The Dating Thread

[Ken B]

Sex without love is meaningless IMHO.

Yes but as meaningless experiences go, it's one of the best.

(Stolen from Woody Allen)

[Henk]

If a girl is sexy and behaves sexy (tough), I love her.

Maybe because I want to have so many ones, I get none. That's the deal.

[snyprrr]

Well, snyprrr, I don't know what to say other than best of luck in an ill-intended attempt to earn back your 'manhood' or whatever that means. Personally, if I'm not going to be myself, I would rather not be anyone. I'm looking for something a lot more than just sex. Sex without love is meaningless IMHO.

Don't you get it? You WILL Love the girl who finally gives you sex!! See how that works?

As much as I see this girl Damaged Goods, and couldn't seriously see putting up with her dementia, I do give her enormous props for being the ONE girl to "take one for the team". Of course, she had naught to lose, but, still, I consider it somewhat of a 'Sacrifice'. That's all i'm seeking, Sacrifice, not Sex (though, it appears, that Sex IS the sacrifice for women, sooo...). You have to give me something of value, like i gave you something of value (my "feelings", cause, that's what they want, your soul). If kissing is a big deal to me, but not her, then, in kssing her, you have gained no Sacrifice: she'll kiss "anyone". BUT, if her kiss is Sacred, just getting her kiss means everything. So...

Who Here Will Admit to Being A Momma's Boy? Eh?

I certainly qualify. What I mean, John, is that, maybe, some of us manly men have grown up in broken/modern families and were really only given a certain, flawed outlook on the sexes (who here remembers the battle of the sexes in the '50s?), so, I'm saying that maybe many men have been brought up with a Feminized way of looking at "Love".

Sex isn't Love to the rake,... BUT, to schlubs like US... yes, US... Sex IS Love, because the girl who finally GIVES you the sex you so heartily crave, you will NO DOUBT LOOOOOOOOOVE her. No? See my point, rock star sex junkie? (you're NOT, right? meaning, you can't just pick up cooter like it was a Snickers wrapper on the sidewalk, RIGHT??? Sooo,... have you 'loved' all the girls you've had? How many?... In other words, if getting Sex is like the Holy Grail of tasks, then, the girl (even if she's a hooker you fall in love with) who finally does, ACTUALLY, have sex with you, well, wow, she must be really something, eh? So, ergo, you WILL love her.

Eh?

THE GIRL will not fuck the boy until she trusts him...

THE BOY will not trust the girl until he fucks her.

truth hurts


See, Damaged Goods Girl, for all her tremendous faults, knows at least Something about the Pain of Man, which Society Girl seems oblivious to (or actively seeks to foster).


HOW DOES THE DONG GO?? "IF YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE..."

[ibanezmonster]

See, I was right! Snyprrr is actually starting to calm down... you can tell because his post actually contains paragraphs and the smileys are at the very end.

[jochanaan]

snyprr, I know you're on Cloud Nine (or whichever) right now, but as a friend I have to say this: What you've got now is not love.  It's just a temporarily fulfilled craving.  Probably the same for her.  Don't make more of this than there is--or if you do, be prepared for an intense time of personal growth.

[Ken B]

-or if you do, be prepared for an intense time of personal growth.

Ha! Well put!

[Henk]

I agree with snyprrr in so far that normal, "civilized" ways of looking to and practizing sex, isn't my kind also. I have my own kind of sexuality. 0:)

[Henk]

Don't you get it? You WILL Love the girl who finally gives you sex!! See how that works?

As much as I see this girl Damaged Goods, and couldn't seriously see putting up with her dementia, I do give her enormous props for being the ONE girl to "take one for the team". Of course, she had naught to lose, but, still, I consider it somewhat of a 'Sacrifice'. That's all i'm seeking, Sacrifice, not Sex (though, it appears, that Sex IS the sacrifice for women, sooo...). You have to give me something of value, like i gave you something of value (my "feelings", cause, that's what they want, your soul). If kissing is a big deal to me, but not her, then, in kssing her, you have gained no Sacrifice: she'll kiss "anyone". BUT, if her kiss is Sacred, just getting her kiss means everything. So...

Who Here Will Admit to Being A Momma's Boy? Eh?

I certainly qualify. What I mean, John, is that, maybe, some of us manly men have grown up in broken/modern families and were really only given a certain, flawed outlook on the sexes (who here remembers the battle of the sexes in the '50s?), so, I'm saying that maybe many men have been brought up with a Feminized way of looking at "Love".

Sex isn't Love to the rake,... BUT, to schlubs like US... yes, US... Sex IS Love, because "the girl who finally GIVES you the sex you so heartily crave, you will NO DOUBT LOOOOOOOOOVE her." No? See my point, rock star sex junkie? (you're NOT, right? meaning, you can't just pick up cooter like it was a Snickers wrapper on the sidewalk, RIGHT??? Sooo,... have you 'loved' all the girls you've had? How many?... In other words, if getting Sex is like the Holy Grail of tasks, then, the girl (even if she's a hooker you fall in love with) who finally does, ACTUALLY, have sex with you, well, wow, she must be really something, eh? So, ergo, you WILL love her.

Eh?

THE GIRL will not fuck the boy until she trusts him...

THE BOY will not trust the girl until he fucks her.

truth hurts


See, Damaged Goods Girl, for all her tremendous faults, knows at least Something about the Pain of Man, which Society Girl seems oblivious to (or actively seeks to foster).


HOW DOES THE DONG GO?? "IF YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE..."

I think Greg and MI don't agree with this, because they will consider themselves hopeless. What about you?

I think you should be attracted to a girl, chemically, already before having sex. Good sex is the reward.

[Henk]

THE GIRL will not fuck the boy until she trusts him...

THE BOY will not trust the girl until he fucks her.

truth hurts

Nice speaking. The most important thing however is sexual tension, that has little to do with someting more obvious as trust. A girl wants to feel safety, but that's only a precondition.

[ibanezmonster]

I think you should be attracted to a girl, chemically already before having sex.

That's what I agree with 100%.

Post-high school, although I've expressed interest in 3 different girls, I've had 4 different girls express interest in me, but just couldn't bring myself to date them because I just wasn't interested in them. I wouldn't say that they are utterly physically unattractive, but some people just don't catch your eye or have anything especially captivating about their personality to want to spend time and money dating them. And since you would never fantasize about them, why would you do it in real life? It just doesn't seem worth it if even the thought of kissing them just makes you feel uncomfortable.

IMO if snyprrr feels like it's some sort of victory and is satisfied/enjoyed it, that's fine and there's nothing else to say... but for me, I just couldn't do it if someone else was not attractive enough on the inside and outside.

[Karl Henning]

THE BOY will not trust the girl until [sexual congress].

truth hurts

Truth is, that is one sorry boy.

[Henk]

That's what I agree with 100%.

Post-high school, although I've expressed interest in 3 different girls, I've had 4 different girls express interest in me, but just couldn't bring myself to date them because I just wasn't interested in them. I wouldn't say that they are utterly physically unattractive, but some people just don't catch your eye or have anything especially captivating about their personality to want to spend time and money dating them. And since you would never fantasize about them, why would you do it in real life? It just doesn't seem worth it if even the thought of kissing them just makes you feel uncomfortable.

IMO if snyprrr feels like it's some sort of victory and is satisfied/enjoyed it, that's fine and there's nothing else to say... but for me, I just couldn't do it if someone else was not attractive enough on the inside and outside.

Good to have some high standards, instead of fucking what you can get. Fully agree . However I see myself loving a girl as well if she is handsome and just very sweet and kind. Also this I find attractive. It's mainly the man who should make sex good, lead the girl.

[Henk]

Listen to some Prince. I dig his music very much.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/sep/02/listen-prince-u-know-whitecaps-3rd-eye-girl

[Henk]

Who here likes to cunnilingus (what a strange word in English)? I consider men who don't like this is not very virile. However this is just my opinion.

Some interesting positions :
Woman on top
Woman sitting on man's shoulder against a wall.
Woman sitting on a chair.

[Henk]

Good to have some high standards, instead of fucking what you can get. Fully agree . However I see myself loving a girl as well if she is handsome and just very sweet and kind. Also this I find attractive. It's mainly the man who should make sex good, lead the girl.

To add: A girl that is not very sexy, but sweet for instance, could actually be very wild or passionate in bed. You can't say on forehand, that's what's makes it unpredictable and interesting.

[snyprrr]

snyprr, I know you're on Cloud Nine (or whichever) right now, but as a friend I have to say this: What you've got now is not love.  It's just a temporarily fulfilled craving.  Probably the same for her.  Don't make more of this than there is--or if you do, be prepared for an intense time of personal growth.

No, trust me, it was most definitely nothing special.

Keep in mind, I was over the moon trying to get a KISS out of that one,... and no, there's weren't any heart palpitations with this one,...


I actually ran into the shunned one last night, talking to my carribean(?sp) lady friend (who's been there the whole time seeing what's been going on). I would have just walked out without any of them seeing me, but, I haaaad to make my presence known, so I tapped my black friend on the shoulder (so of course they all saw) and walked away. I came back a few hours later- the B was gone, but my black friend was still there, and she said the B was just acting totally clueless about the whole thing (which she is NOT)- but the B's new guy (the guy I was "dismissed" in front of Dec.1) was there, and I caught how B had lied to him about something frivolous- the sociopathy coming out.

Anyway- I am still deeply hurt by this... floozy!! I really want to write a nice long email, getting all of it out- just for me- don't want a reply,... what do you think? Technically, I'm supposed to just drop it- I like to make sure I've said my peace.

anyhoo...




fuuu... kinda feeling like I got a dirty diaper on... the shat upon feeling... I AM struggling with forgiveness vs revenge (though, it is His job, not mine)...








CAN I TELL YOU--

This B girl... after I'd met her and things had been heating up (Nov.), I realized what was happening and told her the 'Scorioin and the Turtle' story. At the end she said, "So, I'm the turtle, right?" mmm








I did want to reply to Greg and MI and all,... I do need my support group,... but I'm feeling burdoned by my weakness this morn,... the Good Book says not to give "your strength unto women", which is exactly what I've done- when you do this you get nothing in return...

when I saw her last night, from behind, recognized the hair,... I couldn't even look at her. I shot the guy a furtive glance (didn't recog me)... I'm not the kind to throw people away, out of hand, but here I must, and it does hurt, even if this woman is by no means worth it.

I'm just a rambly mess this morning




Can we talk penis size? What's the first thing that pops into your mind? uh boy ...

[Ken B]

Can we talk penis size? What's the first thing that pops into your mind? uh boy ...

An indulgent pity for the rest of you. 

[snyprrr]

oh, and btw- the woman I had fiddle faddle with was a... jew... whoop!, there goes my BSD!! be sure to tell Todd or Brian or whomever it is who's always railing me in the zziioo dept.- for those of you who were wondering if my congress was good for yissyrel or not... oy vey indeed...

An indulgent pity for the rest of you. 

haha, you answered too quickly!!- hmmm,... so?


...waiting...


My thoughts are that... well,... you're right,... nevermind

[snyprrr]

I see Karl, and sarge, and Henk all lurking in the wings,... wink wink!!

[Ken B]

I see Karl, and sarge, ... lurking in the wings,... wink wink!!

The last thing Elgar fans want is to get into a discussion of penis size.