Inspired by our struggling neighbors and their poignant testimony on the CDCDCD thread . . . I thought that it might strengthen resolve to have a thread dedicated to CDCDCD Enders : )
It occurred to me that perhaps I am too cocky in the pleasure I have taken in not making any new music purchases yet in the new year (which is, after all, only five days old). So I impetuously resolved to be CD-abstemious throughout the month of January.
Who is with me? : )
Well, it looks like we've lost Que (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,15426.msg479409/topicseen.html#msg479409) to the Dark Side ; )
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 10:34:34 AM
Inspired by our struggling neighbors and their poignant testimony on the CDCDCD thread . . . I thought that it might strengthen resolve to have a thread dedicated to CDCDCD Enders : )
It occurred to me that perhaps I am too cocky in the pleasure I have taken in not making any new music purchases yet in the new year (which is, after all, only five days old). So I impetuously resolved to be CD-abstemious throughout the month of January.
Who is with me? : )
If this years sale at Abeille Musique is anything like last year, you're going to regret that resolution very soon. 8)
uh uh... uh uh uh ::)
Who is with you....you must be joking. Within 12 hours of the New Year I ordered two Moeran discs, they arrived today. Then on the 2nd, nothing daunted, Handel Arias sung by Bejun Mehta.....so there.
Mike
Quote from: snyprrr on January 05, 2011, 11:05:41 AM
uh uh... uh uh uh ::)
Is that you clearing your throat or your frontal lobe?
Mike
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:08:15 AM
Who is with you....you must be joking. Within 12 hours of the New Year I ordered two Moeran discs, they arrived today. Then on the 2nd, nothing daunted, Handel Arias sung by Bejun Mehta.....so there.
Mike
You're just throwing crack at him! :o
We will see how long it takes him to crack.
Mike
Well . . . some discs I ordered last year have yet to come in. I suppose that is a sort of taper . . . .
Quote from: Scarpia on January 05, 2011, 10:56:39 AM
If this years sale at Abeille Musique is anything like last year, you're going to regret that resolution very soon. 8)
You never know, the sale may spill over into February.
♫ I'll go it alone, that's how it must be;
I can't be right for somebody else If I'm not right for me . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:16:29 AM
Well . . . some discs I ordered last year have yet to come in. I suppose that is a sort of taper . . . .
Now was that the sound I heard of the shift from one foot to the other? >:D
Mike
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:19:48 AM
♫ I'll go it alone, that's how it must be;
I can't be right for somebody else If I'm not right for me . . . .
Happy place, Karl, happy place! :-*
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:20:12 AM
Now was that the sound I heard of the shift from one foot to the other? >:D
Well, I am pledged for January. If anyone else comes aboard, we might discuss the rigors of extending the freeze through February . . . .; )
Quote from: snyprrr on January 05, 2011, 11:21:57 AM
Happy place, Karl, happy place! :-*
Well, I'm still listening to earlier purchases, some of them for the first time . . . so I don't see this project as any hardship . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Well, I am pledged for January. If anyone else comes aboard, we might discuss the rigors of extending the freeze through February . . . .
Well, it's already been established that gift cards are exempt. What are the tax implications of having salary dispensed in the form of gift cards?
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
Well, I'm still listening to earlier purchases, some of them for the first time . . . so I don't see this project as any hardship . . . .
You are listening to them? What has
that got to do with the need to buy them?
Mike
I'm still with you but don't think I'll last much longer. I'm not the master of my domain...........
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
Well, I'm still listening to earlier purchases, some of them for the first time . . . so I don't see this project as any hardship . . . .
There ya go! That's what I do,... start with the earliest cd, and go through 'recitals' and such. I mean, I strategically got stuff I'm not to fond of, just for these times, tough nuts and such.
Yes, I think most everyone (except me) has oodles of unopened cds lying around. Hey, I volunteer to be your personal cd reviewer! PM me! ;D
haha, it's getting hard to keep up with the,.. the ...recovery!
Quote from: Scarpia on January 05, 2011, 11:30:56 AM
Well, it's already been established that gift cards are exempt. What are the tax implications of having salary dispensed in the form of gift cards?
Taxable as part of your reward in exchange for work. That will be $10 dollars please.
Mike
Quote from: erato on January 05, 2011, 11:32:14 AM
I'm still with you but don't think I'll last much longer. I'm not the master of my domain...........
Just as well there was no bet involved.
Mike
Quote from: Scarpia on January 05, 2011, 11:30:56 AM
Well, it's already been established that gift cards are exempt.
No, those purchases were booked last year; it's only the deliveries that are this month.
That is a very legalistic definition of a purchase. Are you going to pop up in March to tell us you ordered some impending releases last August?
Just wonderin'
Mike
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:32:09 AM
You are listening to them? What has that got to do with the need to buy them?
Mike
Judiciously managed, the act of listening can serve to retard the impulse to buy more . . . preoccupation, rather than disincentive, I mean.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:37:48 AM
Judiciously managed, the act of listening can serve to retard the impulse to buy more . . . preoccupation, rather than disincentive, I mean.
Oh, the classic misdirection moves. I guess they could work for a while.
Mike
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
That is a very legalistic definition of a purchase.
Simply practical, I thought. No monies going out. Ask a bank if that matters ; )
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:38:56 AM
Oh, the classic misdirection moves. I guess they could work for a while.
Often a challenge, to manage the will, I suppose : )
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:40:03 AM
.. . Ask a bank if that matters ; )
Or a freshman Republican Congressman
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:40:03 AM
Simply practical, I thought. No monies going out. Ask a bank if that matters ; )
Oh you are hiding behind the legal niceties. How about when it is the other way round, it arrives you listened to it and sold it on, but the credit card bill has not hit the deck? When is a purchase a purchase.....somewhere between order and it dropping through the door and you paying for it....a moveable feast depending on which side of the year end what you regard as the significant leg of the transaction falls.
Mike
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
Oh you are hiding behind the legal niceties. How about when it is the other way round, it arrives you listened to it and sold it on, but the credit card bill has not hit the deck? When is a purchase a purchase.....somewhere between order and it dropping through the door and you paying for it....a moveable feast depending on which side of the year end what you regard as the significant leg of the transaction falls.
Mike
If you want to play, we can certainly pitch the green as you please : ) I was arbitrary, but I am yet flexible
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:46:05 AM
If you want to play, we can certainly pitch the green as you please : ) I was arbitrary, but I am yet flexible
Well, I have an credit card that gives me gift certificates based on the amount charged per month. Just the opposite incentive I need. :-[
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
Well, I'm still listening to earlier purchases, some of them for the first time . . . so I don't see this project as any hardship . . . .
Does ordering mp3 downloads count? Maybe that is the methadone for the music junkie.
Hadn't considered the question . . . 'tis not my method. Not that there's anything wrong with it . . . .
And you're neglecting the most obvious coping mechanism. Just boost them. ;D
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 12:00:03 PM
Hadn't considered the question . . . 'tis not my method. Not that there's anything wrong with it . . . .
Come on. Just try one... You can stop any time you like...
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Quote from: jowcol on January 05, 2011, 12:11:54 PM
Come on. Just try one... You can stop any time you like...
Now, you see, that's what I was saying (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,15426.msg479373.html#msg479373) . . . but all my buds here are arguing that I am not yet in any position of quitting . . . .
Just have to get that Mendelssohn Dohnanyi box. And some Boulez.
Bless you, Henk! How could you have known that Mendelssohn is the easiest composer in the world for me to resist? : )
I am renewed in strength of resolve.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 12:21:42 PM
Bless you, Henk! How could you have known that Mendelssohn is the easiest composer in the world for me to resist? : )
I am renewed in strength of resolve.
If you bought a new Schoenberg album you could prove it!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 12:21:42 PM
How could you have known that Mendelssohn is the easiest composer in the world for me to resist? : )
Beware! You run the risk that Saul reads this, and your thread shall verily become filled with spam. :D
Just four bucks....with Mackerras....that Larghetto! :-[
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I'm out!
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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
Now, you see, that's what I was saying (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,15426.msg479373.html#msg479373) . . . but all my buds here are arguing that I am not yet in any position of quitting . . . .
There's never a good time to quit, so now is as good as any. Plus, how many days of 'abstinence' do you have? Five? Just keep those five days in mind. You already know how to go 24hrs without a purchase. There's nothing more anyone can teach you.
Be well, John Connor.
And the rest of you just want to see Karl relapse for your own sick enjoyment! >:D uhuhuh ::)
So, to follow your reference, are we to assume that, for the moment, Karl is still the master of his domain?
Come on and buy. It's a natural function... nothing to be ashamed about.
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 11:08:15 AM
Who is with you....you must be joking. Within 12 hours of the New Year I ordered two Moeran discs, they arrived today. Then on the 2nd, nothing daunted, Handel Arias sung by Bejun Mehta.....so there.
Mike
Which Moeran discs Mike? I too have ordered a Moeran CD since the New Year (Handley's recording of the Symphony - which I gave away and now MUST have again) - I too have fallen to the Dark Side >:D. My wife recently asked to see my last years bank statements to work out what we had been paying for our utilities, for tax purposes. When she saw the number of payments to Amazon she just said 'I think that you have an addiction' and returned the statements to me. True, but I guess one can have worse addictions (I keep telling myself that anyway and that it is all under control) - now, back to the Amazon site :D
I have the disc with both the violin concerto and the cello concerto. It also includes Lonely Waters and Wythorne's Shadow. I have really enjoyed the two concertos.
The other disc contains Symphony in G minor, Rhapsody for piano and orchestra and Overture for a Masque. I have not heard this disc yet, but bought it because I was so taken with the Symphony when I heard it some time ago.
Both are Chandos discs.
Mike
It's very easy to resist CDCDCD. Just be like me, and have a job which hardly pays you. Problem solved.
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/CHAN10638-19.jpg)
19 discs. 42 £.
Karl; you are permitted to break down now.
I'm keeping to my baby steps: I won't buy any new music before noon
Quote from: knight on January 05, 2011, 02:58:20 PM
I have the disc with both the violin concerto and the cello concerto. It also includes Lonely Waters and Wythorne's Shadow. I have really enjoyed the two concertos.
The other disc contains Symphony in G minor, Rhapsody for piano and orchestra and Overture for a Masque. I have not heard this disc yet, but bought it because I was so taken with the Symphony when I heard it some time ago.
Both are Chandos discs.
Mike
OT - the Cello Concerto is a masterpiece IMHO - the climax of the finale I find very moving (more so in the Peers Coetmore/Boult recording on Lyrita) - but the Chandos is very fine too - a great disc.
Quote from: vandermolen on January 06, 2011, 05:11:35 AM
OT - the Cello Concerto is a masterpiece IMHO - the climax of the finale I find very moving (more so in the Peers Coetmore/Boult recording on Lyrita) - but the Chandos is very fine too - a great disc.
Thanks to you I've been on a deep Moeran binge for the last three hours. Not buying, but listening. Three different versions of the symphony. Cello concerto up next.
Although I'm a big collector of 20th Century symphonies, I can honestly say I love the Moeran most of all. (RE: The Soul-link thread.)
Quote from: jowcol on January 06, 2011, 06:32:25 AM
Thanks to you I've been on a deep Moeran binge for the last three hours. Not buying, but listening. Three different versions of the symphony. Cello concerto up next.
Although I'm a big collector of 20th Century symphonies, I can honestly say I love the Moeran most of all. (RE: The Soul-link thread.)
Hmmmm. I'm sure I have a recording of that piece but I don't remember listening to it. ???
Guys, I think we have a separate thread for Morean. Now, get back to putting the pressure on Karl. >:D
I'm cooler than a cucumber. (Still no one else on board?)
Sorry, Karl, but the opposite's happening for me. Since I only purchased (if memory serves) 4 CDs between 1 Oct - 25 Dec, I am going on a minor spree. Amazon gift cards for Christmas bankrolled a lot of purchases, but it was my own money I spent when a Harmonia Mundi shop ambushed me in the tiny medieval streets of Girona, Spain. And, despite telling myself "you only bought stuff out of surprise," I'm planning to go back and get some more.
And I have indeed accounted for the Abeille Musique annual sale. Anyone know when it starts? [EDIT: My French is bad, but the site seems to say 12 Jan?]
When it ends, I will gladly abstain from CD purchases, therefore joining the CDCDCD Enders, from, say, February to June.
Quote from: Opus106 on January 06, 2011, 06:45:44 AM
Guys, I think we have a separate thread for Morean. Now, get back to putting the pressure on Karl. >:D
It's going to be hard to put pressure on him until the Richard Clayderman and John Tesh Box sets come out. At that point, all bets are off!
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:D
Karl,
Since I trust your taste so much, I am authorizing you to order any CD that you think is a must-have on my behalf. I have a favor to ask of you. Can you keep them for me (no storage charges, please) for the time being and, if I do not go to Boston later this year, maybe keep them indefinitely?
Just a thought. You kind consideration much appreciated!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 06, 2011, 03:27:40 AM
I'm keeping to my baby steps: I won't buy any new music before noon
Success!
And now . . . I won't buy any new music (even for Paul) before six o'clock . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 06, 2011, 08:30:46 AM
Success!
And now . . . I won't buy any new music (even for Paul) before six o'clock . . . .
You have inspired me,
Karl; but I will put a more ambitious goal: I won't buy any CD until January 12th. Yes, sir, I can do it! :D
Solidarity, Antoine! : )
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on January 06, 2011, 08:48:18 AM
You have inspired me, Karl; but I will put a more ambitious goal: I won't buy any CD until January 12th. Yes, sir, I can do it! :D
Not eating before the feast, eh? ;)
Quote from: Opus106 on January 06, 2011, 08:20:19 AM
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:D
Posting this before Der Henning is like waving a red flag in front of a Bull.
But, since we seem to be hell bent on ruining his resolve:
(And I honestly can't say which of the following is the most disturbing...)
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(http://nikkigsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/john-tesh-and-nikki.jpg)
You guys are making this easy!
Another day, and holding strong.
I've caved in. Look in the purchases thread. Still, it was almost two weeks since the last purchase.
Well, that was something! No doubt the pressure is higher in the Norwegian winter : )
There's a non-music item which is newly available, probably now. But I'll wait.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 09, 2011, 07:01:21 AM
There's a non-music item...
Ever since my mother-in-law said "and you call that music?", my music collection has shrunk by 45% or so. Thousands of CDs are now considered "non-music items".
I love it! : )
But this is the Firesign Theatre. Back in the day, they had a double-LP consisting mostly of bits of their radio shows, Dear Friends. I've been waiting for that to be available on CD, and now they have this massive CD-ROM plus book reissue of their entire radio transcripts which, actually, is exactly my sort of thing.
But I'll wait a bit.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 09, 2011, 07:26:06 AM
I love it! : )
But this is the Firesign Theatre. Back in the day, they had a double-LP consisting mostly of bits of their radio shows, Dear Friends. I've been waiting for that to be available on CD, and now they have this massive CD-ROM plus book reissue of their entire radio transcripts which, actually, is exactly my sort of thing.
But I'll wait a bit.
And I thought we were ALL bozos on this bus.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 09, 2011, 07:26:06 AM
I love it! : )
But this is the Firesign Theatre. Back in the day, they had a double-LP consisting mostly of bits of their radio shows, Dear Friends. I've been waiting for that to be available on CD, and now they have this massive CD-ROM plus book reissue of their entire radio transcripts which, actually, is exactly my sort of thing.
But I'll wait a bit.
You know what I am yearning for, 9 years after I came back to China? Vin Scully calling baseball games, on CD-ROM. That would be terrific (and certainly NOT count as musical purchases!)
Quote from: erato on January 09, 2011, 02:20:04 AM
I've caved in. Look in the purchases thread. Still, it was almost two weeks since the last purchase.
oh, you were setting yourself up the whole time, haha!
ok, one of the cds I've been 'tracking', one of those that are available for $40-80,... well, a $12 copy,.... and I must say this, from a vendor I'm not too confident about,... a $12 copy showed up, and, of course, I was bound by duty to 'retrieve' this 'lost friend' from the ether. I will be quite pleased if the actual right item appears, but like I said, "zoverstock" seem to be kinda shady. (I know I shouldn't have mentioned the name, but...)
Somehow, I have confidence though.
Still, I count this as 'old business', so, technically, I HAVEN'T bought anything yet.
btw- I'm not trying to discouraged Karl. Spend this time writing a piece for four trombones?
Quote from: snyprrr on January 09, 2011, 08:46:51 AMSpend this time writing a piece for four trombones?
Variations and Fugue on "CDCDCD"!
(Okay, it's not the most memorable subject -- therein lies the challenge.)
Well, one number for two trombones I wrote years ago does have C D C D in the upper voice . . . .
Quote from: erato on January 09, 2011, 02:20:04 AM
I've caved in. Look in the purchases thread. Still, it was almost two weeks since the last purchase.
Generally I do not post my aqusitions in the purchase thread :-X.
If I did so Karl would consider me mad :o.
(Please don´t tell him) ;D
I don't know . . . such behavior would likely strike me as perfectly sensible ; )
Quote from: PaulSC on January 09, 2011, 02:21:20 PM
Variations and Fugue on "CDCDCD"!
(Okay, it's not the most memorable subject -- therein lies the challenge.)
Actually, I like it. It has a taffy pulling sound, no? Stretch it out a bit!
Quote from: erato on January 09, 2011, 02:20:04 AM
I've caved in. Look in the purchases thread. Still, it was almost two weeks since the last purchase.
I was close to caving in this morning. I hadn't started the day with the thought I will not make any purchase before noon.
I caught myself, though. Holding fast.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 10, 2011, 07:26:19 AM
I was close to caving in this morning. I hadn't started the day with the thought I will not make any purchase before noon.
I caught myself, though. Holding fast.
Your CDCDCD is out in the parking lot doing pushups! Good for you to catch yourself. One must nip these things early in the day,... as Paul said, I die daily!!!
Still, I fear a relapse is in your future Karl. All this constipative backup is probably going to cause diarrihea in your wallet in Feb. Take some financial metamucil now!!!!
Quote from: erato on January 06, 2011, 01:55:49 AM
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19 discs. 42 £.
Karl; you are permitted to break down now.
Well, yesterday while GMG was broken down, and half of us had the no-GMG jitters . . . I yielded to temptation, as well.
A brick-&-mortar shop a couple of blocks away had the last Genesis (studio) box discounted, and for $45, I could not forbear.[asin]B000WETHXU[/asin]
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 12, 2011, 05:49:57 AM
Well, yesterday while GMG was broken down, and half of us had the no-GMG jitters . . . I yielded to temptation, as well.
A brick-&-mortar shop a couple of blocks away had the last Genesis (studio) box discounted, and for $45, I could not forbear.
[asin]B000WETHXU[/asin]
I suppose you have the pre-83 discs? A quite different animal that Genesis.
Aye, I fetched in those two boxes much earlier. Wasn't sure I wanted to trouble with this one. But soft! I'll take this to the Non-Classical Music Listening Thread . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 12, 2011, 06:31:13 AM
Aye, I fetched in those two boxes much earlier. Wasn't sure I wanted to trouble with this one. But soft! I'll take this to the Non-Classical Music Listening Thread . . . .
shakes head,... mm mm mm mm mm ::)
It's 'soft', huh Karl? So THIS is what you've been holding out for? ::) oy!
oh,... and your Thread here?,... ok,... 'Developing Resistance' has now taken on less than ironic dimensions.
Quote from: snyprrr on January 12, 2011, 07:23:45 AM
oh,... and your Thread here?
Well, I intended the thread for general interest. At the time that I created the thread, I didn't know that I was flying solo . . . and thus essentially allowing myself as a sort of target (not that I see any cross-hairs, or anything).
So, what do you advise? Shall I close the thread because of this lapse?
Perhaps you're right. There's really no point in leaving the thread operational if it is (as seems to have turned out) "about me."
Good-night, sweet thread!
OTOH, since we are striving for resistance, rather than absolute immunity . . . thread on!
Purchase-free all morning. I will not buy any music before six o'clock . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 12, 2011, 07:32:14 AM
Well, I intended the thread for general interest. At the time that I created the thread, I didn't know that I was flying solo . . .
You weren't flying solo at the time; but I turned out to be Icarus.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 13, 2011, 08:25:52 AM
OTOH, since we are striving for resistance, rather than absolute immunity . . . thread on!
Purchase-free all morning. I will not buy any music before six o'clock . . . .
from the 'CDCDCD Reference Manual':
"Once a subject has relapsed, they will reach their previous bottom, quicker and harder, than before."Can you stop at just one? just one Box? just one Cycle? just one Series? just one Genre? just...Karl, dimmit man (slap,slap,slap), can't you see you're tearing... this... family... apaaaaaart???? :o :o :o
To the rest of you: Do you see how Karl is masking his disease by diverting your attention away from the unmanageability, the core of this problem, which is what we are working on in the,... other Thread!!! Don't let Karl lull you into a false sense of security with his devil-may-care attitude. Soon you will all see what happens when a Hard Core Junkie falls off the wagon and starts to justify massive BoxSet Purchases as necessary 'food'. It won't be pretty, let me assure you. Tsk, tsk. ::)
btw- no way am I allowing your week old Thread (1,000 views) to challenge the Supremity of myyyyyyyy Thread (7,000 views) just because everybody likes you!! Nanny nanny!!! :P You will all pay dearly come Sale Day!!! :-*
Since the Abeille Musique sale was a total dud, I'm in. No purchases 'til August. This will be difficult.
Quote from: Brian on January 13, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
I'm in. No purchases 'til August. This will be difficult.
Don't check the latest post in the Super Duper Bargains thread :-*
Quote from: Brian on January 13, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
Since the Abeille Musique sale was a total dud, I'm in. No purchases 'til August. This will be difficult.
Wow, 'til August! We're here for you, buddy!Quote from: snyprrr on January 13, 2011, 09:51:50 AM
. . . Tsk, tsk. ::)
Join us. You know you want to!
Quote from: snyprrr on January 13, 2011, 09:57:18 AM
btw- no way am I allowing your week old Thread (1,000 views) to challenge the Supremity of myyyyyyyy Thread (7,000 views) just because everybody likes you!! Nanny nanny!!! :P You will all pay dearly come Sale Day!!! :-*
Wow...do people really track things like this?
Quote from: Brian on January 13, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
Since the Abeille Musique sale was a total dud, I'm in. No purchases 'til August. This will be difficult.
Sure...and why not cure cancer while you're at it?
Quote from: Lethe on January 13, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Don't check the latest post in the Super Duper Bargains thread :-*
Thank God...no temptation for me. (37 discs of Britten? Are they
serious?)
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 13, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
Thank God...no temptation for me. (37 discs of Britten? Are they serious?)
Yeah, that was my thought.
This is going to be difficult, but the only real obstacles I see are
1. Running into Harmonia Mundi stores on my travels in continental Europe
2. Hyperion's Please Buy Me
The only thing that's really on my wishlist is the Bernstein Symphony Edition, which will never reach my price range anyhow. But if I get a fellowship from a PhD program and some guaranteed income + teaching work, I'll splurge on it and take it to the new school.
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 13, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
Thank God...no temptation for me. (37 discs of Britten? Are they serious?)
: )Oh, it's not everyone's money, I grant.
Quote from: Brian on January 13, 2011, 11:00:54 AM
The only thing that's really on my wishlist is the Bernstein Symphony Edition, which will never reach my price range anyhow.
Not this side of August, certainly! : )
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 13, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
: )
Oh, it's not everyone's money, I grant.
If only I weren't saving for the 100 CD collection of Grofe's greatest masterpieces.
Good thing I had swallowed my tea before reading that! : )
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 13, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
Thank God...no temptation for me. (37 discs of Britten? Are they serious?)
Serious? I have it! :o
Quote from: erato on January 13, 2011, 11:29:21 AM
Serious? I have it! :o
And perhaps you love it. No reason you shouldn't. I just compare that with the monster box of Stravinsky at 22 discs and reflect that 37 discs could comprise nearly all of Beethoven's symphonies, quartets, piano sonatas, concertos, violin & cello sonatas, trios, and a bit more besides, and I'm a bit surprised that enough folks think Britten's of equal stature for the company to believe this issue will turn a profit.
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 13, 2011, 11:41:03 AM
And perhaps you love it. No reason you shouldn't. I just compare that with the monster box of Stravinsky at 22 discs and reflect that 37 discs could comprise nearly all of Beethoven's symphonies, quartets, piano sonatas, concertos, violin & cello sonatas, trios, and a bit more besides, and I'm a bit surprised that enough folks think Britten's of equal stature for the company to believe this issue will turn a profit.
Judging from here, it seems to be doing well. I would probably have gotten it, except that I get the impression it is mostly vocal music.
In any case, I canceled an order today (for a 9CD "Original Master" set containing Martinon's Decca recordings from the 50's). Does that mean I can order 9 CDs without breaking the pact?
Quote from: Scarpia on January 13, 2011, 11:46:08 AM
I canceled an order today
Does that mean I can order 9 CDs without breaking the pact?
9 spot? 8)
I got 9 spot. 8) 9 spot on da corner.
9 spot, any want a 9 spot?
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 13, 2011, 11:41:03 AM
And perhaps you love it. No reason you shouldn't. I just compare that with the monster box of Stravinsky at 22 discs and reflect that 37 discs could comprise nearly all of Beethoven's symphonies, quartets, piano sonatas, concertos, violin & cello sonatas, trios, and a bit more besides, and I'm a bit surprised that enough folks think Britten's of equal stature for the company to believe this issue will turn a profit.
Depends upon how interested you are in Britten of course. The thing with boxes like these are that they can be a very good purchase even if you only are interested in 40% of the stuff. Britten are interesting enough to me that I'd like to hear most of his output at least once. Probably would never happen without a box like this, too timeconsuming to aquire, and no way I will pay full price for discs I'm fully expecting never to play more than once in many cases.
But I do realize that paying 25£ for 50 discs and playing a couple of them makes for very bad value for money, and not the other way round as many seems to think. I have a couple of these and never again.
Not sure that I see a downside - it costs almost nothing, and as one of the most precocious composers of the century, most of the stuff will sound great.
Although if you feel an obligation to listen to every CD you own, that's one that I can't share :)
Two week into the new year and not one CD purchased yet. (Two books, however... :-[ )
Quote from: Brian on January 13, 2011, 11:00:54 AM
Yeah, that was my thought.
This is going to be difficult, but the only real obstacles I see are
1. Running into Harmonia Mundi stores on my travels in continental Europe
2. Hyperion's Please Buy Me
Please Buy Me is already testing me with an absolutely fantastic-sounding CD of Leo Weiner's violin sonatas. The samples are glorious and right up my alley. No! No! Bad boy!
Quote from: Brian on January 16, 2011, 02:37:21 AM
Please Buy Me is already testing me with an absolutely fantastic-sounding CD of Leo Weiner's violin sonatas. The samples are glorious and right up my alley. No! No! Bad boy!
I ordered it, so it will be disappearing from PBM soon. >:D Also picked up that 2-fer of English music for clarinet and piano.
Another day, and holding strong.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 24, 2011, 05:24:09 AM
Another day, and holding strong.
Between box sets and regular CDs I think I got about 60 this month alone. It's hopeless, so I guess I need to counter getting depressed over it by getting a
few more. ;)
I still buy albums but mostly rock these days.
Quote from: petrarch on January 24, 2011, 05:27:21 AM
Between box sets and regular CDs I think I got about 60 this month alone. It's hopeless, so I guess I need to counter getting depressed over it by getting a few more. ;)
Well, looking at last year, I see that I found it a little too easy to be a little too trigger-happy. Not that I am at all discontented with anything I fetched in . . . good quality-filtration in place. Longer-term I am looking, not for cold turkey, but just for a bit more discipline. Maybe if every other month, I forbear from purchases.
We'll see; I consider this a work-in-progress.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 24, 2011, 05:51:47 AM
Well, looking at last year, I see that I found it a little too easy to be a little too trigger-happy. Not that I am at all discontented with anything I fetched in . . . good quality-filtration in place. Longer-term I am looking, not for cold turkey, but just for a bit more discipline. Maybe if every other month, I forbear from purchases.
We'll see; I consider this a work-in-progress.
Don't know if it will help you (and others), but I always wait for sales/coupons/etc. before buying these days. This helps push the purchase into the future, where I find (as you may) that I don't always want what I wanted yesterday (or at least not as strongly). If nothing else, this helps prioritize what I really want.
Sometimes I also enjoy seeing how much I can get with a limited amount. It becomes a game, and I enjoy getting every penny's worth sometimes (not everyone feels this way though).
Quote from: ukrneal on January 24, 2011, 06:02:34 AM
Don't know if it will help you (and others), but I always wait for sales/coupons/etc. before buying these days. This helps push the purchase into the future, where I find (as you may) that I don't always want what I wanted yesterday (or at least not as strongly). If nothing else, this helps prioritize what I really want.
Sometimes I also enjoy seeing how much I can get with a limited amount. It becomes a game, and I enjoy getting every penny's worth sometimes (not everyone feels this way though).
That's the right idea. Actually, in most cases even in the apparent "spree" last year, I applied the same notion.
Quote from: ukrneal on January 24, 2011, 06:02:34 AM
Don't know if it will help you (and others), but I always wait for sales/coupons/etc. before buying these days. This helps push the purchase into the future, where I find (as you may) that I don't always want what I wanted yesterday (or at least not as strongly). If nothing else, this helps prioritize what I really want.
I have lost far too many opportunities with waiting for sales or promotions. Some of what I buy is typically released in limited quantities and somewhat difficult to find either online or in brick-and-mortar shops, and tends to get OOP easily; for that stuff, I usually check a few samples and pull the trigger if it appears to be interesting or good. For the rest of it, I do a fair amount of research and always check and compare prices at the brick-and-mortar shops I usually go to, the label (if they have an online shop) and across a number of online retailers across the US, Canada and Europe. This new feature of the Amazon iphone app has made it trivially easy to check prices on-the-fly--the app has a bar code scanner that finds the item automatically and navigates to its details, so in 10 seconds you can get a good idea if the item on your hand has a good price or not.
Quote from: petrarch on January 24, 2011, 06:22:04 AM
I have lost far too many opportunities with waiting for sales or promotions. Some of what I buy is typically released in limited quantities and somewhat difficult to find either online or in brick-and-mortar shops, and tends to get OOP easily; for that stuff, I usually check a few samples and pull the trigger if it appears to be interesting or good.
And I fully expect that quite some stuff I want is on it's end as a CD product, i.e. if available ever again it wil be as downloads. As i'm not interested in downloads, some stuff must be bought now if I want is on disc.
Another day, and still holding strong.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 25, 2011, 11:32:48 AM
Another day, and still holding strong.
Still the master of his domain. But is it worth it?
(http://www.kistenet.com/brandon/images/TV/Great%20Episodes/50/Seinfeld%20The%20Contest.jpg)
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 25, 2011, 11:32:48 AM
Another day, and still holding strong.
Of course, if a certain set of quartets were to show up, it just might trigger another buying spree. Otherwise, I might be tempted to go a year. Hmmm...what if I told myslef I couldn't buy anymore CDs until I've listened at least once to every one I already have?
Quote from: erato on January 24, 2011, 06:54:45 AM
And I fully expect that quite some stuff I want is on it's end as a CD product, i.e. if available ever again it wil be as downloads. As i'm not interested in downloads, some stuff must be bought now if I want is on disc.
Unassailable logic! ;)
btw- Karl only has 5 days left to go. He's playin' 'possum! ;)
Say, you're right: from here to the end of the month is just coasting!
I mean, sure, I've got two recordings lined up which I want to purchase in February. But I'm planning on making March a "dry month," too . . . .
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 25, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
Of course, if a certain set of quartets were to show up, it just might trigger another buying spree. Otherwise, I might be tempted to go a year. Hmmm...what if I told myslef I couldn't buy anymore CDs until I've listened at least once to every one I already have?
Yes, just catching up on listening to what one has already bought is a pretty easy new-purchase-deferral strategy! : )
Today is the last day of January, of course . . . but since I faltered here (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17764.msg480746.html#msg480746), I am extending the wallet seal until Monday, 14 February.
Anyone else? No? : )
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 31, 2011, 06:23:03 AM
Today is the last day of January, of course . . . but since I faltered here (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17764.msg480746.html#msg480746), I am extending the wallet seal until Monday, 14 February.
Anyone else? No? : )
But that was a non-classical purchase. Surely that doesn't count!! :P
Hah!
This is one space where, for me, it's just all music ; )
I bought the Supraphon Mackerras memorial box with Martinu and Janacek this month, but it hasn't arrived yet, and anyway my no-CDs deadline is still far, far ahead. :(
What I ordered on Dec28 hasn't arrived yet from amazon.uk.
I've never ordered from amazon.uk before.
Not getting things in the mail is one of the biggest CDCDCD triggers, no? I DEMAND SASSISFACTION!!!
Quote from: snyprrr on January 31, 2011, 07:50:47 AM
What I ordered on Dec28 hasn't arrived yet from amazon.uk.
I've never ordered from amazon.uk before.
Not getting things in the mail is one of the biggest CDCDCD triggers, no? I DEMAND SASSISFACTION!!!
Until recently, items ordered from the UK (Amazon, MDT, Presto) arrived in the States a few days--faster than US media mail. My last UK order, placed Dec 21st from MDT and not shipped until Jan 5 (give 'em a break, it was Christmas/New Year) still hasn't arrived. Other posts here suggest it's Homeland "Security" at fault.
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 31, 2011, 08:41:01 AM
Until recently, items ordered from the UK (Amazon, MDT, Presto) arrived in the States a few days--faster than US media mail. My last UK order, placed Dec 21st from MDT and not shipped until Jan 5 (give 'em a break, it was Christmas/New Year) still hasn't arrived. Other posts here suggest it's Homeland "Security" at fault.
No - weather. Storms have delayed everything (at least, it is part of the story).
Quote1 order placed in the last 30 days
. . . and that was coffee (thereby hangs a tale).
Meanwhile, I'm good with this (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17764.msg486934.html#msg486934).
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 31, 2011, 08:41:01 AMMy last UK order, placed Dec 21st from MDT and not shipped until Jan 5 (give 'em a break, it was Christmas/New Year) still hasn't arrived. Other posts here suggest it's Homeland "Security" at fault.
My last UK order, placed Jan 5 from MDT, hasn't arrived yet... and I'm in the UK. ???
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 31, 2011, 08:41:01 AM
Other posts here suggest it's Homeland "Security" at fault.
I had a sneaking suspicion it was something stupid like that.
On track (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17764.msg486934.html#msg486934).
Quote from: jowcol on January 25, 2011, 12:03:01 PM
Still the master of his domain. But is it worth it?
(http://www.kistenet.com/brandon/images/TV/Great%20Episodes/50/Seinfeld%20The%20Contest.jpg)
;D
Feeling great, thanks!
I don't see floodgates opening on Monday, either . . . so all is calm, all is bright ; )
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 31, 2011, 08:41:01 AM
Until recently, items ordered from the UK (Amazon, MDT, Presto) arrived in the States a few days--faster than US media mail. My last UK order, placed Dec 21st from MDT and not shipped until Jan 5 (give 'em a break, it was Christmas/New Year) still hasn't arrived. Other posts here suggest it's Homeland "Security" at fault.
Finally received the Vermeer set from MDT, more than a month after it shipped via air mail. Strange. Box arrived intact, obviously undisturbed since posting. Now listening to op. 59:1. Big sound--full and a bit dark--broad tempos but sharp, not soporific. Seems like a nice alternative to the cycles I already have.
Still haven't bought any CDs in the new year, though I have been tempted once or twice. ;^)
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 09, 2011, 02:24:58 PMNow listening to op. 59:1. Big sound--full and a bit dark--broad tempos but sharp, not soporific. Seems like a nice alternative to the cycles I already have.
Sounds like the Vermeers indeed! They're only my second set, but they've completely shoved the Endellions out of the picture. Not that there's anything wrong with the Endellion Quartet at all, but I got that set because it was the cheapest and the Vermeer Quartet seems to be interpretively exactly what I want to hear in this music, right now, and as the Endellions were a good introduction to Op 18 so the Vermeers are just how I want to be introduced to Opp 59/3, 74, 95, 127... at least as far as I know. ;D
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 09, 2011, 02:24:58 PM
Finally received the Vermeer set from MDT, more than a month after it shipped via air mail. Strange. Box arrived intact, obviously undisturbed since posting. Now listening to op. 59:1. Big sound--full and a bit dark--broad tempos but sharp, not soporific. Seems like a nice alternative to the cycles I already have.
Glad you are enjoying it. I've only had the complete set for a few years, but got the late quartet recordings when they were individual "new releases" on Telefunken. My favorite cycle overall.
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 09, 2011, 02:24:58 PM
Finally received the Vermeer set from MDT, more than a month after it shipped via air mail. Strange. Box arrived intact, obviously undisturbed since posting. Now listening to op. 59:1. Big sound--full and a bit dark--broad tempos but sharp, not soporific. Seems like a nice alternative to the cycles I already have.
Still haven't bought any CDs in the new year, though I have been tempted once or twice. ;^)
You give me hope, Dave! Perhaps mine will arrive before much longer, too.
Hmmm--maybe it's coming via Borneo?
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 10, 2011, 06:43:08 AM
Hmmm--maybe it's coming via Borneo?
Parcel only just now delivered!
It does have a Sulawesi stamp on it . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 10, 2011, 08:23:35 AM
Parcel only just now delivered!
It does have a Sulawesi stamp on it . . . .
If only the sulawesi postal inspector had added a pound of coffee....
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 10, 2011, 08:23:35 AM
Parcel only just now delivered!
It does have a Sulawesi stamp on it . . . .
Delivered by rhino mail.
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/5/0/2/9/0/1/webimg/436470572_o.jpg)
Slow but steady.
Quote from: Szykniej on February 10, 2011, 12:29:05 PM
Delivered by rhino mail.
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/5/0/2/9/0/1/webimg/436470572_o.jpg)
Slow but steady.
Ah, rhino mail, with the horny delivery men!
I'm with ye...sort of.
Every CD I buy, it's the same old poop, different recording. I've heard it all so why do I keep buying it? Beats me.
Blargh.
Quote from: mn dave on February 11, 2011, 12:32:09 PM
Every CD I buy, it's the same old poop, different recording. I've heard it all so why do I keep buying it? Beats me.
I keep hoping the search for the Grail will lead me one day to Castle Anthrax.
Quote from: mn dave on February 11, 2011, 12:32:09 PM
Every CD I buy, it's the same old poop, different recording. I've heard it all so why do I keep buying it? Beats me.
Blargh.
Even this?
(http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/the-manhattan-transfer/album-the-manhattan-transfer-meets-tubby-the-tuba.jpg)
:D
Quote from: Brian on February 11, 2011, 02:55:02 PM
Even this?
(http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/the-manhattan-transfer/album-the-manhattan-transfer-meets-tubby-the-tuba.jpg)
Stokowski's classic recording with the Vienna Philharmonic and real Wagner tubas is preferred by purists, especially the bootleg off-the-air version remastered by Ward Marston on Golden Age Records.
Now I seem to be buying back all my old pop and rock albums. ;D
Quote from: mn dave on February 12, 2011, 06:33:56 AM
Now I seem to be buying back all my old pop and rock albums. ;D
I went through quite a similar phase. (Not quite all, to be sure.)
I've remained strong ; )
Chances are I could make February purely music-purchase-free, but for the moment I am leaving my whimsical option open.
Okay, officially off at present. (Although I am keeping the 'damages' to below $50.)
Seriously thinking of giving it another go for the month of March, though. Anyone else?
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 18, 2011, 04:47:49 PM
Okay, officially off at present. (Although I am keeping the 'damages' to below $50.)
Seriously thinking of giving it another go for the month of March, though. Anyone else?
Well, because of Double Billing, receiving things I didn't ask for,... now my Bank Card is on Hold,... meaning I'm getting a whole new number (AGAIN! >:D) and all that fun. Sooo,... looks like my decision has been made for me.
Just in case I wasn't clear:
>:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Nope, not a word.
I'm already freakin' ruined for this month. I had maxed out my budget for the last fiscal period (16th to 15th of the month) and determined that I would be more prudent this period. 0:)
Then a couple of things happened. Don't they always happen? Vol. 6 of the Hogwood Complete Haydn Symphonies came available at a good price in very good condition and I had to continue that commitment. Then, the Haydn Sinfonietta Wien "Complete Early Divertimentos" box came available today, which I have been waiting for nearly 3 years. OK, so I started off the month badly with a -$90 balance. can't I make it through the remainder somehow? C'mon, guys, you're not helping me here... :'(
8)
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Now playing:
Ruf \ Lautenberger & Nielen \ Beyer 7 Berndt \ Uhl \ Koch \ Hoffman & Irmscher - Hob 07h:1 Concerto in C for 2 Lira organizzata (Naples Version) 3rd mvmt - Finale: Allegro
April, what do you think? A good month to exercise fiscal discipline?
Quote from: Apollon on March 18, 2011, 04:12:40 AM
April, what do you think? A good month to exercise fiscal discipline?
An excellent month do so! ....hmmm..... That doesn't include CDs though, does it? ;)
Dude! The thread header . . . .
; )
Quote from: Apollon on March 18, 2011, 04:12:40 AM
April, what do you think? A good month to exercise fiscal discipline?
Here, on the eve of the April Fool, I'll say I'm in, starting tomorrow.
Maybe I'll make it two months . . . keep 'dry' for May, too. Who knows?
I will defy your evil force, ohahahaaaaa, I will defy you I say!
: )
So far, so good. Only two purchases since Jan 1 (one a boxset, Haitink's RVW--but at a good price!). I don't have time to listen to more than a fraction of what I already own anyway. BTW, the Haitink is quite good. This morning after yoga Anne put on the Sarah Chang Lark Ascending. More full bodied and lush than Ms Hahn's spiritually seeking recording, but quite nice as well.
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 31, 2011, 08:19:48 AM
So far, so good. Only two purchases since Jan 1 (one a boxset, Haitink's RVW--but at a good price!). I don't have time to listen to more than a fraction of what I already own anyway. BTW, the Haitink is quite good. This morning after yoga Anne put on the Sarah Chang Lark Ascending. More full bodied and lush than Ms Hahn's spiritually seeking recording, but quite nice as well.
Glad you're enjoying Haitink's VW, David. You are now a member of the elite few (Karl, me ;D )
Thread duty: I've had a revelation about addiction; a revelation about an addict's self-awareness...or lack of. I've been so proud of myself. I resolved at the beginning of the year to drastically cut back purchases and, in my mind, I've been true to that resolve. It really seemed as though I'd only bought a handful. When I went to my picture gallery to confirm it (I scan and upload each CD cover) I was shocked to count 84 CDs since Jan 1 ...eighty-fracking-four! :(
Okay, I finally admit it...I need help.
Sarge
It's surprisingly (or even distressingly) easy! Which is why I thought, it isn't enough to say that when I buy, I'll keep myself to best practices . . . that I should designate a whole month of abstinence, as it were. It isn't absolute abstinence from here on, but it's still value added (and only partly by curbing outflows).
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 31, 2011, 08:47:58 AM
Glad you're enjoying Haitink's VW, David. You are now a member of the elite few (Karl, me ;D )
Thread duty: I've had a revelation about addiction; a revelation about an addict's self-awareness...or lack of. I've been so proud of myself. I resolved at the beginning of the year to drastically cut back purchases and, in my mind, I've been true to that resolve. It really seemed as though I'd only bought a handful. When I went to my picture gallery to confirm it (I scan and upload each CD cover) I was shocked to count 84 CDs since Jan 1 ...eighty-fracking-four! :(
Okay, I finally admit it...I need help.
Sarge
Wow, TextBook,... yes, that really is exactly the revelation any junkie or drunk has in their 'moment of clarity'. It's the same principle of More-Fantasy-Now,... haha, with an emphasis on the NOW!! Keep in mind that that part of the AA criteria (for whether you have a problem or not), is if your (fill in the blank behavior) is making your life 'unmanageable'. If, like some other Unmentionables around here ::) ;D, you lie to wife, or wotnot, over your Passion, thennnn 'you might be a redneck', as they say! But, if you're only shocked because of quantity, hey, you might just have a hearty appetite.
Of course, we know better! ;) ;D
My salvation: Stop buying things on the internet. Just get your cd's at the local record store. On internet you can get more cd's for the same money, but why always want more? Don´t support the commercial industry, it´s not healthy at all, support your local store.
At the record store you can get a cd immediately. When the record store doesn´t have a cd you want, you can always order it. Maybe you can make a deal with the record store about the price.
That´s how I am dealing with this at the moment.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 10:52:59 AM
My solvation: Stop buying things on the internet. Just get your cd's at the local record store.
Alas, there is no such thing any more in most places, especially for classical.
"solvation"?
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 11:15:55 AM
Alas, there is no such thing any more in most places, especially for classical.
How poor, how deprived!
You can still make a trip to the nearest store. Why not do that, instead of ordering behind your pc?
Henk
Quote from: Apollon on March 31, 2011, 11:18:34 AM
"solvation"?
Thanks, Karl. I meant "salvation" of course.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 11:21:21 AM
How poor, how deprived!
You can still make a trip to the nearest store. Why not do that, instead of ordering behind your pc?
Henk
Like I said, there is no such thing. Unless your definition of "nearest" includes an 8+ hour plane ride. Here in Chicago there are practically no stores left that carry a meaningful selection of classical CDs beyond "3 Tenors Greatest Hits" and "Classics for Relaxation". I'm not even exaggerating. Crow's Nest went out of business eons ago, the CSO closed its physical Symphony Store (which in any case stocked almost exclusively CSO recordings) due to failure to extend their lease at favorable rates, Borders (what's left of them) and B&N cut their classical selections drastically down to the aforementioned mass market cheese. I have no choice but to order online, apart from hoping that my local used CD store might occasionally stumble upon some gems. If I lived in Berlin it would be another matter. I'd revise my commute such as to strategically pass by Dussmann or Zweitausendeins every other day. ;D But in most places these days shopping in physical stores is simply not a viable option for the serious classical collector.
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 11:25:13 AM
Thanks, Karl. I meant "salvation" of course.
Henk
Well, at first that seems like the typo you made, Henk; but salvation doesn't work there. So, no, I still don't understand the remark at all.
Quote from: Apollon on March 31, 2011, 11:37:55 AM
Well, at first that seems like the typo you made, Henk; but salvation doesn't work there.
So, no, I still don't understand the remark at all.
Surely he meant solution.
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 11:30:58 AM
Like I said, there is no such thing. Unless your definition of "nearest" includes an 8+ hour plane ride. Here in Chicago there are practically no stores left that carry a meaningful selection of classical CDs beyond "3 Tenors Greatest Hits" and "Classics for Relaxation". I'm not even exaggerating. Crow's Nest went out of business eons ago, the CSO closed its physical Symphony Store (which in any case stocked almost exclusively CSO recordings) due to failure to extend their lease at favorable rates, Borders (what's left of them) and B&N cut their classical selections drastically down to the aforementioned mass market cheese. I have no choice but to order online, apart from hoping that my local used CD store might occasionally stumble upon some gems. If I lived in Berlin it would be another matter. I'd revise my commute such as to strategically pass by Dussmann or Zweitausendeins every other day. ;D But in most places these days shopping in physical stores is simply not a viable option for the serious classical collector.
Well, stop buying recordings on internet or at least limit it. Every time you do, local stores all around the world get into trouble deeper.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
Well, stop buying recordings on internet or at least limit it. Every time you do, local stores all around the world get into trouble deeper.
Which part of what I wrote are you having trouble understanding?! There
are no local stores anywhere near me left to kill. Indeed, my orders from amazon marketplace often come from "local stores" somewhere far away, which only manage to continue selling classical CDs because of the internet and things like amazon marketplace. It's the 21st century. Get with it already!
Quote from: Apollon on March 31, 2011, 11:37:55 AM
Well, at first that seems like the typo you made, Henk; but salvation doesn't work there.
So, no, I still don't understand the remark at all.
Don't understand you. I consider consuming at a local record store a nice thing to do, it's good to support that business. So "salvation" is the right word to choose here imo.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
Don't understand you. I consider consuming at a local record store a nice thing to do, it's good to support that business. So "salvation" is the right word to choose here imo.
Ah, yes, your salvation. I was forgetting your messianic streak, Henk ; )
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
Which part of what I wrote are you having trouble understanding?! There are no local stores anywhere near me left to kill. Indeed, my orders from amazon marketplace often come from "local stores" somewhere far away, which only manage to continue selling classical CDs because of the internet and things like amazon marketplace. It's the 21st century. Get with it already!
The stores you talk about must be stores which have to sell their recordings in order to pay their debts. It seems unlikely to me that they choose to operate in this way. They will always loose the competition with large companies like Amazon.
Besides I don't talk about the market for second handed recordings.
Henk
Quote from: Apollon on March 31, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
Ah, yes, your salvation. I was forgetting your messianic streak, Henk ; )
Well then I would have written "the salvation" of course. However my salvation can also appeal to others, that's why I share it here, do you understand?
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 11:59:37 AM
The stores you talk about must be stores which have to sell their recordings in order to pay their debts. It seems unlikely to me that they choose to operate in this way. They will always loose the competition with large companies like Amazon.
Besides I don't talk about second handed recordings.
You base this conjecture on what kind of inside industry knowledge? Look, the manager of a small record label happens to be a good friend of mine. Classical recordings are not a big money making business. Most CDs sell in the low 1000s of units. They are happy to sell this stuff any way they can. A few specialty stores for classical CDs survive only because the internet allows them access to a market larger than the local community which otherwise couldn't sustain such a business. Even amazon, arkivmusic, jpc etc. are only able to offer a large selection of classical CDs because the internet makes it possible to access classical music consumers all over the world. By your bizarre logic, I should stop buying through the internet altogether. If everybody followed that advice small classical CD outlets would go under completely, the large online retailers would drastically reduce their stock and some record labels would die or stop putting out new recordings. The internet is what makes this stuff survive. Most people buy MP3s these days. Audiophile CDs are a niche product. You can't effectively access a niche market unless you are located in an unusal metropolis exceptionally saturated with those niche consumers (such as Berlin), or else you have to have an internet retail outlet or use an intermediary service like amazon marketplace. You live in lala land.
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
Don't understand you. I consider consuming at a local record store a nice thing to do, it's good to support that business.
Henk,
MishaK's entire time zone has exactly one record store. It is called Joel's Classical Shop and it is in Texas. The distance from Misha's home city to his nearest classical record store is 1550 kilometres, LITERALLY exactly the same as the distance from Amsterdam to Barcelona. In other words, for Misha, the only options are buying recordings on the internet and driving the same distance as from Amsterdam to Barcelona.
By the way, I have bought things from Joel's Classical Shop many times and it is a wonderful place. But I was very lucky to live
only 325 kilometres away from it.
Quote from: Brian on March 31, 2011, 12:17:07 PM
In other words, for Misha, the only options are buying recordings on the internet and driving the same distance as from Amsterdam to Barcelona.
And driving that distance subject to American speed limits is a much more time consuming affair. ;)
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 12:19:12 PM
And driving that distance subject to American speed limits is a much more time consuming affair. ;)
Not to mention without the assorted driving enhancements to be found in Amsterdam!
Incidentally, time to come clean about my 2011 music spending.
- At the very start of January - the 5th? - I found a Harmonia Mundi label store in Girona, Spain and was so excited I spent 40 euros.
- I used an Amazon gift card to buy some music at no charge to myself.
- I bought the Charles Mackerras Martinu/Janacek box set from Supraphon, 22 pounds.
- I bought the Harmonia Mundi Art of the Violin/Lute boxes from the Super Cheap Bargains Thread, 10 pounds together.
Total music expenditures, Q1 2011: 67 pounds or US $109. That's about half my usual rate of expenditures.
I think that my Q2 spending will mostly go towards that new line of really, really cheap Sony box sets. Targeting the Szell/Haydn, Casadesus/Mozart, Levine/Brahms, Maazel/Sibelius, Wand/Bruckner and Abbado/Tchaikovsky, which all together only come out to 70 quid/$115ish.
I was very good last year. Bought literally almost nothing due to budgetary restrictions and sheer lack of time due to baby arrival. Went on a little bit of a binge over the last two months to compensate. ;D
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 12:33:42 PM
I was very good last year. Bought literally almost nothing due to budgetary restrictions and sheer lack of time due to baby arrival. Went on a little bit of a binge over the last two months to compensate. ;D
A new baby? Congratulations, papa! Your first?
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 31, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
A new baby? Congratulations, papa! Your first?
Yes. Thank you
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 01:06:54 PM
Yes. Thank you
Oh, my. Your world is about to change more than you can imagine! ;D 8) Boy or girl?
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 31, 2011, 01:10:01 PM
Oh, my. Your world is about to change more than you can imagine! ;D 8) Boy or girl?
Oh, I know. He will be a year old in a few days.
Quote from: MishaK on March 31, 2011, 01:11:12 PM
Oh, I know. He will be a year old in a few days.
Lovely. Take lots of mental snapshots now--they may come in handy around, say, 2025...? ;D
In pure defiance of you all I just ordered a lot.
Congrats MishaK BTW!
Quote from: The new erato on March 31, 2011, 02:36:23 PM
In pure defiance of you all I just ordered a lot.
Well, buy and order at a local store and your my man.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on March 31, 2011, 02:43:26 PM
Well, buy and order at a local store and your my man.
Henk
You start one and I will consider it. My nearest store is in Oslo 350 miles away, and they are terribly uncompetitive pricewise.
Quote from: The new erato on March 31, 2011, 02:36:23 PM
In pure defiance of you all I just ordered a lot.
Even a contrarian needs to produce results ; )
Because I tend not to make a new order until the old one has arrived, it is a healthy feeling to have an order held over. I have an order with HMV.jp which won't arrive until at least June!
But of course I am careful to apply this separately to each retailer.
I just placed an order with Amazon - well, I had to! I mean, I desperately need a decent can opener. And it's only good economics to put a few CDs and DVDs on top, to justify the shipping cost. Am I right?
Quote from: eyeresist on March 31, 2011, 05:03:11 PM
Because I tend not to make a new order until the old one has arrived, it is a healthy feeling to have an order held over. I have an order with HMV.jp which won't arrive until at least June!
But of course I am careful to apply this separately to each retailer.
I just placed an order with Amazon - well, I had to! I mean, I desperately need a decent can opener. And it's only good economics to put a few CDs and DVDs on top, to justify the shipping cost. Am I right?
You're a wise man.
Considering my "salvation": I keep doing both, order cd's at internet and buy at the local store, since both have advantages. I just hope the local store I buy records will survive. If not, well, there will be new stores started later again, for sure.
Henk
Quote from: The new erato on March 31, 2011, 02:45:32 PM
You start one and I will consider it. My nearest store is in Oslo 350 miles away, and they are terribly uncompetitive pricewise.
My store is just 4 km away. When it's on my way, I often visit it. Nice people, you can always listen to cd's in seperate little rooms, nice athmosphere. It's always a pleasure. Prices are reasonable. I just make a quick assessment about buying a record at the store or on internet. If I've made use of their service or want a record immediately I buy it there.
Henk
For the record: I went into the F.Y.E. on Washington Street just to browse.
I just browsed. Of my domain, I remain Master . . . .
Quote from: Henk on April 01, 2011, 12:56:15 AM
Considering my "salvation": I keep doing both, order cd's at internet and buy at the local store, since both have advantages. I just hope the local store I buy records will survive. If not, well, there will be new stores started later again, for sure.
Henk
Quote from: Henk on April 01, 2011, 01:04:28 AM
My store is just 4 km away. When it's on my way, I often visit it. Nice people, you can always listen to cd's in seperate little rooms, nice athmosphere. It's always a pleasure. Prices are reasonable. I just make a quick assessment about buying a record at the store or on internet. If I've made use of their service or want a record immediately I buy it there.
Henk
All very interesting; but way off-topic. (Just saying.)
Since Naxos is raising their prices next month, I'm trying to talk myself into buying all the things on my Naxos wishlist while they can still be had for $6ish. It is a fairly achievable wishlist, only 6-8 CDs, and a few of them are discs that fill major gaps in my collection with fantastic performances (Ravel L'enfant, Piazzolla Cautro estaciones). But it's taking a good bit of effort to convince myself that I should buy them. That has to be a good thing!
Quote from: Apollon on April 07, 2011, 11:17:16 AM
All very interesting; but way off-topic. (Just saying.)
Reminds me that it's been quite a while since I last saw
Rain Man. So far the only CD purchases this year have been the Haitink RVW symphonies (very nice!) and the Blomstedt/SKD Bruckner 7 (damaged in transit, MDT said they'll send another). On the other hand, we just bought new smartphones for the family, a new n band wireless router, a new professional photo printer (eek!), a new gas grill, and various sundries that make it a darned good thing that I'm resuming full-time work next week! We'll see how long my resistance lasts when steady paychecks (albeit
much smaller than before) start rolling in again!
Quote from: Apollon on March 18, 2011, 04:12:40 AM
April, what do you think? A good month to exercise fiscal discipline?
April holding intact!
Oh, and Dave: huzzah for steady paychecks!
As my eye fell upon the New Purchases thread, I idly wondered how long it may be before I pull any such trigger in the new year.
Just musing, you understand.
My resolution dissolved already on Jan 2, late evening, because I received a mail reminder that a disc I had been searching for some time was available at an affordable price used... but I'll try to keep it at that order for january 16. Because I again realized how much un/half-listened stuff I have on my shelves.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 05, 2016, 03:12:39 AM
As my eye fell upon the New Purchases thread, I idly wondered how long it may be before I pull any such trigger in the new year.
Just musing, you understand.
Time to buy some
Rakhmaninov. ;)
Quote from: Jo498 on January 05, 2016, 03:42:50 AM
My resolution dissolved already on Jan 2, late evening, because I received a mail reminder that a disc I had been searching for some was available at an affordable price used... but I'll try to keep it at that order for january 16. Because I again realized how much un/half-listened stuff I have on my shelves.
I understand such a priority!
Quote from: North Star on January 05, 2016, 03:44:16 AM
Time to buy some Rakhmaninov. ;)
Practically always a temptation 0:)
I have found a vaccination containing small amounts of CD's taken regularly through the mail the best precaution against a full-blown CDCDCD.
:)
Quote from: North Star on January 05, 2016, 03:50:48 AM
I have found a vaccination containing small amounts of CD's taken regularly through the mail the best precaution against a full-blown CDCDCD.
Regular and small amounts... That's what I claim as well. And compared to what I witness others buying it actually works but it is still a steady trickle that adds up to quite a few discs over time.
Quote from: North Star on January 05, 2016, 03:50:48 AM
I have found a vaccination containing small amounts of CD's taken regularly through the mail the best precaution against a full-blown CDCDCD.
I made this discovery too. Fortunately my wife won a wooden post-box thing in a raffle and it stands outside the house. Therefore the 'post' does not now come directly through the letter box and I am usually (but not always :o) able to creep round to the post box first. >:D
I have no problem buying CDs....whenever I look at the catalogues of local shops I always remind myself to buy something which I will be most satisfied with. Usually I can listen to music for free on the radio, streaming on the Internet, borrowing from friends or from the library etc, so buying something is fairly uncommon when I can listen to soooo much music for free. In the end, I prefer buying scores and sheet music!
These days, they have this new stuff called "vinyl". Crazy kids.
Quote from: Super Blood Moon on January 08, 2016, 01:05:23 PM
These days, they have this new stuff called "vinyl". Crazy kids.
I spent a lotta money on vinyl last year ::)
I feel like slowing down on purchases now. Last year I bought quite a many (for me, not Harry ;D ) classical CDs. I have been into classical music more intensively than for over a decade. Non-classical side has been quiet: Edgar Froese is no more and pop music has gone down the drain after 2013 as I predicted. So it has been a good time to explore classical music. However, I need to listen to more what I already have. With classical music purchases get out of hand so easily... :-\
Quote from: 71 dB on February 21, 2016, 01:18:18 AM
..... and pop music has gone down the drain after 2013 1973 as I predicted.
Fixed that for you, the point being that as you age, pop music always goes down the drain. Though I admit there are stuff after 73 that's good, but that's more for demonstrating how bad most of the other stuff is. ;)
Quote from: The new erato on February 21, 2016, 01:22:07 AM
Fixed that for you, the point being that as you age, pop music always goes down the drain. Though I admit there are stuff after 73 that's good, but that's more for demonstrating how bad most of the other stuff is. ;)
Well, pop music might have gone downhill after 1973 or whatever, but it peaked miraculously around 2011-2012.