The unimportant news thread

[T. D.]

Water or confetti?

Good one! I'd forgotten that detail.
My vague impression is water at the live game, but more often confetti on TV. Could be wrong.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I had to google that one! 

PD

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Clever!  https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66592170

PD

[BWV 1080]

And you're right, too. I guess it is well that I don't mistake even my own opinions as expressed on an internet forum for sacred writ. Sometimes one just spitballs, and a beneficial result of that is, the lucid, well-thought refutations which come back.

Thanks, all.

well, prediction is hard, especially about the future.   Past Chinese regime changes certainly were catastrophic

[JBS]

well, prediction is hard, especially about the future.   Past Chinese regime changes certainly were catastrophic

And there have been significant eras in Chinese history in which China was split into multiple states, sometimes with an emperor who nominally superior to everyone else, sometimes not.

[Todd]

Sir John Eliot Gardiner Quits Trojans After Singer Incident

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Just heard that Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin probably/maybe died due him being on to a "crashed plane".  Though it may have been shot down (over Russia)?  And it sounded like he was somewhere in Africa?!

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774

PD

[T. D.]

Just heard that Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin probably died due him being on to a "crashed plane".  Though it may have been shot down (over Russia)?

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774

PD

I just saw a similar story and came here to post it...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-23/prigozhin-listed-as-passenger-aboard-crashed-jet-interfax-says

Didn't exactly require Nostradamus to see that one coming. Though I expected something along the lines of defenestration or poisoning.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I just saw a similar story and came here to post it...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-23/prigozhin-listed-as-passenger-aboard-crashed-jet-interfax-says

Didn't exactly require Nostradamus to see that one coming. Though I expected something along the lines of defenestration or poisoning.

Sorry, I had just added to my original posting in that it sounded like he was in Africa?  And, yes, I didn't think that Putin would let him get away with that though possibly using him and his forces further--at least for a while if possible.

PD

[T. D.]

Sorry, I had just added to my original posting in that it sounded like he was in Africa?  And, yes, I didn't think that Putin would let him get away with that though possibly using him and his forces further--at least for a while if possible.

PD

I had seen a number of surprising (to me) stories over the past couple of months about Prigozhin being in Russia, specifically St. Petersburg.

This one (which I hadn't seen) came up on Google: https://www.rferl.org/a/prigozhin-st--petersburg-mutiny-summit/32522769.html

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Just heard that Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin probably/maybe died due him being on to a "crashed plane".  Though it may have been shot down (over Russia)?  And it sounded like he was somewhere in Africa?!

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774

PD

What a surprise!

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I had seen a number of surprising (to me) stories over the past couple of months about Prigozhin being in Russia, specifically St. Petersburg.

This one (which I hadn't seen) came up on Google: https://www.rferl.org/a/prigozhin-st--petersburg-mutiny-summit/32522769.html

Interesting!

What a surprise!

I know. 

PD

[Pohjolas Daughter]

What a day!  Rudy Giuliani is expected to surrender at Fulton County Jail today.  https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-66594115

PD

[T. D.]

What a day!  Rudy Giuliani is expected to surrender at Fulton County Jail today.  https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-66594115

PD

Will his hair dye melt?

What about the dopey lawyer (provided she hasn't yet been disbarred) victim of Rudy's flatus?

Oh, looks like she posted bond, so may have already surrendered. Aw shucks, no repeat.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4165159-trump-attorney-jenna-ellis-bond/#:~:text=According%20to%20prosecutors%2C%20Ellis%20was,oath%20by%20a%20public%20officer.

[Spotted Horses]

Just heard that Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin probably/maybe died due him being on to a "crashed plane".  Though it may have been shot down (over Russia)?  And it sounded like he was somewhere in Africa?!

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774

PD

Nine other people had to die because he didn't have the decency to fall out of a window?

[BWV 1080]

Nine other people had to die because he didn't have the decency to fall out of a window?

Maybe the crew was a loss (if they were civilians, not Wagner), but the passengers were his cronies so good riddance there.  Dmitry Ukin was also on the plane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Utkin

[AnotherSpin]

It cannot be ruled out that the demise of Prigozhin, Utkin, etc. was merely staged, and these nice gentlemen simply left the stage for a safe haven with an adequate provision.

[T. D.]

It cannot be ruled out that the demise of Prigozhin, Utkin, etc. was merely staged, and these nice gentlemen simply left the stage for a safe haven with an adequate provision.

This is currently plausible. There have been widespread accounts of P. employing dual aircraft, and the official announcements merely state that he was on the passenger list.

We will have to monitor official Kremlin/Russian media pronouncements. If the Kremlin declares P. dead, than any presumed "staging" would imply Russian state complicity, which is difficult to believe. On the other hand, the Kremlin will suffer serious loss of face if unable to prove his demise. For these reasons, given that Russia has thus far been somewhat communicative about the crash, I am inclined to doubt the "staging" theory.

There was mention of a second Wagner aircraft being recalled to Moscow. It'll be interesting to watch further developments there. Of course, that story angle might simply die on the vine.

[JBS]

It cannot be ruled out that the demise of Prigozhin, Utkin, etc. was merely staged, and these nice gentlemen simply left the stage for a safe haven with an adequate provision.

If this was a thriller/spy novel, then of course Prigozhin is in a secure location of his own choosing.

Since alas it is not, we must mourn him...for the practical reason that the more enemies Putin has the better for everyone else.

[LKB]

If this was a thriller/spy novel, then of course Prigozhin is in a secure location of his own choosing.

Since alas it is not, we must mourn him...for the practical reason that the more enemies Putin has the better for everyone else.

A " developing story ", as they say. But I expect Prigozhin is indeed gone, though I'll give the SOB some credit for living so long after his mutiny.