J.S. Bach on the Organ

[Jo498]

If I had seen earlier the Friedrich would have been actually cheaper used than the two separate Krapp discs I might have got his instead but for now I have to take a break from buying to listen... (and unfortunately I had several breakdowns of Hifi- and computer things recently so I cannot listen quite as much as I'd like to and not in the best quality).

[Jo498]

o.k., I now got Friedrich's Clavierübung III as well. I have not yet compared it to others (and except for the Eflat major P&F I do not yet know the music well enough to really compare anyway) but it certainly has very informative notes by Friedrich himself!

Also a very beautiful sounding recording by Rainer Oster, not the one mentioned in the list above with the Schnitger organ (that one has become very expensive) but with a different organ (Mühleisen 1991, see below, that's probably why it's not on the list), also on Arte Nova

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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholom%C3%A4us_%28Hasborn-Dautweiler%29

Does anyone have a list with the pieces on Bleicher's ebs discs? I do not want to get to many duplications... futile... but one can at least try.

[Que]

o.k., I now got Friedrich's Clavierübung III as well.

I'll be curious what you make of it.

Does anyone have a list with the pieces on Bleicher's ebs discs? I do not want to get to many duplications... futile... but one can at least try.

I could have typed it from the tracklist, but this is easier:

http://www.bayermusicgroup.de/index.php?page=artikel&currentLimit=&perPage=&listorder=5&search_cmd=quick&return_cmd=search&search=Stefan%2BJohannes%2BBleicher&artnr=ebs6012&lang=

http://www.bayermusicgroup.de/index.php?page=artikel&currentLimit=&perPage=&listorder=5&search_cmd=quick&return_cmd=search&search=Stefan%2BJohannes%2BBleicher&artnr=ebs6028&lang=

[Jo498]

Thanks! I probably could have found this myself, but as amazon did not have any info, I had not expected that it was easily findable.
Bleicher's Vol II. are very frequently recorded pieces; unless many think that this is really very special, because of either organ or playing I'll probably skip/postpone that one.

[Mandryka]

o.k., I now got Friedrich's Clavierübung III as well. I have not yet compared it to others (and except for the Eflat major P&F I do not yet know the music well enough to really compare anyway) but it certainly has very informative notes by Friedrich himself!

Also a very beautiful sounding recording by Rainer Oster, not the one mentioned in the list above with the Schnitger organ (that one has become very expensive) but with a different organ (Mühleisen 1991, see below, that's probably why it's not on the list), also on Arte Nova

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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholom%C3%A4us_%28Hasborn-Dautweiler%29

Does anyone have a list with the pieces on Bleicher's ebs discs? I do not want to get to many duplications... futile... but one can at least try.

The one on the Schnitger is good, worth snapping up if it ever becomes affordable. If you want I'll put it on symphonyshare.

[jlaurson]

J.S.Bach
Complete Organ Works
A.Isoir
La dolce Volta

Perhaps my favorite French set of Bach organ works.

[prémont]

J.S.Bach
Complete Organ Works
A.Isoir
La dolce Volta

Perhaps my favorite French set of Bach organ works.

Surprising, when Alain, Vernet and Amade (but not Chapuis) are so much better than Isoir.
But reviewers paths are often surprising.

[Mandryka]

Surprising, when Alain, Vernet and Amade (but not Chapuis) are so much better than Isoir.
But reviewers paths are often surprising.

Has Jens reviewed it? Whenever I press the image I just get to a sales site.

[prémont]

Has Jens reviewed it? Whenever I press the image I just get to a sales site.

No, I do not think he has written much more about it, than we can read above.
But his view is unequivocal.

[jlaurson]

Surprising, when Alain, Vernet and Amade (but not Chapuis) are so much better than Isoir.
But reviewers paths are often surprising.

Has Jens reviewed it? Whenever I press the image I just get to a sales site.

I have not, but I do really like it. Art of the Fugue (well, technically not part of the set... and the concertos, which I also adore, are not, either) is nay unbeatable.

I like Vernet, but not all of it; Alain II & III very much; Amade I've never heard a note of; I have no problem rating this higher than Foccroulle; ditto Lagace... and I hope we're not even talking about  Guillou.


http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2013/09/a-survey-of-bach-organ-cycles.html

[Mandryka]

For me there was too much important stuff in Isoir which I didn't enjoy as much as others: CU3 for example, and the Leipzig Chorales. To me he seemed a bit glib, but I could easily have missed stuff and if you really think that he's got interesting ideas about those preludes I'll go back to the recordings. As it happens both of those seemed to come off really well in Foccroulle's set. Isoir's AoF is fun,  I prefer the seriousness of Alain, but I can see that it's a hoot. I haven't heard the concertos.

[jlaurson]

For me there was too much important stuff in Isoir which I didn't enjoy as much as others: CU3 for example, and the Leipzig Chorales. To me he seemed a bit glib, but I could easily have missed stuff and if you really think that he's got interesting ideas about those preludes I'll go back to the recordings. As it happens both of those seemed to come off really well in Foccroulle's set. Isoir's AoF is fun,  I prefer the seriousness of Alain, but I can see that it's a hoot. I haven't heard the concertos.

Hmm... may have jumped the gun on Isoire... so far, it's still the AoF and Concertos that I like best... CU3 would be a touch-stone. But my tastes on that are wildly diverse (incl. Bowyer!), so my liking may not mean much to your preferences. If I come up with something remotely insightful regarding Isoir's set (or how it compares to others, to my ears), I will make mention of it here.


Meanwhile update on ionarts:

A Survey of Bach Organ Cycles

Updated: 04/24/2016: André Isoir and and the Hänssler cycle have been put into chronological order. The details of the organs used (on mouse-over, depending on your browser) are now included for Koopman, Alain III, Weinberger, Foccroulle and (partly) Phillips....


http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2013/09/a-survey-of-bach-organ-cycles.html

[kishnevi]

Does anyone have a copy of this, or any of the full set from which it is drawn?
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I am playing CD 2 and a few tracks have what sounds like static or crunchy tape.
I am wondering if there flaw is in the recording or my individual CD. The first CD (it is a doublet) was fine.

[Que]

I am playing CD 2 and a few tracks have what sounds like static or crunchy tape.
I am wondering if there flaw is in the recording or my individual CD. The first CD (it is a doublet) was fine.

Does sound like a misprint...

Q

[Harry]

Does anyone have a copy of this, or any of the full set from which it is drawn?
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I am playing CD 2 and a few tracks have what sounds like static or crunchy tape.
I am wondering if there flaw is in the recording or my individual CD. The first CD (it is a doublet) was fine.

You should contact Brilliant about it. They will listen to the copies they have, and when there is a problem, you might get replacements. But often they refund the money, for it is far too expensive to print the set anew. Sad but true! It happened once or twice to me.

[Mandryka]

Hmm... may have jumped the gun on Isoire... so far, it's still the AoF and Concertos that I like best... CU3 would be a touch-stone. But my tastes on that are wildly diverse (incl. Bowyer!), so my liking may not mean much to your preferences. If I come up with something remotely insightful regarding Isoir's set (or how it compares to others, to my ears), I will make mention of it here.


Meanwhile update on ionarts:

A Survey of Bach Organ Cycles

Updated: 04/24/2016: André Isoir and and the Hänssler cycle have been put into chronological order. The details of the organs used (on mouse-over, depending on your browser) are now included for Koopman, Alain III, Weinberger, Foccroulle and (partly) Phillips....


http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2013/09/a-survey-of-bach-organ-cycles.html

I saw a review of yours about Todd Fickley's CDs. I wonder if the organophiles will agree with you about the sound. It sounds a bit dodgy to me, but I'm not sure. I'll check sometime a recording of the real organ.

[kishnevi]

You should contact Brilliant about it. They will listen to the copies they have, and when there is a problem, you might get replacements. But often they refund the money, for it is far too expensive to print the set anew. Sad but true! It happened once or twice to me.

Thank you, I will do so once I get back home next week.

[jlaurson]

I saw a review of yours about Todd Fickley's CDs. I wonder if the organophiles will agree with you about the sound. It sounds a bit dodgy to me, but I'm not sure. I'll check sometime a recording of the real organ.

I think that bit about sound came close to being damnation by faint praise... but the *sound* certainly did not dodgy to me. Contained, perhaps... and again, I like Koito or whatever her name is, much better. But not muffled or anything of that sort.

[Mandryka]

. Contained,

Yes, that's the word. Agreed.

[prémont]

I saw a review of yours about Todd Fickley's CDs. I wonder if the organophiles will agree with you about the sound. It sounds a bit dodgy to me, but I'm not sure. I'll check sometime a recording of the real organ.

Before I read, how the Fickley CDs are produced, I acquired and listened to vol.1 (the one with the Zwolle organ). My spontaneous impression was, that this was the worst recording of this organ, I have heard. I found it particularly difficult to imagine where the microphones were located. Later I read about "Hauptwerk" and understood why.

The series might theoretically have been interesting, if the playing was exceptional, but Fickley just offers a rough and unrefined playthrough of the music.