ˈerər|
noun
a mistake : spelling errors | an error of judgment. See note at mistake .
• the state or condition of being wrong in conduct or judgment : the money had been paid in error | the crash was caused by human error.
• Baseball a misplay by a fielder that allows a batter to reach base or a runner to advance.
• technical a measure of the estimated difference between the observed or calculated value of a quantity and its true value.
• Law a mistake of fact or of law in a court's opinion, judgment or order.
• Philately a postage stamp or item of postal stationery showing a major printing or perforation mistake.

[Teresa]

I have serious doubts. 

Ridiculing your posts most certainly does not make me a woman hater.  Aside from the fundamental logical problem in your assertion, no one here even knows for certain if you are in fact a woman.  Just because you claim to be doesn't mean you are.

If you are NOT a woman hater then at the very least you are a troll.  As you attacked the writer of well written posts that logically cannot be attacked because they are true, you evidently disagree with something in them, but you are keeping that to yourself. 

Your behavior makes you look like a fool.  You were better off being a woman hater.  BTW I was a woman last time a looked. 

You do not know how to win friends and influence people do you?

[Todd]

As you attacked the writer of well written posts that logically cannot be attacked because they are true, you evidently disagree with something in them, but you are keeping that to yourself.

This doesn't make any sense.  Try again.

[Daidalos]

      WHAT A BLATANT INSULT AND BALD-FACE LIE.  Why do you do this?

All of my writing is HIGHLY RATIONAL and WELL THOUGHT-OUT.   Every single point and counterpoint is spot on. 

However insults will not do, I DEMAND AN APOLOGY NOW!

Are you for real?

However rational and well thought-out you imagine your arguments to be, you give the impression of a raving loon. If you are serious about arguing for your frankly controversial opinions, you must take criticism in stride and not lose your temper. It does not help your case to indignantly proclaim the brilliant intelligence of your posts; you end up looking foolish and silly. Make your arguments, and if you are ridiculed that's tough, but it's incumbent upon you to rationally and calmly explain the logic behind your views, and not demand apologies for perceived insults.

And by the way, this is coming from someone who might be considered a "progressive", so I have no ideological axe to grind with you.

[Teresa]

This doesn't make any sense.  Try again.

OK I'll try make this clear enough even for you to understand!  If you disagree with someone's position or even their facts the civil way to do this to state what you disagree with and what your opinion is, not attack the person you disagree with for NO REASON WHATSOEVER given.  Do you not see how rude and anti-social this is? 

[Todd]

OK I'll try make this clear enough even for you to understand!  If you disagree with someone's position or even their facts the civil way to do this to state what you disagree with and what your opinion is, not attack the person you disagree with for NO REASON WHATSOEVER given.  Do you not see how rude and anti-social this is?

Nope, you're still not making any sense.  Try again.

[Teresa]

Nope, you're still not making any sense.  Try again.

I can't make it any plainer, do you understand the English language at all?

Try again, this is super easy to understand!

OK I'll try make this clear enough even for you to understand!  If you disagree with someone's position or even their facts the civil way to do this to state what you disagree with and what your opinion is, not attack the person you disagree with for NO REASON WHATSOEVER given.  Do you not see how rude and anti-social this is?