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Henk

Quote from: Greg on March 20, 2015, 12:16:22 PM
I only have a vague memory of it. Something to do with "Romanticism can conjure up images of ideal realities which aren't healthy to the mind" or something like that. Sorry, don't remember much more than that.


I think it's silly because there are so many people that find anime characters appealing. If everyone that did went to therapy, there'd probably be a couple million in this country alone. Same goes for girls, too. If you ever go to youtube and read through the comments section on Hetalia Axis Powers, it's nothing but fangirls drooling over male characters on every single episode. Hell, if I were a girl, Yuusuke (the middle black-haired guy in my avatar) would be my man crush just because he's a totally awesome character. I'm sure there's probably even a couple guys here who are into anime and find some of the girls attractive.

You can go over the line, of course. When you completely refuse real girls in favor of being only with a pretend wife, then that's just dumb.

Ok, I think it's rather a cultural disease then. I think it's not healthy the way you think, see and experience things, that's what I say, I tried to explain a bit, and you can do with it whatever you want.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Henk on March 20, 2015, 12:25:15 PM
Ok, I think it's rather a cultural disease then. I think it's not healthy the way you think, see and experience things, that's what I say, I tried to explain a bit, and you can do with it whatever you want.
Okay then, we have the funnest disease ever.  :D

Henk

Quote from: Greg on March 20, 2015, 12:29:42 PM
Okay then, we have the funnest disease ever.  :D

Your words.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

I'm reading a book about brainwashing these days. "Brainwashing, The science of thought control". It looks like you match some requirements.. Bad for you, Greg.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Ken B

Quote from: Henk on March 20, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
I'm reading a book about brainwashing these days. "Brainwashing, The science of thought control". It looks like you match some requirements.. Bad for you, Greg.

Greg's mind is too dirty for his brain to have been washed. I doubt it has even had a good rinse.

  :laugh:

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Ken B on March 20, 2015, 02:34:44 PM
Greg's mind is too dirty for his brain to have been washed. I doubt it has even had a good rinse.

  :laugh:
Giggity.  ;)

Henk

Quote from: Henk on March 20, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
I'm reading a book about brainwashing these days. "Brainwashing, The science of thought control". It looks like you match some requirements.. Bad for you, Greg.

"Meet some criteria" is probably better expressed, didn't try to insult you..
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Jo498

Quote from: Greg on March 20, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
So you like more masculine women?

Some of the characters can be the equivalent of male characters in romance novels. I'm not against that, either, even if they're totally fictional. I don't think it's an issue for anyone. It's just a fantasy, that's all.
It's probably what is called the "uncanny valley" (human-like but not quite). To describe the grotesque anime chimeras as "cute and feminine" frankly sounds utterly perverse to me. The contrast would not be "masculine women" but "human women"
Just imagine meeting someone who actually looked like that. It would totally creep me out. Whereas meeting e.g. Scarlett Johanson would probably have me blushing or stuttering like an idiot but it would turn me on.  :P
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Henk

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Quote from: Jo498 on March 21, 2015, 01:04:44 AM
It's probably what is called the "uncanny valley" (human-like but not quite). To describe the grotesque anime chimeras as "cute and feminine" frankly sounds utterly perverse to me. The contrast would not be "masculine women" but "human women"
Just imagine meeting someone who actually looked like that. It would totally creep me out. Whereas meeting e.g. Scarlett Johanson would probably have me blushing or stuttering like an idiot but it would turn me on.  :P

I also don't understand that description "masculine women", I understand what Greg means, but it shows he thinks quite strange. I would call it just "bold girls", I like that. Calling it "masculine", Greg misses the point.

I don't understand Greg at all when he talks about this subject. He transforms into a completely different person to me, than how I know him. His writing skills get suddenly very degrading. He gets unfriendly and shows very low IQ. Brainwashed.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

vandermolen

Quote from: NJ Joe on March 19, 2015, 05:33:03 PM
An excellent saying, and apropos to the subject at hand, imo.
Thank you  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Henk

Quote from: Greg on March 20, 2015, 12:16:22 PM
I only have a vague memory of it. Something to do with "Romanticism can conjure up images of ideal realities which aren't healthy to the mind" or something like that. Sorry, don't remember much more than that.

Nothing wrong with Romanticism (late-romanticism and all that stuff), it has some merits, but surely it doesn't work for me. I think it's good that people listen to it, Nietzsche has written interesting things about it. :)
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Sergeant Rock

#711
Quote from: Greg on March 20, 2015, 08:21:40 AM

I like the picture. I think every guy would appreciate this, though.  :P


Only guys who think the praying mantis is hot  ???  She has grotesquely large eyes; a grotesquely small lipless mouth; a single hole where the nose should be; and antennas growing out of her head. Yep, an insect girl  :D 




Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"


ibanezmonster

Quote from: Ken B on March 21, 2015, 03:04:04 PM
Dear god that's hot!
Totally. Especially the black, soulless eyes and the green skin.

Rinaldo

Quote from: Greg on March 21, 2015, 07:16:06 PMTotally. Especially the black, soulless eyes and the green skin.

And then she bites your head off, therefore she's a feminist. Beware!
"The truly novel things will be invented by the young ones, not by me. But this doesn't worry me at all."
~ Grażyna Bacewicz

Abuelo Igor

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 21, 2015, 05:14:36 AM
She has grotesquely large eyes

I am still puzzled by the amount of hate the "big eyes" alone seem to have earned for anime over the years. I always thought it was some vaguely racist thing along the lines of "the Japanese cannot face the fact that they have small, ugly eyes, so they overcompensate", but perhaps somebody could enlighten me as to the true reasons.
L'enfant, c'est moi.

Jo498

I think it started with using the cuteness paradigm (Kindchenschema) frequently employed in cartoons and children's but ended up with the grotesque pictures (combining exaggerated eyes with exaggerated boobs) Greg seems to like to poison his imagination with...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuteness
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Abuelo Igor

I was referring to the big eyes thing alone. "Kawaii" and "ecchi" were not included in what I said, just the eyes.
L'enfant, c'est moi.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Rinaldo on March 22, 2015, 03:43:16 AM
And then she bites your head off, therefore she's a feminist. Beware!
;D


I've always heard the eyes are so large because it helps the Japanese add expression to the characters. Everything evolved from American cartoons, of course. And then with that idea, eventually stuff like "moe" characters could be produced...

Abuelo Igor

Yeah, I know that. Nobody seems to hate Betty Boop so much, though. It's that, every time I cross paths with anime haters, it mostly boils down to "I can't stand those big eyes", like it offends them on a personal level or something.
L'enfant, c'est moi.