The Boris Johnson thread.

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Irons

Quote from: Mandryka on October 14, 2022, 11:31:51 AM
I think the markets are doing us a favour in this case, she was elected just by paying members of the Tory party, and they chose a dangerous extremist -- in her six weeks of government she has made every single Britain poorer.

However, I confess to being very concerned about how much power these markets have, the power to topple governments. Nobody elects the FX traders. I'm not sure what conclusions to draw.

I think you give her too much credit with "dangerous extremist" stupid and inept fits better. Since Cameron announced a referendum in 2013 to leave the EU, British politics has been a shower of s--t.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Brian

Wonder what percentage of Tory members who voted in her favor a few weeks ago have done any genuine introspection about their own judgment.

Mandryka

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Papy Oli

Home secretary gone now.

Tofu anyone ?  :laugh:

Quote from: Irons on October 17, 2022, 08:48:17 AM
British politics has been a shower of s--t.

shower seems insufficient now...What's the next level up ?  :(
Olivier

Mandryka

Her performance in Parliament today was so much better than her presser last week -- thank heavens for coke.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

vandermolen

We seem to be in complete political free-fall here now.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mandryka

Quote from: Brian on October 18, 2022, 03:34:15 PM
Wonder what percentage of Tory members who voted in her favor a few weeks ago have done any genuine introspection about their own judgment.

Just listen to Charles Walker here

https://twitter.com/DanJohnsonNews/status/1582808074875973633
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

The new erato

The Guardian has something to say, not completely without merit:

As you may have heard, this country has a new ruler. Jeremy Hunt now sets the government's course and even, critics carp, decides who sits around the cabinet table (so long, Suella Braverman, and thanks for all the tofu jokes); Liz Truss is merely his barely-human shield. But very few of this week's tributes to the "real prime minister" mention that precisely 18 people voted for him to take that job. That is the grand total of MPs who backed Hunt in this summer's Tory leadership contest, from which he was ejected in the very first round. Out of eight contenders, he came eighth. "Who voted for this?" Truss was asked when she unveiled her mini-budget. As Hunt dismantles her entire programme we know who voted for him, down to their very names. They make up 0.00003% of the population.

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Behind this mentality lies a whole mix of things, including the very understandable schadenfreude that comes with watching the Britannia Unchained lot find out that the markets don't actually love them back. And who wouldn't find joy in seeing the double-breasted, vacant-eyed, permanently post-prandial beetroots who between them make up the Conservative parliamentary party await an electoral tide that will sweep them out into generational oblivion? But the "markets know best" is not the lesson of the past few weeks, or the pandemic, or the bankers' bailout before it. And believing so puts you on a collision course with voters.

You can see the result today: the UK is once again in the grip of austerity and anti-democratic politics – when we got into this crisis precisely because of austerity and democratic failure. The vast spending cuts made by George Osborne wrecked our hospitals, our schools and our town halls, and stoked the frustrations that ensured Brexit. I heard it over and over while reporting before the referendum – passersby declaring they were voting out, and citing as their reason nothing to do with Brussels and almost everything to do with the Tories. Their mum's wait for an operation, their kids' inability to get a council house, the loss of industry, the black hole left by privatisation: 40 years of bombed-out economics and bullshit politics.

vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mandryka

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Papy Oli

Olivier

Papy Oli

Quote from: Mandryka on October 19, 2022, 11:34:16 AM
Just listen to Charles Walker here

https://twitter.com/DanJohnsonNews/status/1582808074875973633

I don't buy that "contrition" and I even find the playing of the tiny violin at the end of the interview absolutely disgraceful, personally,

Playing that sympathy card, that the majority of the conservative MP's losing their seat in the not-so-distant future will struggle to pay their bills like "normal" constituents is very hard to swallow, when they've been milking it, playing their internal political games and defending the indefensible since at least 2019, if not many years prior, while being on what, 80 grand a year salary, is it (and expenses...) ?

This whole lot deserve their comeuppance and it can't come soon enough.
Olivier

Florestan

Quote from: Papy Oli on October 20, 2022, 02:06:57 AM
I don't buy that "contrition" and I even find the playing of the tiny violin at the end of the interview absolutely disgraceful, personally,

Playing that sympathy card, that the majority of the conservative MP's losing their seat in the not-so-distant future will struggle to pay their bills like "normal" constituents is very hard to swallow, when they've been milking it, playing their internal political games and defending the indefensible since at least 2019, if not many years prior, while being on what, 80 grand a year salary, is it (and expenses...) ?

This whole lot deserve their comeuppance and it can't come soon enough.

Disgusting politicianist hypocrisy like that is quite common in Romania as well and fairly distributed across the whole political spectrum. Actually, the entire Romanian political class is just as contemptible and despicable as the British one.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Todd

Quote from: Mohamed El-Erian, President of Queen's College, CambridgeQuite a UK sequence of interactions between politics and economics in the last 4 weeks, and it's still ongoing.

In sum ...

Politics goes "too far and too fast" in defying economic logic;

Economics draws a line, forcing political U-turns; and

That unleashes a set of political disruptions

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Papy Oli

We should really rename that thread The Liz Tr...

nah, nevermind....



Olivier

Que


Irons

Quote from: Que on October 20, 2022, 06:07:30 AM
Boris will be back!  :D

Sunning himself along with Carrie and the kids in the Caribbean. He must be laughing his head off. 
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on October 20, 2022, 07:00:04 AM
Sunning himself along with Carrie and the kids in the Caribbean. He must be laughing his head off.
Perhaps you could convince Charles to abdicate from the throne and get elected as PM?  ;D

But seriously, I don't envy the mess that you're in.  The whole world is dealing with various messes, so you're not as alone as you may feel at the moment.  :(

PD

Que

Quote from: Irons on October 20, 2022, 07:00:04 AM
Sunning himself along with Carrie and the kids in the Caribbean. He must be laughing his head off.

Absolutely. Even he must be surprised how quickly he gets the opportunity for a comeback!